87 4runner would like to SAS

874runner · 04-19-2008, 02:13 AM

Hey guys im new here. I own a 87 4runner with 3" body and 33's my question is i want to do a SAS on it and take off the body lift. but add a 4" suspension lift is it cheaper for the lift kit if i have a SAS? also what year toyota should i get the axle out of? and is there any tutorials on how to do it? any info helps! thanks.

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**waskillywabbit** · 04-19-2008, 06:52 AM

Welcome to Yotatech.

You need to do a LOT of reading and research because your questions clearly demonstrate you have no clue what you are asking.

A solid axle swap typically involves lifting the vehicle in order to do the swap. Most kits are 3-5".

Typically the 79-85 solid front axle is used.

Tutorials? Search the Toyota online forums and

It has been done just a few times before.

Check out our website for ideas on SAS kits, rear lifts and look at the "tech info" page for SAS installation instructions.

Go read this - all of it!
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459180

**Lysmachia** · 04-20-2008, 01:21 AM

Yes welcome. We moved your post due to the nature of your post. When you do a little more research and search YotaTech or Google, and have more specific questions, then you can post under your model/year...

874runner · 04-21-2008, 01:53 AM

ok thanks. sorry im new

bigarms23 · 04-21-2008, 03:56 PM

all you need is a 4inch sas kit from marlin crawler and an 83 to 85 toyota front axle gears and rebuild the front axle

bigt · 04-21-2008, 04:00 PM

yeah.. i was looking into a s.a.s too but its still a little beyond me yet... first im going locked rear then well see how far i can go with that and a winch... you need a solid axle from a 83-85 toyota truck. get a kit from a company like wab fab or trailgear or marlin and you can choose the 4 inch kits .. its around 1200... if you have a first gen runner you have leafs in the rear and can get some new leafs and coils to get the lift you need. if its a newer runner you need a kit like the s.a.s

gotta run

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**waskillywabbit** · 04-21-2008, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigarms23

all you need is a 4inch sas kit from marlin crawler and an 83 to 85 toyota front axle gears and rebuild the front axle

Not quite...and front drive shaft work and then the front SAS is done.

What about the rear? Lockers? Gears? Armor? The list goes on and on and on.

ocdropzone · 04-21-2008, 04:14 PM

welcome to an addicting hobby...I feel an SAS conversion is a good route to go, but there are some folks,TC, for instance that can wheel some very difficult places with IFS because he knows how to drive.

This all Toyota Search Engine might give you another source. It hits over 50 Toyota Technical sources...

like Wabbit said, keep reading and searching. You will find that you will be abe to answer many questions you have. Of course some new ones are gonna come up

bigarms23 · 04-24-2008, 04:03 PM

I could add add a set of longtravel je reel driveshafts but you can do an sas without a front friveshaft but you won't be able to use the 4wd

sambeano420 · 04-24-2008, 04:17 PM

Hi, Iam new here too, but I will throw in an answer. 84 and 85 front axles are best, they were beefed more from the factory, but would add the weld on armor and ball braces and longfields. Also recommend going to 63" 3/4 ton Chevy springs in the rear, with the bottom 2 leaves taken out. did it to a buddys 85 and it flexes incredibly.

874runner · 04-26-2008, 10:09 PM

Well thanks for all the input guys. Im not sure if im built up to the SAS yet i want to do it but need to read further it looks like. Besides ive only had the truck not even a year yet lol. So far it wheels very nicely the way it is but maybe i should do gears and lock the rear first?

Spence1016 · 04-26-2008, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 874runner

So far it wheels very nicely the way it is but maybe i should do gears and lock the rear first?

that would be the best place to start, there are very few places you can get with a sas that you cant with ifs

874runner · 04-26-2008, 10:22 PM

well im sort of new to wheeling as well but so far every terrain and/or trail ive taken it down its never had a problem couple took a few tries but it made it every time.

04-19-2008, 06:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,559	Welcome to Yotatech. You need to do a LOT of reading and research because your questions clearly demonstrate you have no clue what you are asking. A solid axle swap typically involves lifting the vehicle in order to do the swap. Most kits are 3-5". Typically the 79-85 solid front axle is used. Tutorials? Search the Toyota online forums and It has been done just a few times before. Check out our website for ideas on SAS kits, rear lifts and look at the "tech info" page for SAS installation instructions. Go read this - all of it! http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459180 __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale Last edited by waskillywabbit; 04-20-2008 at 06:56 AM.

04-21-2008, 03:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
bigarms23 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: mountains of truckee ca Posts: 1,010	all you need is a 4inch sas kit from marlin crawler and an 83 to 85 toyota front axle gears and rebuild the front axle __________________ 1988sr5 4.3v6 4runner with chevy axles 513 gears dual cases overall 300to1 ratio 36mtzs 5inch lift detroits 1972 stepside jimmy d44/d70 425hp 1995 green range rover

04-21-2008, 04:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
bigt Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: chippawa niagara falls ontario Posts: 3,201	yeah.. i was looking into a s.a.s too but its still a little beyond me yet... first im going locked rear then well see how far i can go with that and a winch... you need a solid axle from a 83-85 toyota truck. get a kit from a company like wab fab or trailgear or marlin and you can choose the 4 inch kits .. its around 1200... if you have a first gen runner you have leafs in the rear and can get some new leafs and coils to get the lift you need. if its a newer runner you need a kit like the s.a.s gotta run search is your friend and so am I welcome to yt __________________ 1991 HILUX SURF SSR-X turbo diesel right hand drive toyota imported in 2005 from japan, 130,000 km 31 bfg a/t auto current build 1987 LWB suzuki samurai. turning 2 into one.. yota axles welded front to back, yota springs , ifs steering box,, this bad boy will not only eat jeeps but toyotas aswell \m/

04-21-2008, 04:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
ocdropzone Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR Posts: 4,720	welcome to an addicting hobby...I feel an SAS conversion is a good route to go, but there are some folks,TC, for instance that can wheel some very difficult places with IFS because he knows how to drive. This all Toyota Search Engine might give you another source. It hits over 50 Toyota Technical sources... like Wabbit said, keep reading and searching. You will find that you will be abe to answer many questions you have. Of course some new ones are gonna come up __________________ ~Robb '81 Trekker The B4Runner Build TREKKER Forum Mini FAQ/Misc Ideas Thread TRY THESE SEARCH LINKS GOOGLE FOR TOYOTA WEBSITES LINK TO ONLINE FACTORY SERVICE MANUALS Drive a real 1st Gen Wheel Responsibly, Don't Screw It Up for Others Last edited by ocdropzone; 04-21-2008 at 04:15 PM. Reason: fix linky thingamachigger

04-24-2008, 04:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
bigarms23 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: mountains of truckee ca Posts: 1,010	I could add add a set of longtravel je reel driveshafts but you can do an sas without a front friveshaft but you won't be able to use the 4wd __________________ 1988sr5 4.3v6 4runner with chevy axles 513 gears dual cases overall 300to1 ratio 36mtzs 5inch lift detroits 1972 stepside jimmy d44/d70 425hp 1995 green range rover

04-21-2008, 01:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
874runner Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 78	ok thanks. sorry im new

04-24-2008, 04:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
sambeano420 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Logan,UT Posts: 10	Hi, Iam new here too, but I will throw in an answer. 84 and 85 front axles are best, they were beefed more from the factory, but would add the weld on armor and ball braces and longfields. Also recommend going to 63" 3/4 ton Chevy springs in the rear, with the bottom 2 leaves taken out. did it to a buddys 85 and it flexes incredibly.

04-26-2008, 10:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
874runner Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 78	Well thanks for all the input guys. Im not sure if im built up to the SAS yet i want to do it but need to read further it looks like. Besides ive only had the truck not even a year yet lol. So far it wheels very nicely the way it is but maybe i should do gears and lock the rear first?

04-26-2008, 10:22 PM	#13 (permalink)
874runner Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 78	well im sort of new to wheeling as well but so far every terrain and/or trail ive taken it down its never had a problem couple took a few tries but it made it every time.

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