gametom

ok i hoped i could find this by searching but i had no luck i have a 22re 5speed with 4.10 gears and i don't have to money to have new gears installed can i take a third member out of a auto trans 4runner and swap it for mine to get 4.88 gears. the other part of this is do i need one from a 22re or are they the same for the 4 to the 6

Thanks

fillsrunner4

the V6 is a stronger unit and can be installed into your 8" 4cly rear. you will need to match the gears up front though. unless you never use 4wd. if not youll destroy your gears and posibly transfecase.

MudHippy

Yes, you can swap them. The difference between them that would need addressed is where the driveshaft bolts up. The companion flanges have different bolt hole patterns for 4cyl and V6. The front axles have exactly the same driveshafts for both, so it's no issue there.

If it's a V6 3rd member you'll need to put your 4cyl companion flange on it, or drill new holes for your 4cyl driveshaft bolts.

I actually have a 4cyl 3rd member with the companion flange from my V6 3rd member on it so it's bolts to my V6 driveshaft. I do have a V6 pickup, but there are advantages to this supposed "downgrade" IMO.

fillsrunner4

could always order a triple drilled flange from marlin for that if your not comfotable drilling the holes

gametom

what would i have to swap from the front the diff or is it more complicated than that

gametom

Which triple drilled flange do i need marlin has 3 listed

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olharleyman

I have a complete set front a.d.d and rear 4.10 v6 matched if you want to spend 250 and shipping then you only need to swap them out and worry about the rear flange for the driveline.

gametom

but i want the 4.88 gears

MudHippy

Nothing. Just swap it in.

You can bolt any 86-95 IFS front axle onto any 86-95 IFS pickup or 4Runner. No differences except ADD vs Non-ADD, and both will fit in place of the other. The 86-95 IFS front driveshafts are all identical shape/size, have the same bolt pattern, and will bolt to any 7.5" differential.

mehret

I only see one.

Triple Drilled Flanges
# Our Marlin Crawler Triple Drilled Flanges are specially designed to fit the following Toyota bolt patterns: 1963-8/69 FJ40, 1979-83 Hilux, 64mm x 56mm x 8mm
# 1984+ Pickup, 60mm x 60mm x 10mm (non-CV)
# 1986-87 Turbo, 1988+ V6, FJ60, 66mm x 66mm x 11mm
Bolt on installation with machined seal surface.

Add To Shopping Cart MC-14661, Triple Drilled Differential Flange, $35

If that's what you're talking about, he's telling you that it's meant for those models.

MudHippy

This one. MC-14661, Triple Drilled Differential Flange


Found here: http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/diff/pickup_diff.htm

MudHippy

Also MC-14660, (Triple Drilled)Transfer Case Flange

The Triple Drilled Differential Flange(MC-14661)fits ANY Toyota 8" differential, as the drive pinions for each all have the same spline count.

BLKNBLU

iTrader: (1)

One other thing to keep in mind. If you are getting thirds with FACTORY 4.88's the 8inch diff (rear) will only take Toyota gears, so you will want to be sure they are in good shape.

fillsrunner4

if you want to make 100% sure you get the right flange just give them a call. they will help you get the right one

gametom

last thein is there any way to test the gears or is it all by eye tell the condition of used gears

BLKNBLU

iTrader: (1)

Are you going to be able to see and touch these gears? i.e. Will the thirds be out of the vehicle and you can closely examine them? If they are out, you can spin everything and make sure it is smooth. Feel for slop both rotationally and sideways. Broken teeth would be obvious. Also look for excessively shiny spots. You can also count the teeth (at least of the ring) to make sure its a 4.88. Also check in with YT member Zuk for expert info. Good luck.

chroad

I did this swap recently to get 4.56 gears. I have a 95 truck w/ 22re and formerly 4.10's. I used the front from an ADD equipped 4Runner I pulled from the junkyard, and I used a rear third that I purchased from Jarco in Canton, Georgia, which came from a JDM Surf. Obviously, I did not have ADD and was not wild about having the front diff/axle have the ADD equipment on there. So, I took the driver's side axle shaft and tube off of my 4.10 diff and put it onto the *new* 4.56 diff. Viola! Non-ADD equipped 4.56 front third and axle.

In the rear, I just pulled my third and bolted the new third in (well, I had to pull the axle shafts out, but that is easy... the manual gives good instruction on how to do this). It shouldn't matter if you pull a third from an ABS equipped vehicle or not because you don't have ABS so you don't need to hook anything up.

The V6 housing is supposed to be stronger than the 4cyl and has 4-pinion spider gears, so that is a benefit.

Mudhippy, when I put in the rear third, I didn't have to do a companion flange swap. Everything bolted up fine and I've had no problems. Also, what are the advantages to the "downgrade"? I've only heard of the advantages of upgrading to the V6 for housing strength and the 4-pinion, and I had never heard to swap out the companion flange before. Any insight?

gametom

I'm most likely going to a u pull it place since runners are hard to find and trucks are almost impossible to find in the junk yards

chroad

There are two guys local to Birmingham who probably have 4.88's on hand--both focus on Toyota's. One guy will want to charge you $600, and I know he's got them on hand, but he's a crackhead and a touch rude. The other guy probably has them and would be more reasonable, but I don't know exactly what. Point is, if you have trouble finding the 4.88's and can pay shipping on top of the parts, let me know and I might be able to help.

BLKNBLU

iTrader: (1)

If he's really a crackhead and you can catch him at just the right time, he might unload those diffs for $40 or so.