Yota-Reign

Well I just put a Daystar lift kit (2.5" front, 2" rear) on my 04 Sport 4Runner last week. I was hoping to get away with keeping my stock wheels and just trimming some plastic with 285/70-17 BFG Mud Terrains. Problem is that the tires rub on the upper A-arms pretty bad at full turn, without any articulation... I tried some 1/4" wheel spacers, it cured the problem but, very scary... the whole front end started to wobble at 45 MPH. I am contemplating between new wheels, American Racing 17X8, 0 offset, and 4.5" backspacing or Inland Truck/Total Chaos upper A-arms to cure the problem. The cost works out to be roughly the same, I don't mind the way the stock wheels look, and at this time I doubt I will ever go with aftermarket coilovers due to the x-reas suspension, and no I don't want to get smaller tires... Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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BajaRunner

What wheel spacers did you use?

Try the marlin spacers... or any bolt on spacers for that matter. The actual "slide-on" ones seem to be scary in general.

5" of backspacing is stock on the 4th gens, so yes, 4.5" or less would be needed for sure.

Yota-Reign

I tried the 1/4" slide on style spacers... I think I would have to trim quite a bit of the actual bumper if I used even a 1" bolt on spacer. I had about a centimeter of clearance between the tire and bumper plastic with the slide on style spacers while turning the wheels, without any articulation.

I don't want to cut up the painted portion of the bumper plastic if I don't have to.

Good Times

Getting coilovers won't cure your problems so that's out of the question.

One alternative is to get new wheels as that will help cure the rubbing. Another option is to get the upper a-arms but I'm not sure if that will cure the problem when used in conjunction w/ the stock wheels.

I'd say the safe bet is to get some aftermarket wheels.

Good luck!

Good Times

With 285 MT's you're gonna rub. No questions about it The bumper is big so it's expected. Timber725 (I believe that's his username) has a 4th gen white 4runner. He has some photos of him trimming it. He did a great job so ask him how he did it soo nicely.

Good luck

r0cky

i'm not sure that's going to cure the problem ... i'm running 275s with 4" of lift and still had major problems with rubbing. granted, the rubbing didn't involve the upper arm, but still, you are going to have MAJOR rubbing problems trying to run those 285 mts with only 2.5" of lift.

i'm using some AR bajas with 4.5" of backspacing, and that definitely helped some. can you get to a Discount Tire or some store that'll test fit some wheels with your tire so at least you can see if that'll help enough to be worth it?

Yota-Reign

Thanks Good Times. I was hoping to hear from someone who has aftermarket upper A-arms... I wasn't sure how much clearance they would give me... If you say wheels are the safer way to go I will try that first... Besides, America's Tire said they would get some in for a test fit at no cost (that's where I got the tires.)

Good Times

I definitely recommend AT as I got it from them too! They'll do whatever they can to get your business so you might as well use their help

Good luck! Do remember that the arms will rub eventually only during full droop when offroading but if you don't plan to do alot of that, don't worry. It is an upgade that is recommended if you have the funds

But the wheels are the easier fix that should be a plus right now.

Yota-Reign

Thanks again, I will post an update after I test fit the wheels.

r0cky

good luck!! american racing 17x8 with 4.5" backspacing should help at least somewhat! (oh, and take some pictures too!)

FirstToy

yota-reign,
Check out Lefty's AR wheels- 0 offset- they looks sweet, perfect stance.

Yota-Reign

Well, I got some American Racing wheels, 17x8, 0 offset, and 4.5" bs
I think they are the exact same as Lefty's... not to copy him but there are not many choices...at least my 4runner is a different color.

It's time to celebrate, there is no rubbing on any metal. I did have to cut the inside black plastic, just the cups, and zip-tie it to the front end. I didnt want to just hack them off up high. This way I keep as much water off the back of the foglights as possible. I also had to cut the back edge of the front bumper with a knife so I could get home without ripping off the bumper. I will clean that up later.

Anyway this is the first time I have tried to post pics, hopefully it works and everyone can enjoy.

bulldog-yota

Looks mean.



So what is the difference between offset ( I get that part as the center of the wheel and depending which way it moves it becomes positive or negative) and backspacing?

r0cky

that looks great!!!!

Yota-Reign

Nothing, it really is just two ways of saying the same thing... just some wheel manufacturers only list one or the other and I wanted everybody to be able to make comparisons. There are different ways of measuring each of them though, notice they are 17x8 wheels and even though it is a 0 offset, the backspacing is listed as 4.5".

FirstToy

YR,
dude, that looks sweet! Good job.
I think Lefty's AR's are not chrome so they aren't EXACTLY the same

DealMaker

Looks very nice! Are those the 285/70-17's? Anyone know offhand what is the overall diamemter of that size in inches? I believe the stock tires are about 30", if I read my tape correctly.

jimbo74

285/70/17 = 32.7" diameter, 11.2" section width, 7.8" section height

advertised sized, well on paper anyways

timber725

You will need to trim more of the inner lining plastic than that. You will find that they rub the tires at articulation, coming up/down driveways. Turning corners, and offroading.

Lance got rid of almost all the linings. I got rid of all the little slits.

You will also need to trim more of the bumper, and painted area in front of the running board. I trimmed a lot and is still rubbing there.

You will also need to grind the bolts on the rear mud flaps down to the thickness of a dime. If you don't they will hook up with the tires under compression and tear the flaps right off (ask GoodTimes).

Looks great. Makes me wish I shoulda got those rims.

r0cky

I agree with timber ... even with 275s (which measured 32.6") almost all of the lining had to go in order for me to be able to turn and/or get out of driveways. I am amazed you are not having more rubbing problems since you only have 2.5" ... that's awesome! Don't be scared though if it ends up that you need to do more trimming ....