truck wont go into gear while running?

SR5 · 01-05-2010, 01:27 PM

but when its off it shifts through all the gears just fine.
also clutch males a Sqeeek* when i press down on it,(whille running only)
i replaced the clutch slave sylinder thinking that was the problem...but no change
so anyone got any ideas?

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SR5 · 01-05-2010, 01:32 PM

oh and this happend while i was driving so to get it home i turned it off, put it into gear and used the start clutch cancel and held down the gas and off i went, i could shift into other gears, but it wasnt easy, i basicly just jamed them into gear, i know it was bad, but there was no way i was paying for a tow truck

Windsor · 01-05-2010, 01:33 PM

have you checked the clutch master cyl?

thedanned · 01-05-2010, 01:38 PM

So is your clutch not disengaging all the way? When in gear with the clutch pushed in, the truck is still "in gear", like still moving forward? The squeal could be the throw out bearing or the pilot bearing. Pop open the inspection plate and have someone operate the clutch while you watch the clutch move and let us know what you find.

89whitetoyota · 01-05-2010, 01:39 PM

had a similar issue and my pressure plate was cracked. does it get stuck in gear at all? Also check your slave cylinder for leaks too.

SR5 · 01-05-2010, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Windsor

have you checked the clutch master cyl?

not yet, but how would i check it?

SR5 · 01-05-2010, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedanned

So is your clutch not disengaging all the way? When in gear with the clutch pushed in, the truck is still "in gear", like still moving forward? The squeal could be the throw out bearing or the pilot bearing. Pop open the inspection plate and have someone operate the clutch while you watch the clutch move and let us know what you find.

if put it in gear, press the clutch down and try to start it, it just jumps and dies, as if the clutch the dosent engage

thedanned · 01-05-2010, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SR5

if put it in gear, press the clutch down and try to start it, it just jumps and dies, as if the clutch the dosent engage

Ah. Your clutch is actually not disengaging, then. It is constantly in contact with the flywheel and not letting the trans disconnect from the engine to change gears. Look at the clutch fork: if you can see it move, the master and slave cylinders are ok and you are looking at the clutch itself.

Kiroshu · 01-05-2010, 02:31 PM

I'd say its time for a good clutch kit.

Windsor · 01-05-2010, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedanned

Ah. Your clutch is actually not disengaging, then. It is constantly in contact with the flywheel and not letting the trans disconnect from the engine to change gears.

Yup, what he said -- this is the basic problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedanned

Look at the clutch fork: if you can see it move, the master and slave cylinders are ok and you are looking at the clutch itself.

Yeah, something is failing, somewhere. The OP needs to check everything end-to-end in the clutch system -- I would recommend starting with the clutch pedal and end up at the flywheel.

Usually the components that fail are the master cylinder and slave cylinder, since they're the only moving parts that aren't replaced periodically. The clutch fork lever can crack/bend, so it would be worth checking.

toad559 · 01-05-2010, 07:30 PM

dude i got the ecaxt same problem! just now i posted it up. no one i know has a clue. i have the exact same problem. pm me or reply to my post on how you fix it or what is wrong. my truck was parked for a month and this morning i finaly decided to run it and it happened! lmk asap, thanks

torquoise89 · 01-07-2010, 08:15 PM

this happens to me all the time! but after i drive aroung for a while it is like perfectly fine

peow130 · 01-07-2010, 08:32 PM

Generally this means you have a clutch going out...

orrr, you cracked your firewall around your clutch pedal and your adjuster is way out of whack..
try playing with that.

torquoise89 · 01-07-2010, 08:59 PM

thanks, but why when i drive it does it act normal again?

peow130 · 01-07-2010, 09:02 PM

You're warming up the clutch by letting it slip, it expands and then your stuff starts working again?
I don't know, i'm just saying ideas.
If it were me, i'd pull the tranny, clutch, pressure plate, and flywheel.
Get a whole new clutch kit and get the flywheel resurfaced, and put it all back together.

rangerruck · 01-08-2010, 06:24 AM

am right now just finished going through the EXACT SAME THING....
you will need a new clutch kit, and a tranny rebuild. You allready did the slave which is good, unless it is chinese made, then it will fail, and proly within the first month, I think mine has, as it is feeling like I am ' riding the clutch' a bit now.
But everything else, was still needed, a whole new clutch kit assy., and a tranny rebuild. So you might as well get busy, or start saving up some money.
I have one of the best tranny shops in the country down here, and all the parts came to about 550 bucks, it is the labor that is gonna get you.

so if you get underneath, and have someone push the clutch, and the fork moves fine, and you look inside the cab, and the bracket around the clutchrod is not cracked anywhere, then you know
what you are gonna have to do ...

Tachyon1990 · 01-08-2010, 08:26 AM

I tried climbing a mountain with my truck and when i was headed up there were some spots where i got stuck and had to throw it into reverse and then first, i kept repeating tell i got over the part i got stuck well i got to a spot and threw it into reverse then when i went to get into first gear it went in easy but it wouldn't move. now with the truck started i can put the stick into each gear spot without holding the clutch. ( not suppose to be able to do that) and soo i feel like its stuck in neutral and wont go into gear with or without the clutch. can anybody help me out with this? oh yeah and when im playing with the stick the gears arnt grinding like they usually do.

chuntr · 01-08-2010, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 89whitetoyota

had a similar issue and my pressure plate was cracked. does it get stuck in gear at all? Also check your slave cylinder for leaks too.

same here on my 88 pickup, except the pressure plate shattered into 4 pieces. it would still drive mostly, but i couldn't shift gears with the engine running, and it would just burn the clutch up if I tried to go uphill. mechanic who pulled the tranny said he'd never seen anything like it.

torquoise89 · 01-08-2010, 06:09 PM

i pulled my floor mat from under the clutch pedal and its shifts fine cold, but when its warm its back to not shifting.

rangerruck · 01-08-2010, 07:36 PM

turquoise; you have at least one prob; you slave cyl sounds like it could be a prob, or the fork, as the slave can start out fine when cold then when it warms up, the piston does not return as fast, and it feels like you are riding the clutch.
But then again, also your tranny warms up, and so does the diff parts of your clutch kit. So it could be also any part of your clutch kit, or your tranny.

Tachyon, reread my above post, get someone out there with you; inspect your assy., inside your truck on the floorboard real closely, see if it is cracked anywhere at all. Then get underneath and have other person push in on the clutch , and out. your slave cyl, you should see the piston move about 1 to 2 inches, and the same for the fork attached to it. at a minimum, it sounds like your clutch kit is going bad, proly your tranny as well...

torquoise89 · 01-08-2010, 07:58 PM

all of this happened when i first got it and the slave was bad so i kept dumpin dot 3 in it but then, it worked fine, but one day going through town i ran it out and it wouldnt work. so i got some dot 3 and filled it up. still didnt work, got home (with no clutch) and bled it but still no clutch

RobD · 01-09-2010, 06:31 PM

I agree with the clutch bracket. Mine did the same thing, squeaked when you pressed the pedal down, gears hard to change.

They are a known weak spot. Look up under the dash and see if you can spot a small crack along the left side of the clutch bracket. It's tough to do and you'll probably want a mirror and a flashlight.

TORTIS · 01-09-2010, 06:36 PM

Clutch plate may have broke.

Schindele · 04-07-2010, 01:29 PM

I got a 1990 toyota pickup. recently i noticed that it was getting hard to shift into gear, it was really resistant. reverse went out, when i tried to put reverse in it would just grind. then later that day there was no resistance in my clutch. When i push my clutch in and try to put it into gear they wont go in but there is no grinding. when truck is turned off the gears go in. the only way to turn my truck on is to press the clutch button. can anyone help?

Bandaman · 04-07-2010, 02:21 PM

Read this thread below...cracked clutch bracket for me:

http://www.yotatech.com/f116/91-22re...oblems-203075/

01-05-2010, 01:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
SR5 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 638	oh and this happend while i was driving so to get it home i turned it off, put it into gear and used the start clutch cancel and held down the gas and off i went, i could shift into other gears, but it wasnt easy, i basicly just jamed them into gear, i know it was bad, but there was no way i was paying for a tow truck __________________ 1995 SR5 V6 4Runner SR5 Profile

01-05-2010, 01:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
Windsor Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: DFW, Texas! Posts: 974	have you checked the clutch master cyl? __________________ '87 T4R Deluxe, mall crawler every non-SR5 option installed (sans AT), as well as: * Cruise Control (dealer installed) * Michelin LTX A/T2 31s on 1st-gen alloy rims * SmittyBilt granny step bar * SR5 Instrument Cluster

01-05-2010, 01:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
thedanned Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 311	So is your clutch not disengaging all the way? When in gear with the clutch pushed in, the truck is still "in gear", like still moving forward? The squeal could be the throw out bearing or the pilot bearing. Pop open the inspection plate and have someone operate the clutch while you watch the clutch move and let us know what you find. __________________ 1989 4R 3VZ Manual 32X11.50 BFG AT Saggy Butt

01-05-2010, 01:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
89whitetoyota Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio - Amelia is the exact place. There is no one else on this site from where I am. Seems like everyone is from Cali or Washington. I guess I need to move. Posts: 622	had a similar issue and my pressure plate was cracked. does it get stuck in gear at all? Also check your slave cylinder for leaks too. __________________ John Stranko 89 Toyota Pickup - 22R-E - RIP (phone pole at 50mph) 1992 Ex Cab - 22re - 5spd American Racing 767's - 31x10.5 YOKO's

01-05-2010, 02:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
Kiroshu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: wade, NC Posts: 1,820	I'd say its time for a good clutch kit. __________________ "Why not stay OEM your truck will last longer?" "I love what you do for me Toyota." "Moving Forward." "If a yota can wiggle It ain't stuck." "No matter what you do that timing chain will beat the guidles(Dampers) 1v1." "(TTT) Toyota Tough Truck."

01-05-2010, 07:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
toad559 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: fresno Posts: 14	dude i got the ecaxt same problem! just now i posted it up. no one i know has a clue. i have the exact same problem. pm me or reply to my post on how you fix it or what is wrong. my truck was parked for a month and this morning i finaly decided to run it and it happened! lmk asap, thanks

01-07-2010, 08:15 PM	#12 (permalink)
torquoise89 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: prineville, OR Posts: 5	this happens to me all the time! but after i drive aroung for a while it is like perfectly fine

01-07-2010, 08:32 PM	#13 (permalink)
peow130 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 1,940	Generally this means you have a clutch going out... orrr, you cracked your firewall around your clutch pedal and your adjuster is way out of whack.. try playing with that. __________________ 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX. 30" Cooper Discoverer S/T's. 1" AAL lift and Tbar crank. and two KC HiLites. IFS Club #5 1978 Camaro Z28, 454 Big Block V8 with a 4 Speed.

01-07-2010, 08:59 PM	#14 (permalink)
torquoise89 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: prineville, OR Posts: 5	thanks, but why when i drive it does it act normal again?

01-07-2010, 09:02 PM	#15 (permalink)
peow130 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 1,940	You're warming up the clutch by letting it slip, it expands and then your stuff starts working again? I don't know, i'm just saying ideas. If it were me, i'd pull the tranny, clutch, pressure plate, and flywheel. Get a whole new clutch kit and get the flywheel resurfaced, and put it all back together. __________________ 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX. 30" Cooper Discoverer S/T's. 1" AAL lift and Tbar crank. and two KC HiLites. IFS Club #5 1978 Camaro Z28, 454 Big Block V8 with a 4 Speed.

01-08-2010, 06:24 AM	#16 (permalink)
rangerruck Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 541	am right now just finished going through the EXACT SAME THING.... you will need a new clutch kit, and a tranny rebuild. You allready did the slave which is good, unless it is chinese made, then it will fail, and proly within the first month, I think mine has, as it is feeling like I am ' riding the clutch' a bit now. But everything else, was still needed, a whole new clutch kit assy., and a tranny rebuild. So you might as well get busy, or start saving up some money. I have one of the best tranny shops in the country down here, and all the parts came to about 550 bucks, it is the labor that is gonna get you. so if you get underneath, and have someone push the clutch, and the fork moves fine, and you look inside the cab, and the bracket around the clutchrod is not cracked anywhere, then you know what you are gonna have to do ... Last edited by rangerruck; 01-08-2010 at 06:27 AM.

01-08-2010, 08:26 AM	#17 (permalink)
Tachyon1990 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1	my toyota wont go into gear. I tried climbing a mountain with my truck and when i was headed up there were some spots where i got stuck and had to throw it into reverse and then first, i kept repeating tell i got over the part i got stuck well i got to a spot and threw it into reverse then when i went to get into first gear it went in easy but it wouldn't move. now with the truck started i can put the stick into each gear spot without holding the clutch. ( not suppose to be able to do that) and soo i feel like its stuck in neutral and wont go into gear with or without the clutch. can anybody help me out with this? oh yeah and when im playing with the stick the gears arnt grinding like they usually do.

01-08-2010, 06:09 PM	#19 (permalink)
torquoise89 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: prineville, OR Posts: 5	i pulled my floor mat from under the clutch pedal and its shifts fine cold, but when its warm its back to not shifting.

01-08-2010, 07:36 PM	#20 (permalink)
rangerruck Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 541	turquoise; you have at least one prob; you slave cyl sounds like it could be a prob, or the fork, as the slave can start out fine when cold then when it warms up, the piston does not return as fast, and it feels like you are riding the clutch. But then again, also your tranny warms up, and so does the diff parts of your clutch kit. So it could be also any part of your clutch kit, or your tranny. Tachyon, reread my above post, get someone out there with you; inspect your assy., inside your truck on the floorboard real closely, see if it is cracked anywhere at all. Then get underneath and have other person push in on the clutch , and out. your slave cyl, you should see the piston move about 1 to 2 inches, and the same for the fork attached to it. at a minimum, it sounds like your clutch kit is going bad, proly your tranny as well... Last edited by rangerruck; 01-08-2010 at 07:40 PM.

01-08-2010, 07:58 PM	#21 (permalink)
torquoise89 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: prineville, OR Posts: 5	all of this happened when i first got it and the slave was bad so i kept dumpin dot 3 in it but then, it worked fine, but one day going through town i ran it out and it wouldnt work. so i got some dot 3 and filled it up. still didnt work, got home (with no clutch) and bled it but still no clutch

01-09-2010, 06:31 PM	#22 (permalink)
RobD Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 2,107	I agree with the clutch bracket. Mine did the same thing, squeaked when you pressed the pedal down, gears hard to change. They are a known weak spot. Look up under the dash and see if you can spot a small crack along the left side of the clutch bracket. It's tough to do and you'll probably want a mirror and a flashlight. __________________ 1991 4Runner, 3.4 5VZFE swap, OME shocks/springs, 33" BFG All Terrain T/A KOs, Pioneer head unit, Infinity speakers, XM Satellite radio Thanks to all those who voted on my behalf for my attempt to win the 2010 4Runner Trail Edition http://4runner.ca/en/contest/entries.../4bb3cb25f167b

01-09-2010, 06:36 PM	#23 (permalink)
TORTIS Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: shreveport, La Posts: 1,370	Clutch plate may have broke. __________________ 89 Truck X-tra Cab LCE Timing Chain LCE Header 31'' Maxxis Buckshot 4.88's built by ZUK(the mind reader) Aussie Locker Front and Rear 63'' Chevy Springs Marlin HD Clutch Bilstein HD Shocks 2.5" Exhaust W/Dynomax Muffler 2-50 Watt Backup Lights

04-07-2010, 01:29 PM	#24 (permalink)
Schindele Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1	I got a 1990 toyota pickup. recently i noticed that it was getting hard to shift into gear, it was really resistant. reverse went out, when i tried to put reverse in it would just grind. then later that day there was no resistance in my clutch. When i push my clutch in and try to put it into gear they wont go in but there is no grinding. when truck is turned off the gears go in. the only way to turn my truck on is to press the clutch button. can anyone help?

04-07-2010, 02:21 PM	#25 (permalink)
Bandaman Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 23	Read this thread below...cracked clutch bracket for me: http://www.yotatech.com/f116/91-22re...oblems-203075/

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