what is required for 33's?

MattInTheCouv · 03-24-2007, 08:16 PM

did a couple searches and didn't come up with anything. on our years of truck, what do ya gotta do to get 33's to fit and function off-road without rub? speaking in terms of above and beyond a dead stock 4x4, of course. curious cause, well...come on, 33's are way the hell cooler than 31's, right?

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ChickenLover · 03-24-2007, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattInTheCouv

33's are way the hell cooler than 31's, right?

I doubt your 3.0 will agree.

This topic has been discussed several times. Get started here. http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=66255

MattInTheCouv · 03-24-2007, 08:33 PM

funny you should mention that. i had a talk with it the other day. i told it to pack it's crap and get the hell out. my new lover, the 3.4 from a 97 taco that's sitting on my engine stand in the garage is ready to move in.

but thanks for the warning, cause that would suck if i tried to run them with the 3.slow, but i'm gonna totally gut this thing when i do the taco conversion. i'm gonna tear out the carpet and do a rhino lining or similar style coating, put new suspension on the rear, and some new stuff on the front, etc... so if i'm gonna go through the trouble of doing a bunch of suspension stuff, i'd hate to do ALMOST enough to allow me to upgrade to 33's.

tc · 03-24-2007, 08:41 PM

Technically, the answer to your question is:
mount them on the stock rims and bolt them on. The key factor is going with 33x10.50 instead of the wider ones. I run Dunlop Radial Rover RVXT 33x10.50-15 with NO rubbing AT ALL.

To fit 33x12.50, you're looking for about 3" lift wth 3.75" BS IIRC

BeaterToyota · 03-24-2007, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tc

Technically, the answer to your question is:
mount them on the stock rims and bolt them on. The key factor is going with 33x10.50 instead of the wider ones. I run Dunlop Radial Rover RVXT 33x10.50-15 with NO rubbing AT ALL.

Yep. Maybe add a bj spacer and a small 1"-2" lift in the rear if you want.

I ran 32x10.50 Swampers on my junk stock, and they measue only about 1/4" shorter than a BFG 33x10.50.

MattInTheCouv · 03-24-2007, 09:14 PM

wow, good stuff. that kinda makes me wonder if they look funny, though. being so tall and not so wide? and raises another thought in my noggin... do you need to do anything to fit 32x11.50's?

BeaterToyota · 03-24-2007, 09:15 PM

Here they are on my '88 when it was stock (well, stock except for the bed):

And I stuck them on my stock '94 daily driver for one trip:

MattInTheCouv · 03-24-2007, 09:37 PM

hmm... doesn't look funny at all. daddy likes.

tc · 03-24-2007, 10:23 PM

Yeah, I think they look pretty good ... now the 34x9.50 TSL's looked a lttle narrow...

An interesting article on the traction benefits of tall/skinny offroad:
http://www.expeditionswest.com/resea...tion_rev1.html

Here's 33x10.50 on my '934Runner with no lift

tc · 03-24-2007, 10:24 PM

Oh - and you can fit 32x11.50 too, but why? The only way to get ground clearance under the diff is with taller tires....

MattInTheCouv · 03-25-2007, 12:38 AM

cause i'm one of those people that likes to know all their options before making a decision. i call it "detail oriented" my ex seems prefer the term "anal-retentive"

oh, and that article totally rocks....

slosurfer · 03-25-2007, 12:44 AM

33x12.5's on 15x8 rims 3.75" backspacing with BJ spacers, slight rubbing on full compression while turning, especially now that I have low pro compression bumpstops. (getting a 1" body lift soon to alleviate that)

**Tofer** · 03-25-2007, 12:48 AM

35x12.50 with some slight modifications.

MattInTheCouv · 03-25-2007, 12:57 AM

*chuckle*...slight modifications... if the mods are worth more than the reasonable street value of the unmodded vehicle... i don't think you are allowed to refer to them as 'slight'. but yeah, thanks for the pics, guys. much appreciated. totally helps make the decision process easier.

Brenjen · 03-25-2007, 08:23 AM

I haven't read the article but in the local mud bog races when I was in school the skinny tires went through the muck much farther than the wide tire trucks & the skinny tires did fine in the rocks & snow as well. The only benefit from the wide tires over the skinny tires was on semi solid loose material like sand, that's where they shined; the skinny tires dug in & bottomed out the diffs really quick; especially with novice drivers who got too deep into the skinny pedal. Everyone knows, or should know, the taller the tire, the more lift your diff gets off the ground, which is the only way to lift a diff.

That's what I have experienced first hand, now off to read the article!

isaac338 · 03-25-2007, 10:14 AM

I've got 5 BFG A/Ts, 33x10.50 mounted on stock Toyota alloys with about 65% tread left I'll sell you for $800 + shipping. Pretty good shape, I ran them for a while with no lift and they rubbed ever so slightly on the lower valence (which would probably go away with a few turns of the torsion bars).

It's a long shot but I figured I'd mention it...

91ToyTrck · 03-25-2007, 04:49 PM

I agree with 33x10.50s on a stock suspension. I'm probably going to run them even when SAS my truck. I just really like the size.

norcalsvx · 03-26-2007, 08:35 AM

33x10.50 muds, BJ spacer, OME torsions, dual shock kit

dijlop · 03-26-2007, 10:22 AM

just to throw something in here real quick, u guys keep sayin, just put em in, they will fit, but i rly cant see my 94' pu fitting anywhere close to 33's stock. im running like 26 inches on my truck right now, and iv got some room, but the highest i feel safe goin to is the 29 bfg at's, and thats gonig to be with like an inch in front and back. am i just crazy?

bruzer1123 · 03-26-2007, 10:56 AM

I am sure that most people are referring to fitting those tires on a 4x4. But I guess you know that.

norcalsvx · 03-26-2007, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dijlop

just to throw something in here real quick, u guys keep sayin, just put em in, they will fit, but i rly cant see my 94' pu fitting anywhere close to 33's stock. im running like 26 inches on my truck right now, and iv got some room, but the highest i feel safe goin to is the 29 bfg at's, and thats gonig to be with like an inch in front and back. am i just crazy?

yea with the 4x4 you can fit 33x10.50's stock with a little hammering od the pinch welds

dijlop · 03-26-2007, 11:36 AM

just had to bring that up eh? lol. yea, this i know all too well. but regardless, anyone know the specs for max tire size on the amazing 2wd that is obviously way better than 4wd cause its more rare and highly specialized. lol. -_^

dlbrunner · 03-26-2007, 11:38 AM

Costco wouldn't sell me 33 x 10.5. They only sell what the vehicle had from the factory so I had to get 31's boooo.

33x10.5 is next.

I really liked the Expeditions west article. I want to set my truck up like that (expedition style)

OSU4Runner · 03-26-2007, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattInTheCouv

funny you should mention that. i had a talk with it the other day. i told it to pack it's crap and get the hell out. my new lover, the 3.4 from a 97 taco that's sitting on my engine stand in the garage is ready to move in.

Haha......I laughed my a$$ off after I read that!

drew303 · 03-26-2007, 12:17 PM

I think I could fit 33's =) Dunno tho, I had some slight rubbing with these 31's before the 1.5" balljoint spacers (2" body lift). But my IFS is tweaked and bent and just plain messed up (accident, pass side). We'll see Im still hunting for a new straight frame. Have one lined up so stay tuned for a frame-up yota build =)

I have 31x10.5r15 Dunlop Mud Rovers right now on 15x8 wheels with I either 3.5" or 3.75" backspacing (forget) Unless I was running 35's (12.5" wide) 10.5" tread width is perfect, tho 33x10.5's are a rare size and not many tires come that size!

It has 1.5" BJ spacers, 2" rear lift shackles (I think they're 3" overstock?... 5" would of been better) and a 2" body lift (body lift is so pass side torsion bar fits!!!!!!)

03-24-2007, 08:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
MattInTheCouv Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 23	funny you should mention that. i had a talk with it the other day. i told it to pack it's crap and get the hell out. my new lover, the 3.4 from a 97 taco that's sitting on my engine stand in the garage is ready to move in. but thanks for the warning, cause that would suck if i tried to run them with the 3.slow, but i'm gonna totally gut this thing when i do the taco conversion. i'm gonna tear out the carpet and do a rhino lining or similar style coating, put new suspension on the rear, and some new stuff on the front, etc... so if i'm gonna go through the trouble of doing a bunch of suspension stuff, i'd hate to do ALMOST enough to allow me to upgrade to 33's. __________________ 93 pickup, ext. cab, 4x4, 3.0, 5spd, 230k miles, 31x10.5x15 general grabber at2 tires on factory steels, factory toyota canopy, manual hubs. Last edited by MattInTheCouv; 03-24-2007 at 08:34 PM.

03-24-2007, 08:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
tc Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 8,372	Technically, the answer to your question is: mount them on the stock rims and bolt them on. The key factor is going with 33x10.50 instead of the wider ones. I run Dunlop Radial Rover RVXT 33x10.50-15 with NO rubbing AT ALL. To fit 33x12.50, you're looking for about 3" lift wth 3.75" BS IIRC __________________ Check out www.coTTORA.org to hook up with great Toyota 'wheelin' folks! Current - 93 4Runner: 3VZ 33"x10.50" no lift ARB F/R 96 Impala SS: My own personal cop car Previous - 89 2WD Pickup 22R, Fabtech "Ivan Dan" lift, 31x10.50, IASCA World Finals 4th Place Stop with the mods and get on the trail! Pix at www.4wheelingoh.shutterfly.com/action

03-24-2007, 09:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
MattInTheCouv Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 23	wow, good stuff. that kinda makes me wonder if they look funny, though. being so tall and not so wide? and raises another thought in my noggin... do you need to do anything to fit 32x11.50's? __________________ 93 pickup, ext. cab, 4x4, 3.0, 5spd, 230k miles, 31x10.5x15 general grabber at2 tires on factory steels, factory toyota canopy, manual hubs.

03-24-2007, 09:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
BeaterToyota Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Warrenton, VA Posts: 644	Here they are on my '88 when it was stock (well, stock except for the bed): And I stuck them on my stock '94 daily driver for one trip: __________________ Click here to buy rock crawling stickers and shirts

03-24-2007, 09:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
MattInTheCouv Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 23	hmm... doesn't look funny at all. daddy likes. __________________ 93 pickup, ext. cab, 4x4, 3.0, 5spd, 230k miles, 31x10.5x15 general grabber at2 tires on factory steels, factory toyota canopy, manual hubs.

03-24-2007, 10:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
tc Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 8,372	Yeah, I think they look pretty good ... now the 34x9.50 TSL's looked a lttle narrow... An interesting article on the traction benefits of tall/skinny offroad: http://www.expeditionswest.com/resea...tion_rev1.html Here's 33x10.50 on my '934Runner with no lift __________________ Check out www.coTTORA.org to hook up with great Toyota 'wheelin' folks! Current - 93 4Runner: 3VZ 33"x10.50" no lift ARB F/R 96 Impala SS: My own personal cop car Previous - 89 2WD Pickup 22R, Fabtech "Ivan Dan" lift, 31x10.50, IASCA World Finals 4th Place Stop with the mods and get on the trail! Pix at www.4wheelingoh.shutterfly.com/action

03-24-2007, 10:24 PM	#10 (permalink)
tc Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 8,372	Oh - and you can fit 32x11.50 too, but why? The only way to get ground clearance under the diff is with taller tires.... __________________ Check out www.coTTORA.org to hook up with great Toyota 'wheelin' folks! Current - 93 4Runner: 3VZ 33"x10.50" no lift ARB F/R 96 Impala SS: My own personal cop car Previous - 89 2WD Pickup 22R, Fabtech "Ivan Dan" lift, 31x10.50, IASCA World Finals 4th Place Stop with the mods and get on the trail! Pix at www.4wheelingoh.shutterfly.com/action

03-25-2007, 12:38 AM	#11 (permalink)
MattInTheCouv Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 23	cause i'm one of those people that likes to know all their options before making a decision. i call it "detail oriented" my ex seems prefer the term "anal-retentive" oh, and that article totally rocks.... __________________ 93 pickup, ext. cab, 4x4, 3.0, 5spd, 230k miles, 31x10.5x15 general grabber at2 tires on factory steels, factory toyota canopy, manual hubs. Last edited by MattInTheCouv; 03-25-2007 at 12:44 AM.

03-25-2007, 12:44 AM	#12 (permalink)
slosurfer Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Los Osos, CA (we can't agree on crap!) Posts: 2,155	33x12.5's on 15x8 rims 3.75" backspacing with BJ spacers, slight rubbing on full compression while turning, especially now that I have low pro compression bumpstops. (getting a 1" body lift soon to alleviate that) __________________ Chris 7th Annual Pismo Jamboree: Sept. 25-27, 2009 '93 4runner SR5 3.0 Auto 4WD '07 Tacoma Dcab 4x4 TRD offroad '89 F250 4x4 w/utility bed M416 1/4 ton military trailer "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem." Ronald Reagan Semper Fi SLO 4wheelers

03-25-2007, 12:48 AM	#13 (permalink)
Tofer Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 6,905	35x12.50 with some slight modifications. __________________ 94 4runenr: all the good stuff....... 89 4runner: 3.0, Auto, 5.29 lockright f/r. 31x10.5 wildcountry ATs. 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \|Civic SI seats \| LockRight \| Hella 500s pacific-crawlers.com For all your Trail-gear and HID lighting Solutions Needs check out yotaworks.com Online store coming soon :)

03-25-2007, 12:57 AM	#14 (permalink)
MattInTheCouv Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 23	chuckle...slight modifications... if the mods are worth more than the reasonable street value of the unmodded vehicle... i don't think you are allowed to refer to them as 'slight'. but yeah, thanks for the pics, guys. much appreciated. totally helps make the decision process easier. __________________ 93 pickup, ext. cab, 4x4, 3.0, 5spd, 230k miles, 31x10.5x15 general grabber at2 tires on factory steels, factory toyota canopy, manual hubs.

03-25-2007, 08:23 AM	#15 (permalink)
Brenjen Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Searcy, Arkansas Posts: 1,191	I haven't read the article but in the local mud bog races when I was in school the skinny tires went through the muck much farther than the wide tire trucks & the skinny tires did fine in the rocks & snow as well. The only benefit from the wide tires over the skinny tires was on semi solid loose material like sand, that's where they shined; the skinny tires dug in & bottomed out the diffs really quick; especially with novice drivers who got too deep into the skinny pedal. Everyone knows, or should know, the taller the tire, the more lift your diff gets off the ground, which is the only way to lift a diff. That's what I have experienced first hand, now off to read the article! __________________ '95 4Runner 3.0 Automatic bone stock; it's becoming a project slowly but surely, one part at a time "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”

03-25-2007, 10:14 AM	#16 (permalink)
isaac338 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Halifax, NS, Canada Posts: 849	I've got 5 BFG A/Ts, 33x10.50 mounted on stock Toyota alloys with about 65% tread left I'll sell you for $800 + shipping. Pretty good shape, I ran them for a while with no lift and they rubbed ever so slightly on the lower valence (which would probably go away with a few turns of the torsion bars). It's a long shot but I figured I'd mention it... __________________ 1994 Xtracab pickup, 180,000km 1987 4Runner, 510,000km

03-25-2007, 04:49 PM	#17 (permalink)
91ToyTrck Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 574	I agree with 33x10.50s on a stock suspension. I'm probably going to run them even when SAS my truck. I just really like the size.

03-26-2007, 08:35 AM	#18 (permalink)
norcalsvx Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Alpine--GRASS valley, CA Posts: 2,132	33x10.50 muds, BJ spacer, OME torsions, dual shock kit __________________ 1994 toy 22re- http://www.yotatech.com/f86/nocalsvx-s-94-toy-104593/ 2006 Subaru Forester XT -some mods/awd 5spd 1994 Subaru SVX- hwy runner 84 RX7- drag car build

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dijlop Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: fl Posts: 1,169	just to throw something in here real quick, u guys keep sayin, just put em in, they will fit, but i rly cant see my 94' pu fitting anywhere close to 33's stock. im running like 26 inches on my truck right now, and iv got some room, but the highest i feel safe goin to is the 29 bfg at's, and thats gonig to be with like an inch in front and back. am i just crazy? __________________ Dead '94 2.4L 22re 2wd pu, k&n air filter, thrush glasspack, 4in over stock rear shackles, 1.5in ball joint spacers, 4in infinity reference dash speakers, pioneer head unit, 10in p2 sub, alpine amp. bed cap topper thingy. great for campin. Current-2004 toyota tacoma, 2wd, 3.4L, prerunner, e-locker, tow package, trd package, ext cab, alpine head unit, polk speakers all around, punch p2 10" run off a alpine mono amp, silver paint. ohhhh its purty...

03-26-2007, 10:56 AM	#20 (permalink)
bruzer1123 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Idaho Posts: 337	I am sure that most people are referring to fitting those tires on a 4x4. But I guess you know that.

03-26-2007, 11:36 AM	#22 (permalink)
dijlop Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: fl Posts: 1,169	just had to bring that up eh? lol. yea, this i know all too well. but regardless, anyone know the specs for max tire size on the amazing 2wd that is obviously way better than 4wd cause its more rare and highly specialized. lol. -_^ __________________ Dead '94 2.4L 22re 2wd pu, k&n air filter, thrush glasspack, 4in over stock rear shackles, 1.5in ball joint spacers, 4in infinity reference dash speakers, pioneer head unit, 10in p2 sub, alpine amp. bed cap topper thingy. great for campin. Current-2004 toyota tacoma, 2wd, 3.4L, prerunner, e-locker, tow package, trd package, ext cab, alpine head unit, polk speakers all around, punch p2 10" run off a alpine mono amp, silver paint. ohhhh its purty...

03-26-2007, 11:38 AM	#23 (permalink)
dlbrunner Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: phoenix Posts: 1,141	Costco wouldn't sell me 33 x 10.5. They only sell what the vehicle had from the factory so I had to get 31's boooo. 33x10.5 is next. I really liked the Expeditions west article. I want to set my truck up like that (expedition style) __________________ Duncan -------------------------------------------------- Current: 95 4X4 SR5 V6, Yakima tracks/rack installed. Aisin hubs. Sonoran Steel IFS Truss. Cobra CB(finally!) Desired: 66 FJ45 shorty EX's: 89 4X4 V6 Downey'd 72 FJ40 W 350/SM465 powertrax, "Billy"

03-26-2007, 12:17 PM	#25 (permalink)
drew303 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,032	I think I could fit 33's =) Dunno tho, I had some slight rubbing with these 31's before the 1.5" balljoint spacers (2" body lift). But my IFS is tweaked and bent and just plain messed up (accident, pass side). We'll see Im still hunting for a new straight frame. Have one lined up so stay tuned for a frame-up yota build =) I have 31x10.5r15 Dunlop Mud Rovers right now on 15x8 wheels with I either 3.5" or 3.75" backspacing (forget) Unless I was running 35's (12.5" wide) 10.5" tread width is perfect, tho 33x10.5's are a rare size and not many tires come that size! It has 1.5" BJ spacers, 2" rear lift shackles (I think they're 3" overstock?... 5" would of been better) and a 2" body lift (body lift is so pass side torsion bar fits!!!!!!) __________________ 1987 Pickup, single cab, 22R, new head, 260 cam TG 3" SAS, rear disc brakes, chromoly rear axles, Chromoly Birfs, Tcase brake, 37x12.50R15 MT/Rs, 5.29 gears, rear Aussie Locker, front Detroit Truetrac.

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