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Old 03-08-2009, 04:49 PM
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Why does 22RE have such a good rep. when they suck!

OK, now that I've got your attention, I'm not trying to offend anyone. Here's my gripe.
I had an 87' 22re, turboed. The thing had only 140,00mi. when I bought it. Then I found out it had a blown head gasket, burnt valve, multiple cracks in head etc. I had it all rebuilt with new head and all. Six months later, more coolant in oil. This time turned out to be timing chain cover leak. I got tired of all the hassles and sold it.
I just bought a 94' pickup 22re w/ only 110,000 mi. on it and CHERRY!
"Wow what a find" i thought to myself. Now, a month after taking ownership AND dumping all kinds of money into it on mods..........what do you think I discovered when checking my oil today? You guessed it COOLANT IN THE OIL!!
I've owned lots of high mileage Chevys, Fords, a 3.4L Tacoma, a 3.0L 4runner and not ONE of them ever had a head gasket issue! (not even the 3.0 v6 which are notorious for this issue which I sold @185,000 miles with nary a problem) I always hear how great the 22re is and its so "bullet proof" and crap like that! I for one am NOT convinced. How many of you have had HG probs with this cursed motor?

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Old 03-08-2009, 04:55 PM
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how about you just keep buying neglected abused trucks..my family had a 87 runner in 88 till 95.. had 350 000km engine outlived body..
then we got 94 22re and it currently has 250kms..
no engine work done to either just oil changes .
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Never have I. Your first situation with the 22rte and the leaking timing cover was most likley due to mechanical eror when you had the head replaced and all that(I am asuming af course they did the timing chain when they replaced the head). I have once had a timing chain job that after I had it all put back together the timing cover leaked, I had to take it all apart and do it again. Also when you do lots of mods, like turbo's and whatever else you had done to your rigs, a motor will lose its reliability due to those mods. The reason toyota is is so reliable is because they are low horse power with beefed components. If you up the horse power you will run into issue's. Even so I still think that youre first 22r was because the timing cover was put back on improperly and the second 22r due to previous owner neglect.

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22re

I think its all a matter of who took care of the thing and how and when it was serviced. In my opinion all motors are pieces of crap unless you take care of them, love them, and nurture them. If you treat your car like crap all the time it will treat you with the same favor. 22re engines are just as vulnurable as any to problems if they are treated like !!!!!!
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crap

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is it the 22rte ( i think thats the turbo one) or the 22re with turbo aftermarket?

in my opinion, adding a turbo to a normal engine is where the problem lies. By normal, i mean an engine that was not built with a turbo in mind.

In my case, my 22re has 190k on it, has never been rebuilt, and has survived a totaling car crash, and its still chugging strong.
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my 89 truck with a 22re had 300,000 miles. i bought it with 178,000 and other than trans probs., it's been bullit proof. i drive 75 mph with a 50 mile round trip. sure it leaks a little, and burns a little oil. but it starts everytime. i've pulled a f150 out of his back yard, i've delivered kitchen cabinets, even pulled a bobcat out of a mud hole. i've taught my 3 sons how to drive in it and the clutch survived. it's the best vehical i've ever owned. period. sorry about your bad luck
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huh...

so be it a bad egg, or just neglected by the previous owner, it automatically makes the 22re (rte in your case) a crap motor?

tell that to all the guys pushing 300k miles in theirs... including me...


thank you for expressing your opinion though
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Old 03-08-2009, 06:10 PM
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who replaced your headgaskets? it is possible to do a half a$$ job of replacing them.
something like not lubing the headstuds before you put them in (dry torque vs wet torque).
or not retorquing them after a certain number of heat cycles.

that being said my 4runner with 130k miles is on its 3rd motor. i dont know why they where replaced, i have only owned it for 300 miles.
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Geez

I knew I would get some feathers ruffled. As me says, I was just trying to get yer attention.......take a pill
Yea, youz could say I've had bad luck alright. And to clarify, the turbo was factory stock.
Thanks fer da input ya'lls.

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Oh yea

and the outfit that did the repairs did warranty the work both times so I only paid once but was w/out my truck too often,
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To BigT

BigT,

As I stated, the truck was well cared for and in cherry-ass shape clearly not an abused truck.
What a sensitive lot you are.....geez
Old 03-08-2009, 06:51 PM
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i have never had any problems with my 22re powered vehicles.. with proper adjustments, routine maitnence, and knowing how far you can push them with out hurting them they will outlast the frame IMO i know several people personaly that have had 22r and 22re motors that hit the 300xxx mark with out ever being rebuilt. now at the same time i have been witness on a few occasions when 22re's and R's have died a horrible death.. and trust me they dont go peacefully lol a good friend had a first gen truck that literaly drove over 50 miles with less than a quart of oil in it and the rods and pistons banging around inside the block like a tin can full of spoons
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If you cheap out on a truck then the engine my not be as good as you hope. These are Toyota's and they retain their value. Whereas a domestic would simply be scrapped when they reach a point of disrepair, Toyotas sell for cheap prices.
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my 22re that i had before my rebuild ran great even though the block and the head were warped alot and coolant was running through my oil. Other than that it did fine.
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just saying ive had 3 still have 2 runners with that engine and one celicia and they all ran great with no issue..

never had a turbo one..

but you could buy 10 used vehicles and have head gaskets go on all of them.. a well cared for on the outside truck doesnt mean they took care of the engine.

if you didnt like the first truck why go with a second non turbo?
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22RE's are the bee knees

Love them and they'll love you
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BigT,

You sure have BIG nack for stirring the pot don't you? (there's at least one on every forum) I only started this thread to vent my personal frustration and inquire about others experiences, not to deal with 'panty wadders' like you who make everything into a mud sliging match. I bought the 2nd 22RE because I wrote the turbo off as a lemon.
Now a think you've had your say, you think I'm a dumbass and thats fine. Now leave it alone.
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yodercrawler

"my 22re that i had before my rebuild ran great even though the block and the head were warped alot and coolant was running through my oil. Other than that it did fine"

Yodercrawler,
Just curious, you said "ran fine before the rebuild", what about after? Were there problems then? Also, how long didja run it all warped and leaky?


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