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Old 05-05-2008, 11:47 AM
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timing chain ?'s

quick question, engnbldr has timing kit with cover and one with oil pump. so you either get a timing chain kit with a replacement cover, or one with an oil pump? you wouldn't want one that comes with both?
about how long did it take you guys to do this job?
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timing chain takes anywhere from 2-4 hours depending on skills and any pain in the #$@ bolts. New oil pump and timing cover would be nice but truth is... you probably don't need either unless you have poor oil pressure or your timing chain has been rattling for a while causing guides to break. then the chain rubs the cover eventually causing hole.
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X2 on what cutbogger said. If you pull the head it will take 2 days to change.
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I Leave the head on and drop the oil pan down as much as possable(pending on lift) It's still a tight fit and a mess (silicone) putting together.
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A- You should be able to order the timing chain kit by itself. When in doubt, call them.

B- If your changing the timing chain, I'd replace the timining cover while your at it.

C- Whens the last time your H20 or oil pump where replaced? Could replace both while your doing your timing chain.
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i used the kit w/ steel guide and new cover and put a new oil pump and water pump on there. (might as well do as much as you can afford while youre in there)
i did a head swap as well so it took me a whole weekend to do everything
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I'm in the middle of mine right now, would of taken me a weekend if i didn't have to wait for a new cover. My guides were all trashed so my chain tried to eat its way out. I decided to drop the oil pan which was a pain in the ass but worth it because I removed a handful of old guides from the pan. It's not a hard job, just time consuming the first time. I've replaced everything and bought all my parts from 1sttoyotaparts.com and saved more then a grand then buying from the dealer, plus the more then 2 g's for labor.
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My '91 chain ate the timing cover. Call me cheap but I was on a budget and had 2 days- saturday and sunday, and no transportation to chase down parts, to fix it.... After about and hour and a half with some acetone, JB weld and a Dremel (all of which I had laying around) and that timing cover was back to normal. I took the acetone and cleaned the grooves up nice and clean, used the dremel and ground down the chain and water pump sides 'flat' since the chain built up some ridges and filled in the grooves (and then some) with a few 'thin' coats of JB weld. Then I dremel'd the JB weld down on the pump and chain sides back to flat again.
Almost 10,000 miles on it and no sign of leakage.
The kit I bought had new gaskets, oil pump gears, crank and cam sprockets, (sic) plastic guides and chain adjuster so I threw them in there. It was about 80 bucks for the kit. Yeah, I'll be changing it out again before I hit 100,000 on the kit but I was under pressure. I'll prolly be rebuiding the engine by then anyways so new everything.
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thanks guys, i appreciate the info
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