Whats going on with my 22RE 2x4 1993 truck, Video of truck running and photos of plug
#1
Whats going on with my 22RE 2x4 1993 truck, Video of truck running and photos of plug
Issues:
When I give the engine gas then let off when the clutch is not engaged I get an odd clicking sound.
Bit of fouling on all the spark plugs as shown below.
When in go up hills accelerating I get a loud clicking sound for the rear end(I think, but its hard to tell)
Questions:
What could be wrong?
What is the most cost effective way to go about diagnosing the issues?
Photos and video link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PR_OFPA-qE
Plug one
Plug two
When I give the engine gas then let off when the clutch is not engaged I get an odd clicking sound.
Bit of fouling on all the spark plugs as shown below.
When in go up hills accelerating I get a loud clicking sound for the rear end(I think, but its hard to tell)
Questions:
What could be wrong?
What is the most cost effective way to go about diagnosing the issues?
Photos and video link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PR_OFPA-qE
Plug one
Plug two
#5
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Spark plugs, distributor cap and rotor, plug wires. Ignition timing reset to specs. When setting the timing don't forget the diagnostic plug jumper. Also a valve lash adjustment may or may not be in order. Those sounds kinda quiet IMO but I know how cams play tricks so.
#6
Spark plugs, distributor cap and rotor, plug wires. Ignition timing reset to specs. When setting the timing don't forget the diagnostic plug jumper. Also a valve lash adjustment may or may not be in order. Those sounds kinda quiet IMO but I know how cams play tricks so.
It looks like a bit of oil is getting into the combustion chamber and burring off, but what that means I do not know.
I may have a compression test done and see what those numbers look like.
I have a shop under 20 min away from me that does injection rebuilds and has a flow bench on site, I may pop off the fuel rail and have them rebuilt or at least checked and have the tune up done.
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Yeah, I basically meant new plugs, wires cap and rotor. It wouldn't hurt to check the valves but the motor didn't seem to be vibrating and it was quiet so I wouldn't be too concerned with the valves right now.
The fuel injectors make noise on these, it means they are working, also the rear most intake valve can make some noise if someone tried to adjust it and didn't get it tight enough.
If you do adjust the valves I would recommend .007" intake and .011" exhaust with the engine COLD. There is not much of difference with the clearances with the engine being hot or cold in my experience.
The fuel injectors make noise on these, it means they are working, also the rear most intake valve can make some noise if someone tried to adjust it and didn't get it tight enough.
If you do adjust the valves I would recommend .007" intake and .011" exhaust with the engine COLD. There is not much of difference with the clearances with the engine being hot or cold in my experience.
Last edited by pruney81; 09-06-2011 at 09:46 AM.
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#8
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Injectors and valves are typically on the louder side on these engines. But all of those are good places to start on a higher mileage engine. Sometimes the back of the cover will make a little noise if it has been torqued down too much as well. Reason being that the rockers will hit the cover if the cover is on too tight. Those top nuts only get something like 14 inch lbs. Which is barely enough to squish those rubber grommets.
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Injectors and valves are typically on the louder side on these engines. But all of those are good places to start on a higher mileage engine. Sometimes the back of the cover will make a little noise if it has been torqued down too much as well. Reason being that the rockers will hit the cover if the cover is on too tight. Those top nuts only get something like 14 inch lbs. Which is barely enough to squish those rubber grommets.
So far I think my list of stuff to do is
*NGK ˟Spark Plugs
*NGK ignition wire set
*OEM Distributor Cap and Rotor
Rebuilt, balanced and flow tested fuel injector set
Vac-lines
I will take the truck to a local shop for Value leash adjustment
Ignition timing reset
Things with a * I will do ASAP and the others ill have to wait a few weeks.
Anything I should add to the list?
I was told changeling the oil to mobile one synthetic is a good idea on these trucks after 200k think that is a good idea?
#11
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You can do the valve lash, I just did it on mine for the first time and it's really pretty easy. The Haynes Manual has some really easy to follow instructions and all you need is a screw driver, a wrench and a set of feeler gauges and some patience.
#12
Would be nice to have this done before i have to drive 500 miles this weekend.
#13
Now whats going on? 1993 Pickup 220k miles ruff idle when I depress brakes
Just one more issue to add to the list.
I just swapped out a leaky PCV valve and put on a new valve cover gasket.
I just swapped out a leaky PCV valve and put on a new valve cover gasket.
Last edited by jemsdca; 09-06-2011 at 02:07 PM.
#14
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Idle set too high or vacuum leak is causing high idle. When idle is above 1000ish ???? RPM and the brakes are applied it activates the fuel cut. Turn idle down or fix whats causing high idle and problem will most likely go away. If problem was not there before the PCV change, chances are you caused a vacuum leak somewhere.
#15
Idle set too high or vacuum leak is causing high idle. When idle is above 1000ish ???? RPM and the brakes are applied it activates the fuel cut. Turn idle down or fix whats causing high idle and problem will most likely go away. If problem was not there before the PCV change, chances are you caused a vacuum leak somewhere.
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#16
What may have cuase this is when I chnaged over the PCV and gasket I all so cleaned out the throttle body with spray cleaner that may allow more air in witch raised the idol over 1k I should look for leaks but I bet the cleaning was it, because tones of crap came out of the throttle body.
#17
What may have cuase this is when I chnaged over the PCV and gasket I all so cleaned out the throttle body with spray cleaner that may allow more air in witch raised the idol over 1k I should look for leaks but I bet the cleaning was it, because tones of crap came out of the throttle body.
Well I lowered the idol time not idea what its set to, but I lowered it about 1/3rd a turn and the sounded about right hopped into the car and pressed the brakes and nothing happened so it looks like this is fixed. I will look for a leak latter tonight with some propane but it is about 110 outside right now so I will wait till it cools down.
#18
New video of the truck running
Update to
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116.../#post51782608
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZusP8onUaU
This is a follow up to my last video
After the following
throttle body cleaning(spray can)
New PCV+grommet
Plugs + wires
Valve cover gasket+ 4x Grommets + 2 half moon plug things.
Oil changed from 20-50 to 10-40(this was the big change I think)
New Thermostat and Gasket (old was leaking, wire brushed the seat because it was all crusted up not allowing a good seal.)
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116.../#post51782608
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZusP8onUaU
This is a follow up to my last video
After the following
throttle body cleaning(spray can)
New PCV+grommet
Plugs + wires
Valve cover gasket+ 4x Grommets + 2 half moon plug things.
Oil changed from 20-50 to 10-40(this was the big change I think)
New Thermostat and Gasket (old was leaking, wire brushed the seat because it was all crusted up not allowing a good seal.)