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Old 01-06-2010, 07:06 PM   #1
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I got lockers in the front of the truck and when i went mudding for a good bit the other day i found out when i got stuck that only one back tire was turing and the other side wasn't. where can i get solid axle or can i put locking hubs on the rearend????
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get a rear locker?
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where at is it the same as i would have on the front?
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lol. You already have solid axles front and rear if its an '85. The front locking hubs are not differential lockers. They lock the wheels/hubs to the axles so you can use 4wd. Get a rear differential locker to prevent the situation you encountered.
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the frond is not SAS the rear is and what happen when i went mudding i got stuck for the first time and all 3 tires was spining but one so i knew i had to get locking hubs or get something i not sure i never had to do something like this so help me please?
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i never heard of a rear SAS i thought they all were. i just have 1 question for you. are you running IFS in the rear of you truck lol
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1985 was the last year for the solid front axle (SFA), factory, for both p/us and 4runners. later years have Independent Front Suspension (IFS) and a lot of people do a Solid Axle Swap (SAS) on their IFS rigs. No Toyota p/u or 4runner in the N/A market has come with Independent Rear Suspension (IRS) so your rear could not have been SAS'ed, its just a Solid Rear Axle (SRA) from the factory.

Now. is your rig an '85 or '86 model year. If it has IFS but says "made xx-xx-1985" it is an '86 MODEL YEAR but it was MADE in 1985. If its an '86 model year it could have had an SAS done to it.

You have manual locking HUBS, not a manual locking DIFFERENTIAL. like I said, manual locking hubs only allow power to be supplied to the front wheels. You DO NOT want manual locking hubs on your rear. Pointless and possibly disasterous.

What you DO want is a LOCKING DIFFERENTIAL, which will supply even power to both wheels of the axle in which the locked differential resides. There are many options: Weld the spider gears or get a spool. Automatic locker. Limited slip. ARB air locker or Toyota Electric locker.
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I got lockers in the front of the truck and when i went mudding for a good bit the other day i found out when i got stuck that only one back tire was turing and the other side wasn't. where can i get solid axle or can i put locking hubs on the rearend????
When you say "lockers in the front" what are you referring to? If you are talking about the locking front hubs, then those are just that, locking front hubs. They simply lock the front wheel to the axle shaft. A real differential locker, which of course goes in the differential in the middle of the front axle, is what will enable both front wheels to turn at the same speed. You should have a solid front axle on that truck, assuming that it is a 4WD pickup.

And you can put a locking differential in the rear axle. Lots of options out there, Detroit locker, Aussie locker, ARB air locker, factory electric locker, etc. And you can put in a full floating rear axle kit with manual locking hubs, Front Range Offroad makes a kit to do this.
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wells heres a semi dumb question can u still run a spooled rear on the road even tho they say not to??
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wells heres a semi dumb question can u still run a spooled rear on the road even tho they say not to??
Big thread on the Offroad Tech section all about that:
- http://www.yotatech.com/f31/truth-ab...t=truth+spools
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wells heres a semi dumb question can u still run a spooled rear on the road even tho they say not to??
you can run whatever you want in the rear end.
they don't recommend a spool on a daily driver due to severe tire wear.
if you don't mind spending money on tires...go for it
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wells heres a semi dumb question can u still run a spooled rear on the road even tho they say not to??
Well yes you can...you can also jump out of a plane without a parachute but it's not recommended.
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the frond is not SAS the rear is and what happen when i went mudding i got stuck for the first time and all 3 tires was spining but one so i knew i had to get locking hubs or get something i not sure i never had to do something like this so help me please?
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Somehow this post was a duplicate.
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uhh...you already said that 4Crawler.....lmao
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I think the OP needs to read a few FAQ sections before posting any more questions. I know this is the noob section but come on.

He thinks he has 2 lockers in the front axle and his solid rear axle was apparently swapped w/ a solid axle. And now he's still looking to do a solid axle swap for the rear to get rid of his solid axle as well as get manual hubs for the rear. WTF?????
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[QUOTE=ocdropzone;51327059]front view of an '84-85 Straight axle truck:
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I have this i just looked at it
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1985 was the last year for the solid front axle (SFA), factory, for both p/us and 4runners. later years have Independent Front Suspension (IFS) and a lot of people do a Solid Axle Swap (SAS) on their IFS rigs. No Toyota p/u or 4runner in the N/A market has come with Independent Rear Suspension (IRS) so your rear could not have been SAS'ed, its just a Solid Rear Axle (SRA) from the factory.

Now. is your rig an '85 or '86 model year. If it has IFS but says "made xx-xx-1985" it is an '86 MODEL YEAR but it was MADE in 1985. If its an '86 model year it could have had an SAS done to it.

You have manual locking HUBS, not a manual locking DIFFERENTIAL. like I said, manual locking hubs only allow power to be supplied to the front wheels. You DO NOT want manual locking hubs on your rear. Pointless and possibly disasterous.

What you DO want is a LOCKING DIFFERENTIAL, which will supply even power to both wheels of the axle in which the locked differential resides. There are many options: Weld the spider gears or get a spool. Automatic locker. Limited slip. ARB air locker or Toyota Electric locker.
I do have manual locking hubs for the frount. I did not know it was pointless for it and disasterous. Thanks for that. What would i have to do to get Locking Differential on the truck?
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Where can i get a spool for the truck? If that is what i need to get to have both rear tires to turn at the same time when mudding and not just one.
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ok....go to marlincrawler.com, trail-gear.com, yadadayayayayaddd. click on differentials, then go to lockers. you have open diffs. when you lock in teh hubs, all your doing is puttin in in 4wd. in teh rear, the tire with the least amount of traction will spin. you cna go on google and type in toyota lockers. you have an 8inch front and rearend
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