Scuba's Manual Hub Rebuild

scuba · 10-26-2008, 02:33 PM

Well my kit from downey offroad finally came in friday, so yesterday morning I started my venture, today i am finishing up.

Heres some pics for everyones entertainment, And this isnt a write up persee, just some pics so everone can see.
Any questions feel free to ask or PM me

The Downey Offroad Kit comes with everything you need, I.e Gaskets and new hex bots for the face.
I know I could have sourced the gaskets but this was more simple and plus i got some more flare for my truck

Pass side hub, Dismantled

Driver side

Lots of brake cleaner is needed.

Some People also choose to soak there "guts" in mineral spirits, with none lying around i chose to skip this step.

Ewww

These next 2 are of the passenger side "follower pawl" It is pretty bent up so my search for a new one began yesterday.
Abe said he'll probably be going to a parts puller and said he'll see if he can snag me one, or the whole hub for cheap.

So the pass. side will remain "gutless" until i get a new one.

So While waiting for these to dry...

I went ahead and did some reading....

And after I read this part, which i knew was the case anyway...yeah i went and made sure mine was still there.
Surely it was

At the moment im still waiting on the paint to dry..
As said, any questions feel free to ask.
Comments and concerns are always welcome also

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scuba · 10-26-2008, 03:05 PM

Can someone tell me what im doing wrong...?
The one thats assembled will push the clutch out, but when i got to turn it back to free, it doesnt come back in...?

space-junk · 10-26-2008, 03:06 PM

Looks good... what color are you going to paint the selector??

BMC · 10-26-2008, 03:07 PM

Hey that looks like a bit calmer conditions to do a hub rebuild. At least u dont have 40 mile per winds with sand in everything. Looking good.

Mic09dcsm · 10-26-2008, 03:12 PM

The spring may be seated wrong. And I bought 300$ of Downey springs and u bolt flip kit and I didn't get no Goddamned sticker, fags.

scuba · 10-26-2008, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by space-junk

Looks good... what color are you going to paint the selector??

Selector is staying how it is, i dont have red paint lying around...

And BMC...yes, alot better conditions..although, i wouldnt mind some

right about now.

Anyone who has done...Can you point me in the right direction as to why the clutch will go from free to lock, but wont bring the clutch back in when you go to free..?

scuba · 10-26-2008, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mic09dcsm

The spring may be seated wrong. And I bought 300$ of Downey springs and u bolt flip kit and I didn't get no Goddamned sticker, fags.

lol, you gotta ask

scuba · 10-26-2008, 03:19 PM

Oh, and which spring are you speaking of...the big one, or little one, cause looking at the pictures, the little one is where it needs to be

scuba · 10-26-2008, 03:51 PM

Uploading another pic and vid as we speak....

scuba · 10-26-2008, 04:07 PM

thats the little spring...

and heres whats up...

scuba · 10-26-2008, 04:20 PM

So, i've succeeded in losing one of the ball bearings, wtf do i do now ?

EDIT: Found it, anyway, so after i switched out the ball bearing that looks like crap for one that looks perfect, its still not going back to free from lock.

HELP PLEASE ??!?

slacker · 10-26-2008, 04:36 PM

your spring is BROKEN !!!

there shouldnt be 2 pieces ...

scuba · 10-26-2008, 04:43 PM

corey, im sure its not broken, theres the little tension spring, and the big spring.

Refer to picture 1 in post one of the below linked write up....
top right theres the clutch, to the left of it is the tention spring which attaches the piece to the left of it which is the follower pawl to the clutch on the right.
Then the bigger spring.

http://forum.ih8mud.com/79-95-toyota...b-rebuild.html

So im confused....

slacker · 10-26-2008, 04:48 PM

there is only 1 spring on an ASIN hub .

I dont care what that says .. there is only 1 spring .

If you look closly at the spring ... you'll see where the 2 ends broke .

scuba · 10-26-2008, 04:58 PM

Not trying to be a pain buddy, and im sure you know your stuff, but do you care what the PDF says ??

http://personal.utulsa.edu/~nathan-b...14freewhee.pdf

And IF it is broken it doesnt make sense..
idk...

slacker · 10-26-2008, 05:02 PM

yeah .. opps .. MY MISTAKE !!

sorry

there are 2 springs .. it's been a while , sorry again .

check this thread .. might help more then me !!!! http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=281879

scuba · 10-26-2008, 05:05 PM

lol, I was scared that was going to be the straw that made you angry...
Anyway, ill take a look at that, and try and figure this out...
im getting erked, and running outta sunlight.

Thanks

And, if anyone has ever had this problem, please let me know what you did to remedy it

slacker · 10-26-2008, 05:06 PM

even in my own build , I can see 2 springs .. sorry , I'm an idiot !!

**waskillywabbit** · 10-26-2008, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scuba

Can someone tell me what im doing wrong...?
The one thats assembled will push the clutch out, but when i got to turn it back to free, it doesnt come back in...?

Is this with it installed in the hubs assembly or just the dial/face/spring/clutch in your hand?

Here is how it should go together.

The blue circled piece inserts through that slot with the little wound "spring" next to the dial.

The flat side of the big spring goes against the pawl, not the dial.

Hold the dial, insert the blue circle in the slot following the blue arrow and then twist the pawl tight up on the dial compressing the big spring.

Too much grease and things won't work. If assembled correctly you can hear the pawl moving in and out when you turn free to lock.

You should have gone WabFab instead of Downey for your Aisin hub needs...my stuff looks much better when you get it all assembled...those Downey bolts are cheap looking.

scuba · 10-26-2008, 05:14 PM

hah, no worries.

And after reading the pirate thread nothing seems to be of problem....wtf

Im contemplating sending the to the wabbit.
but id like to avoid that since i bought the gaskets and the kit from downey.

im angry, last night sucked, today has been pretty ghey, and the ex woman is being stupid...I told her..."im still in no mood for your rubbish"
El Oh El.

Anyway, /rant.
Time for some self medication.
*popped tab*

scuba · 10-26-2008, 05:17 PM

you read my mind wabb, I hope you know that was me that emailed you about the follower pawl.

Anyway, Yes this not going back in deal is with face and dial and clutch assembled in my hand, should i try putting it in the hub ?

scuba · 10-26-2008, 05:24 PM

BALLER!!!

Get it going, inserted it into the hub body and it locks and unlocks properly.
Locked the splines will not move, Free they do.

Safe to say ive go it ?

abecedarian · 10-26-2008, 05:27 PM

looks like I'll be hitting the wrecking yards tomorrow sometimes. I'll see what I can come up with.

**waskillywabbit** · 10-26-2008, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scuba

you read my mind wabb, I hope you know that was me that emailed you about the follower pawl.

Anyway, Yes this not going back in deal is with face and dial and clutch assembled in my hand, should i try putting it in the hub ?

It won't work in your hand...that is the problem...I mean it will but not sure how to explain it to you to test it.

scuba · 10-26-2008, 05:36 PM

well all is good, bout to grease it up and get it in there

10-26-2008, 03:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
scuba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WHEELIN BIG BEAR Posts: 6,956	Wtf ?! Can someone tell me what im doing wrong...? The one thats assembled will push the clutch out, but when i got to turn it back to free, it doesnt come back in...? __________________ Screw you guys I'm goin to TTORA

10-26-2008, 03:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
Mic09dcsm Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Antonio Posts: 530	The spring may be seated wrong. And I bought 300$ of Downey springs and u bolt flip kit and I didn't get no Goddamned sticker, fags. __________________ "I love my 4Runner. Everyone else in my condo hates it! I guess it looks bad next to there brand new 20 or 30 thousand dollar cars that will die before my $600 Yota does, and probably before they're even done paying their cars off!" -Steveycapri Whips: '92 Xtra Cab Dlx V6, '94 Dlx I4 5spd. Camry. 98% of the teenage population will try, does, or has tried smoking pot. If you're one of the 2% who hasn't, copy and paste this into your sig. NOTE: To find the 2%...I'm the other 98%.

10-26-2008, 03:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
scuba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WHEELIN BIG BEAR Posts: 6,956	Oh, and which spring are you speaking of...the big one, or little one, cause looking at the pictures, the little one is where it needs to be __________________ Screw you guys I'm goin to TTORA

10-26-2008, 03:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
scuba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WHEELIN BIG BEAR Posts: 6,956	Uploading another pic and vid as we speak.... __________________ Screw you guys I'm goin to TTORA

10-26-2008, 04:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
scuba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WHEELIN BIG BEAR Posts: 6,956	So, i've succeeded in losing one of the ball bearings, wtf do i do now ? EDIT: Found it, anyway, so after i switched out the ball bearing that looks like crap for one that looks perfect, its still not going back to free from lock. HELP PLEASE ??!? __________________ Screw you guys I'm goin to TTORA Last edited by scuba; 10-26-2008 at 04:32 PM.

10-26-2008, 03:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
BMC Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Carmel CA - Vacaville CA Posts: 219	Hey that looks like a bit calmer conditions to do a hub rebuild. At least u dont have 40 mile per winds with sand in everything. Looking good.

10-26-2008, 04:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
slacker Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Canada Posts: 2,078	your spring is BROKEN !!! there shouldnt be 2 pieces ... __________________ 86 4x4 , fiberglass bed , 1/2 doors , hood ... more to come . 84 2WD "hotrod" Intercooled 7MGTE 83 Trekker SR5 CURRENT BUILD My home page MY PAGE 2WD fourm I frequent NEW Trekker forum Last edited by slacker; 10-26-2008 at 04:42 PM.

10-26-2008, 04:43 PM	#13 (permalink)
scuba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WHEELIN BIG BEAR Posts: 6,956	corey, im sure its not broken, theres the little tension spring, and the big spring. Refer to picture 1 in post one of the below linked write up.... top right theres the clutch, to the left of it is the tention spring which attaches the piece to the left of it which is the follower pawl to the clutch on the right. Then the bigger spring. http://forum.ih8mud.com/79-95-toyota...b-rebuild.html So im confused.... __________________ Screw you guys I'm goin to TTORA

10-26-2008, 04:48 PM	#14 (permalink)
slacker Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Canada Posts: 2,078	there is only 1 spring on an ASIN hub . I dont care what that says .. there is only 1 spring . If you look closly at the spring ... you'll see where the 2 ends broke . __________________ 86 4x4 , fiberglass bed , 1/2 doors , hood ... more to come . 84 2WD "hotrod" Intercooled 7MGTE 83 Trekker SR5 CURRENT BUILD My home page MY PAGE 2WD fourm I frequent NEW Trekker forum Last edited by slacker; 10-26-2008 at 04:52 PM.

10-26-2008, 04:58 PM	#15 (permalink)
scuba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WHEELIN BIG BEAR Posts: 6,956	Not trying to be a pain buddy, and im sure you know your stuff, but do you care what the PDF says ?? http://personal.utulsa.edu/~nathan-b...14freewhee.pdf And IF it is broken it doesnt make sense.. idk... __________________ Screw you guys I'm goin to TTORA

10-26-2008, 05:02 PM	#16 (permalink)
slacker Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Canada Posts: 2,078	yeah .. opps .. MY MISTAKE !! sorry there are 2 springs .. it's been a while , sorry again . check this thread .. might help more then me !!!! http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=281879 __________________ 86 4x4 , fiberglass bed , 1/2 doors , hood ... more to come . 84 2WD "hotrod" Intercooled 7MGTE 83 Trekker SR5 CURRENT BUILD My home page MY PAGE 2WD fourm I frequent NEW Trekker forum

10-26-2008, 05:05 PM	#17 (permalink)
scuba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WHEELIN BIG BEAR Posts: 6,956	lol, I was scared that was going to be the straw that made you angry... Anyway, ill take a look at that, and try and figure this out... im getting erked, and running outta sunlight. Thanks And, if anyone has ever had this problem, please let me know what you did to remedy it __________________ Screw you guys I'm goin to TTORA

10-26-2008, 05:06 PM	#18 (permalink)
slacker Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Canada Posts: 2,078	even in my own build , I can see 2 springs .. sorry , I'm an idiot !! __________________ 86 4x4 , fiberglass bed , 1/2 doors , hood ... more to come . 84 2WD "hotrod" Intercooled 7MGTE 83 Trekker SR5 CURRENT BUILD My home page MY PAGE 2WD fourm I frequent NEW Trekker forum

10-26-2008, 05:14 PM	#20 (permalink)
scuba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WHEELIN BIG BEAR Posts: 6,956	hah, no worries. And after reading the pirate thread nothing seems to be of problem....wtf Im contemplating sending the to the wabbit. but id like to avoid that since i bought the gaskets and the kit from downey. im angry, last night sucked, today has been pretty ghey, and the ex woman is being stupid...I told her..."im still in no mood for your rubbish" El Oh El. Anyway, /rant. Time for some self medication. popped tab __________________ Screw you guys I'm goin to TTORA

10-26-2008, 05:17 PM	#21 (permalink)
scuba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WHEELIN BIG BEAR Posts: 6,956	you read my mind wabb, I hope you know that was me that emailed you about the follower pawl. Anyway, Yes this not going back in deal is with face and dial and clutch assembled in my hand, should i try putting it in the hub ? __________________ Screw you guys I'm goin to TTORA

10-26-2008, 05:24 PM	#22 (permalink)
scuba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WHEELIN BIG BEAR Posts: 6,956	BALLER!!! Get it going, inserted it into the hub body and it locks and unlocks properly. Locked the splines will not move, Free they do. Safe to say ive go it ? __________________ Screw you guys I'm goin to TTORA

10-26-2008, 05:36 PM	#25 (permalink)
scuba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WHEELIN BIG BEAR Posts: 6,956	well all is good, bout to grease it up and get it in there __________________ Screw you guys I'm goin to TTORA

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