suspension lift kit help - Page 2

FredTJ · 05-11-2008, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LTrunner

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ANY touqre converter sucks in comparison to a clucth
on average 20% of HP is lost at an auto's TC...where as a manual it's about 5-10% at the clucth

Just coming from someone who doesn't know how to drive an auto offroad.

Please post up some references to your numbers so that we all know that you aren't simply buying bad rope.

Fred

elripster · 05-11-2008, 04:41 PM

Autos are nice in rocks and also in sand. Often on a dune, you can shift a manual without losing too much speed. An auto, however, you can.

I had a stick and when I think about going back, then needing dual cases, drive shafts.... or just run an auto and be done with it, the auto wins. sure it sucks up power to operate but it's worth it. The wife likes it too which makes it easier to go wheeling when she wants to go as bad as youdo.

You do need to two foot with the auto which is not hard to learn.

Frank

FredTJ · 05-11-2008, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elripster

Autos are nice in rocks and also in sand. Often on a dune, you can shift a manual without losing too much speed. An auto, however, you can.

I had a stick and when I think about going back, then needing dual cases, drive shafts.... or just run an auto and be done with it, the auto wins. sure it sucks up power to operate but it's worth it. The wife likes it too which makes it easier to go wheeling when she wants to go as bad as youdo.

You do need to two foot with the auto which is not hard to learn.

Frank

Learning to use two feet with the auto is much easier to learn than learning to use the three feet that you need with a manual

Fred

sutsch13 · 05-11-2008, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredTJ

Hopefully you changes shocks also, else you're giving up some articulation.
Additionally the rear trackbar would require some tending to, along with the LSPV.

Fred

ya im going to soon ... i still have 4 months till i get my license but i still occasionally drive it.

LTrunner · 05-12-2008, 02:38 PM

i 2 foot my auto all the time and it still sucks...the fact that the torque converter sucks and is slipping dosen't help...it really dosen't matter what auto you have with big tires and rock crawling soon your TC WILL SLIP...then it's all down hill...also on a side note hot haveing to worry about the trans over heating is good

cocoslow · 05-12-2008, 04:09 PM

I've driven a 5 speed(86) and auto(92) and the auto is far better on the trail and on the freeway.

Now back to the original topic.

I have a 92 4Runner with Eibach springs in the rear and Downey torsion bars resulting in 1.5"-2.0" of lift over stock(cost about $250). With 32s and no sway bars I get a little rubbing at all four corners in extreme situations. Replacing the stock rear bumper and tow bar with a Marlin rear bumper lifted the rear an additional quarter inch.

It is my understanding that the OME springs, torsions and shocks with rear spacers and ball joint spacers will allow 33s with little or no rubbing.

05-11-2008, 04:41 PM	#27 (permalink)
elripster Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,207	Autos are nice in rocks and also in sand. Often on a dune, you can shift a manual without losing too much speed. An auto, however, you can. I had a stick and when I think about going back, then needing dual cases, drive shafts.... or just run an auto and be done with it, the auto wins. sure it sucks up power to operate but it's worth it. The wife likes it too which makes it easier to go wheeling when she wants to go as bad as youdo. You do need to two foot with the auto which is not hard to learn. Frank __________________ 1994 4runner, 3.0, auto, 5.71's, Truetrac (rear), 33's, BJ spacers, Coil spacers, air shocks, D-ring anchors, 4Crawler F/R swaybar discos, Marlin rear bumper. www.sdori.com

05-12-2008, 02:38 PM	#30 (permalink)
LTrunner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: spfld, MA Posts: 226	i 2 foot my auto all the time and it still sucks...the fact that the torque converter sucks and is slipping dosen't help...it really dosen't matter what auto you have with big tires and rock crawling soon your TC WILL SLIP...then it's all down hill...also on a side note hot haveing to worry about the trans over heating is good __________________ 89 4runner 3.0L, 5spd swaped like what ya see...check my build http://www.yotatech.com/f116/my-very...runner-143762/ Don't Follow me, you won't make it "Wheeling the piss out of it" AND "DD"ing it since 2005

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05-12-2008, 04:09 PM	#31 (permalink)
cocoslow Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 16	I've driven a 5 speed(86) and auto(92) and the auto is far better on the trail and on the freeway. Now back to the original topic. I have a 92 4Runner with Eibach springs in the rear and Downey torsion bars resulting in 1.5"-2.0" of lift over stock(cost about $250). With 32s and no sway bars I get a little rubbing at all four corners in extreme situations. Replacing the stock rear bumper and tow bar with a Marlin rear bumper lifted the rear an additional quarter inch. It is my understanding that the OME springs, torsions and shocks with rear spacers and ball joint spacers will allow 33s with little or no rubbing.