Spare tire lift - part 1 complete, need HELP with part 2!

tc · 12-31-2005, 10:07 AM

I could not lower the spare from under the truck - 12 yrs of Ohio winter salt I guess took its toll! I searched and got a lot of ideas how to get the tire out so I could get to the lift mechanism.

Part 1: Get the tire out of there so you can work on the lift mechanism:
What I ended up doing was jack a 2x4 across the tire to add a little pressure then let out the air. Jack it up some more which will allow a VERY LITTLE amount of play in the holder. Pry it out of one of the lug nut holes and try and get it to one side of the hub hole in the rim. Some posts said you could get enough slack to weasel the holder loose - all I could do was get it to one side. Sawzall the cable with an 18tpi blade. Let the jack down with the now free tire.

Part 2: Get the old lift mechanism out.
There are two kinds of lifts - one where you angle the bar towards the driver's side (uses a cable to lift the tire), and another where you go straight in (uses a chain to lift the tire). Mine is the angled/cable type. The first thing I did was get the shaft that connects the gear box to the lift out. It is secured with bolts on each end. 7mm nut and then beat/pry the bolt out.

OK - here's where I'm stuck. Next step is to get the old pieces out. They are bolted from the top with what appear to be captive square nuts on the bottom. It is VERY tight up on top , I can't get a socket on it, just an end wrench, and there is little swing to get a cheater or anything on it. Any ideas? Time for the blue wrench (torch)?

The new lift is the straight in kind (got for $0 from a guy at work!). I am rather encouraged, because it's the gearbox off to the side that is rusted solid, not the lift itself - it actually runs relatively smoothly.

I assume the parts that hang down will have to be removed also for me to fit a bigger tire under there. Anyone put a 33x10.50 under a 2nd gen?

Pix attached, 'cuz I know you'd ask! LOL (Also, it will show how lucky you guys who don't have salt are)

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Flamedx4 · 12-31-2005, 12:12 PM

Ouch. Salt sucks.
No help here, just showin support.

Mine worked fine, and when I removed it (it's essentially useless with 35s and a body lift) it came right out, no rust whatsomeever. I had plenty of room above for wrenches because of the body lift.

blkntan · 12-31-2005, 01:14 PM

Wow... I'm actually doing the same thing on a friends 90. I just got the tire off, but the wet weather has slowed me down. Please keep us updated. (BTW - her's is the chain lift)

tc · 12-31-2005, 03:25 PM

Thanks for the support fellas...

I was thinking - since I'm going from the "back" side, what if I took a drill bit and tried to spin the screw out like using an easy-out?

hosh · 12-31-2005, 09:26 PM

I've drilled quite a few bolts and the drill thing usually dosn't work. but you can drill it close to size and then knock them off.

tc · 01-02-2006, 05:05 PM

Drilling them out worked like a charm. Started with a small bit, and worked up to a 3/8". They don't appear to be hardened bolts - drilled pretty easy. Highly recommend a face mask - hot metal chips will be raining down on you!

woodworth · 01-02-2006, 05:53 PM

had the same problem, but didn't want it under there any more
(94 runner in massachusetts) so i teach drafting at a tech and had the
kids in welding make me a tire carrier w/ some old parts i had hanging around.
had an extra hitch, took out the ball and bolted the carrier to it. tilts down
to get the tailgate down. and this is temp since i'm going to have a swing out
one made attached to the bumper.

woody

Swissdrums · 01-03-2006, 07:03 AM

I just pulled mine out, grinded down all the rust, and re-greased, and re-panted it. It still works great, although i dont keep a spare.

12-31-2005, 12:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
Flamedx4 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: 100 miles offshore as much as possible, & Springfield Oregon USA Posts: 3,285	Ouch. Salt sucks. No help here, just showin support. Mine worked fine, and when I removed it (it's essentially useless with 35s and a body lift) it came right out, no rust whatsomeever. I had plenty of room above for wrenches because of the body lift. __________________ All my Yotas are gone. Stuff to sell: http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...39#post1009839 -Phil

12-31-2005, 03:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
tc Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 8,327	Thanks for the support fellas... I was thinking - since I'm going from the "back" side, what if I took a drill bit and tried to spin the screw out like using an easy-out? __________________ Check out www.coTTORA.org to hook up with great Toyota 'wheelin' folks! Current - 93 4Runner: 3VZ 33"x10.50" no lift ARB F/R 96 Impala SS: My own personal cop car Previous - 89 2WD Pickup 22R, Fabtech "Ivan Dan" lift, 31x10.50, IASCA World Finals 4th Place Stop with the mods and get on the trail! Pix at www.4wheelingoh.shutterfly.com/action Last edited by tc; 12-31-2005 at 03:36 PM.

12-31-2005, 09:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
hosh Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: skiatook ok Posts: 240	I've drilled quite a few bolts and the drill thing usually dosn't work. but you can drill it close to size and then knock them off. __________________ 95' 4runner -- sold 82' 4x4 -- organ donor for the 93 - but for now summertime playtoy 93' 4x4 extended cab --- Mods; buffalo dents- Future mods; SAS, 33"s, dual cases, motor rebuild 85' MR2 -- It Liiiiivvvveeeeessss!!!! and is almost on the road 87' EX500 -- basket case frankenbike "life, liberty and the pursuit of all those who threaten us"

01-02-2006, 05:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
tc Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 8,327	Drilling them out worked like a charm. Started with a small bit, and worked up to a 3/8". They don't appear to be hardened bolts - drilled pretty easy. Highly recommend a face mask - hot metal chips will be raining down on you! __________________ Check out www.coTTORA.org to hook up with great Toyota 'wheelin' folks! Current - 93 4Runner: 3VZ 33"x10.50" no lift ARB F/R 96 Impala SS: My own personal cop car Previous - 89 2WD Pickup 22R, Fabtech "Ivan Dan" lift, 31x10.50, IASCA World Finals 4th Place Stop with the mods and get on the trail! Pix at www.4wheelingoh.shutterfly.com/action

01-03-2006, 07:03 AM	#8 (permalink)
Swissdrums Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: No.Va. Posts: 361	I just pulled mine out, grinded down all the rust, and re-greased, and re-panted it. It still works great, although i dont keep a spare. __________________ 1994 Toyota 4Runner V6 Auto 4WD

12-31-2005, 01:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
blkntan Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 49	Wow... I'm actually doing the same thing on a friends 90. I just got the tire off, but the wet weather has slowed me down. Please keep us updated. (BTW - her's is the chain lift)

01-02-2006, 05:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
woodworth Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: new england Posts: 57	had the same problem, but didn't want it under there any more (94 runner in massachusetts) so i teach drafting at a tech and had the kids in welding make me a tire carrier w/ some old parts i had hanging around. had an extra hitch, took out the ball and bolted the carrier to it. tilts down to get the tailgate down. and this is temp since i'm going to have a swing out one made attached to the bumper. woody

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