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Old 10-02-2013, 07:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Napa Silver Filter - bad move?

I just purchased a 1988 truck, 22r engine with 135,000 miles on it. I performed the first oil change two days ago with the intention to use a Napa Gold filter 1348. They were out of stock so I went with the Napa Silver 31348. The Napa employee told me that the 31348 does have the anti-drain back valve. I intend to use Toyota OEM filters in the future and will have some this week. So-is the Napa Silver filter "good enough" or should I replace it right away? Because of the location of the oil filter on a 22r, can I just spin off the Napa and replace it with the OEM filter without draining the oil?
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I really would not get that worried unless you plan to not change your oil for like 50,000 miles .

I know people that go to Jiffy Lube and use those cheap filters and make out ok except for the oil drain plugs falling out or being stripped.
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Thanks wyoming9. I am probably overly concerned indeed, but being a new to these trucks I wanted to play it safe. The owners manual states oil change intervals around 10,000 miles, I'll shoot for between 3,000 and 4,000 miles and do my best to go easy on the drain plug threads!
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The people at quicky oil changes use impacts to remove plugs and get them cross threaded going back in.
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I run the K&N filters on my truck. They seem to be really good. I also run Rotella 15/40 oil. I change fluids between 3&4 thousand miles... I can't say that I've ever had a issue.
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SAE - Please search first and ask questions on previous threads or start a new thread if you can't find an answer... And since you're a newbie and might not know -- you have to use google search: "site:yotatech.com search words", no quotes in google search bar.

So as to not beat a dead horse,
go here and read up: http://www.yotatech.com/f116/what-ty.../#post52123675
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The people at quicky oil changes use impacts to remove plugs and get them cross threaded going back in.
I have to disagree as I work at a quick lube and we do not use impact guns to remove oil plugs
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Thanks for the further replies, I will be gentle to dead horses along the way.
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SAE - Please search first and ask questions on previous threads or start a new thread if you can't find an answer... And since you're a newbie and might not know -- you have to use google search: "site:yotatech.com search words", no quotes in google search bar.

So as to not beat a dead horse,
go here and read up: http://www.yotatech.com/f116/what-ty.../#post52123675
Are you serious...

You calling another person a newb. Kinda like the pot calling the kettle black.
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You're such a newb, Snob. Dontcha know that if you have 600 post, you're considered a Yotatech Master Technician? Duh...

And since we have 1,500 plus posts, we are put out to pasture....
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Wait, so the number of posts a person has DOESN'T correlate with the amount of knowledge they have?!





I still consider myself a noob
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Absolutely I'm a newbie on these forums for about 6 months and to Toyota pickups for nearly two years now, and was offering another friendly advice... IMO, there's a difference between being brand new and a participant for a few months. And prior to posting anything on these boards I was reading here and other forums for about a year before signing up, realizing what it takes to avoid angering the cranks... Throughout I've been actively participating and learning whatever I can -- not something that should be ragged on IMO.
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Really, it doesn't matter how long you've been around or worked on these trucks. Having the all high and mighty attitude with the old adage "search you newb"...is so cliche.

I've never seen a question asked about NAPA silver oil filters...has anyone else? I was kinda curious myself.
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I will always be a newbie...

You will never know it all and you will never know HOW to do it all...

I am always grateful for others knowledge. Except if its wrong knowledge... Then I don't want it.
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Really, it doesn't matter how long you've been around or worked on these trucks. Having the all high and mighty attitude with the old adage "search you newb"...is so cliche.

I've never seen a question asked about NAPA silver oil filters...has anyone else? I was kinda curious myself.
Snobbs -- not at all what I wrote or intended to communicate. I made a request. Offered advice, and included graphics, indicating humor. I also pointed him in the right direction. And didn't realize a "newbie" was slanderous...

Not all that different from your post immediately preceding mine in that link I provided...

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Everyone is bored with this topic. Been beat to death a million times.

Better luck searching and reading prior post than adding another mind numbing thread.

This is this months installment of oil and filter talk...took 2 seconds to find.
http://www.yotatech.com/f120/napa-si...-22-re-272885/
OP - Apologies if I offended. Not my intent. Napa Silver/ProSelect are made by Wix and are their lowest end product. Napa Gold are equivalent to the Wix branded filters in the reviews in previous links. General consensus reading blogs, especially Bob's, on Napa Silver appears to be that they're better Fram -- not a high bar -- but component review below might indicate otherwise... Here's some reading:

http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/old_filters.shtml
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...Number=2182704

Sorry to derail your thread. I won't be coming back to or adding anything further to this thread.
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I've never seen a question asked about NAPA silver oil filters...has anyone else? I was kinda curious myself.
A quick Google search yielded this info: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/o...silver-vs.html

Whenever I go to Napa to get filters, the counter guy only gives me the choice of the Napa Gold. I think the first time, I asked if there were any other choices and what the price difference was. I figure for $4 or so extra every 3000 miles, you might as well get the Gold. It's not going to break the bank

EDIT: OP, I wouldn't say it's a bad move. At least you didn't buy a Fram filter
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Snobbs -- not at all what I wrote or intended to communicate. I made a request. Offered advice, and included graphics, indicating humor. I also pointed him in the right direction. And didn't realize a "newbie" was slanderous...

Not all that different from your post immediately preceding mine in that link I provided...



OP - Apologies if I offended. Not my intent. Napa Silver/ProSelect are made by Wix and are their lowest end product. Napa Gold are equivalent to the Wix branded filters in the reviews in previous links. General consensus reading blogs, especially Bob's, on Napa Silver appears to be that they're better Fram -- not a high bar -- but component review below might indicate otherwise... Here's some reading:

http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/old_filters.shtml
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...Number=2182704

Sorry to derail your thread. I won't be coming back to or adding anything further to this thread.
Yea, but it was posted in the newbie section.
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I thought it was a pretty good question myself .

It was not what is the best filter etc etc .

It was did I really screw up here kinda like the morning after your wedding !!!

So Wolf28 You can tell me that every quick oil change shop in the World is the same as yours?? I can only go from what I have seen in person .

I can only hope it was the way your statement was laid out.
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Thanks for all the input folks. I actually had read some of the links provided before posting my question, but did not see any information on the forum regarding the Napa Silver anywhere. I just wanted to play it safe and seek some advice rather than make a naive mistake. I really appreciate the knowledge and experience on the forum- it will help me take on repairs and maintenance that I would not have attempted otherwise. Thanks again.
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Napa gold = made by Wix

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both are fine choices. stay away from from!

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