Yet again, Another Rear Window Thread...

[MaK92-4RnR]

Ok, So here's my situation. Bought a CB radio tail gate mount... cant get inside the tailgate without the window being rolled down ( obviously ) So. I go out to use my key on the gate, Doesn't work. so usually my back up plan is to fiddle with the inside switch, doesn't work. USUALLY this thing has a mind of its own and takes a quick minute to function. but its not budging. Now... I can hear the motor working, also when I use the switch or the key it makes CLICK noise and then stops. So what could it be? would buying a new motor fix this? if it could be that simple, that'd be great. by the way, i've read that the rear wind shield wiper motor has something to do with this? neither motors work. so lemme know what I can do to fix this and get my CB radio antenna mounted

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[tj884Rdlx]

if you can hear the motor, but the window isn't moving, you most likely stripped the teeth on the regulator. you should be able to shove the glass down, but sometimes when a regulator fails, the scissor of it kinda tweaks, and a bolt can hang up on something keeping it from moving.

that said, sometimes a bolt starts to back out, and stops the regulator from moving, causing the teeth to strip in one spot.

[Tubbyfatty]

You should mount your cb whip on the fender.

Mine isnt been working either tho. I can hear a click when i push the button up but nothing when i try and lower it fromt he button in the cab. My key only lets it go up not down. Ive messed with my wiper to make sure its up but nothing.

I used to be able to take the whole button out and wiggle the wires connected to it, might try that.

[hjkmotor]

my rear window will do that sometimes.... i just gotta get out and try to pull the window down. just put ur hands flat on it and push it down

mine makes a click and the window wont move.... idk whats wrong with it but every once in a while it gets off track.

jus break that winder and put up a screen

[crawyota]

my window stopped altoghether , so i bought a new used tailgate . and mounted my cb ant. to my bumper

[rocketbud]

I went through these problems last month, what a freaking over wired rear window nightmare (makes you just want to mount a double pole double throw toggle switch in that sucker and be done with it)

But if you guy's have not seen this write up: http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...arWindow.shtml you should take a look at it, I used his info to troubleshoot mine and ended up changing a relay in the board.

[MaK92-4RnR]

Well my window finally rolled down, I sat there and wiggled the key back and forth and then it eventually rolled down. I tried pushing down on it, it doesn't budge what so ever... it just..."shorting out" or being stubborn. it seriously only works when it wants to... is that a sign of the motor going out?

[4Crawler]

Likely the relays in the control box, if you had something "shorting out", there would be blown fuses/circuit breakers:
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...arWindow.shtml

[MaK92-4RnR]

Okay so I got the window to work. after 5 minutes of fiddling with it, it rolled down. after I was done working on it, i rolled it up. but now It wont roll down what so ever and i've been messing with it for half an hour now. can someone, in a simplified form, tell me how to roll the window down? I tried getting to the motor and such, but apparently you cant do that unless the gate is down? so uhhh... how's this gonna work?

[rocketbud]

Simplest way I know is to crawl into the back and hot wire the motor, remove carpet and metal plate (if not already off of door) find the window motor wire plug (should be right next to the motor, red and green wire I believe) unplug it, and ON THE MOTOR SIDE of the plug apply 12 volt pos. to the green and ground the red side to some metal on the door, if it tries to go up reveres your two hot wires and it should go down.

[rocketbud]

You might be able to do this using your battery charger to jump the motor?

[MaK92-4RnR]

I got it down... but then the window wouldn't go all the way down? so it wouldn't unlock? so after throwing a fit. i took apart the tail gate, and manually pushed the window down... ( im gonna buy a new motor at Pick N pull on sunday to see if that fixes it... I dont even think its the motor making the noise. its off to the left of the tail gate if Im standing, facing the tail gate. it just makes 1 click and stops.... window doesnt move... is that the relay or the motor?

[JShaffer0525]

hoping you figure something out, this just started happening to me at the worst possible time.

[4Crawler]

Originally Posted by MaK92-4RnR

I got it down... but then the window wouldn't go all the way down? so it wouldn't unlock? so after throwing a fit. i took apart the tail gate, and manually pushed the window down... ( im gonna buy a new motor at Pick N pull on sunday to see if that fixes it... I dont even think its the motor making the noise. its off to the left of the tail gate if Im standing, facing the tail gate. it just makes 1 click and stops.... window doesnt move... is that the relay or the motor?

Relays click, motors "whir".

[JShaffer0525]

hey 4crawler, which breaker/fuse goes to the rear window? my manual is missing that page.

[MaK92-4RnR]

yeah i've established that it isn't the motor... its the relay... the motor rolls the window up and down just fine. the relay ( off to the left of the tail gate ) just clicks... if i sit there for 10-50 minutes and turn the key it'll eventually roll down.

[Matt90V6SR5]

Speaking of the rear window,mine works perfect but is it normal to roll up slower than the rest of the windows?

[austinmacry]

I just got back inside from jumping my window motor. The key would only roll it down sometimes and the button on the inside just made the click sound in the driver side rear quater panel. Which after reading that article http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...html#MotorTest it tells me its the relay things. And for the price of those im willing to give it a try.

I had to give it a couple of shots to get it to roll all the way up though. It seems to slow down about 3/4 of the way up.

[4Crawler]

Originally Posted by JShaffer0525

hey 4crawler, which breaker/fuse goes to the rear window? my manual is missing that page.

I assume it is the same as used for the power windows, up front, driver's side kick panel:

The yellow thing:



http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTri...l#PowerWindows

[4Crawler]

Originally Posted by Matt90V6SR5

Speaking of the rear window,mine works perfect but is it normal to roll up slower than the rest of the windows?

Probably somewhat normal, if you consider the motor for the rear window is the same as the door windows and that window is a heck of a lot bigger/heavier and has a lot more friction and mechanism to it. But you could check the voltage at the motor going up and going down and if you find the "up" voltage is greatly reduced, it may be the "up" relay in the box has dirty contacts and is causing too much voltage drop to the motor.

[93yotaSR5]

time to go to pick n pull!

[rocketbud]

I have just a "little" to add on the relay issue, some that are not familiar with the internal workings of relay's may not know, 1. If you are hearing the relays click (that does not mean they are good) it means they are getting energized via your key or switch. 2. On these pc boards the relays are all intertwined with each other and I may be wrong about this but I believe it could be possible to have more then one bad relay on these boards at a time. The way the board looked to me they are using more then one relay at a time to transfer between positive and negative to reverse the motors direction?

My Radio shack only had one relay in stock so I had to remove my relays one at a time and bench test them to find the bad one (my window would not go up) in this pic you will see the blue RS relay that replaced my bad one.

If your RS has 4 relay's that you can buy just change all of them, It will only cost you 20 bucks.

If you go to the Radio shack website and search the part number use: 275-005,... 4crawler has on his page that it is 275-005A They must have changed the part No. there is no longer an "A" and you won't find them in the search that way.

They are a pain to get out of the board just as 4crawler has said, I used a solider sucker and they looked clean but would not budge, So pulling wiggling on the relay and quickly moving my soldering iron between the (5) pins they would slowly pull out of the pc board (took me almost 10 min. a relay) . You may also need to take a small drill bit and clean up the holes before you can insert the new relay's.

After you are all done get some silicone spray and clean and spray the rubber molding (In the grove) where the window go's up and down in your cab, this will take some strain off the motor and make it where there is less amperage going trough your new relays, wouldn't hurt to lube all the mechanical workings inside the door also.

[Kiroshu]

Ok I'm 90% sure your problem is the lock signal switch in the left tailgate latch. Its a pain to replace and a waste of time to do so for it will go bad again. Ok when you tailgate is open you will see on your left side a white connector. It will be clipped in a hole from the bottom. Thats the connector going to the lock switch. Take it out and bypass the switch by jumping a wire from the 1 pin to the 3 pin. Which is the first and last one. Don't bypass it on the switch side of the connector but the signal power side. Or it should be the right half of the connector. It will then prolly work. If not then look into your swithes and see if you can hear the relay clicking. The click you hear as you turn the key or hit the switch is the relay. Check wires.

[MaK92-4RnR]

I wish I knew alot about wiring... I'll probably just end up taking it in to get it operational... the motor is working just fine. when the window cooperates, it rolls up and down at the same speed it came from factory

[austinmacry]

Anyone know where to find a center console switch for the rear window. Toyota wants a little over 100 bucks for one! And oriely didn't have one.