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Old 05-13-2008, 08:43 AM
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saggin in the rear

Hello again... I just purchased a 95 Toyota 4Runner 4x4 and as most do, it has the notorious rear end sag going on...... Can someone help me and tell me the least expensive way to raise the rear back to level? I have heard a few different ways but nothing in detail.. My buddy has a 69 mustang that sagged and he put some air adjust shocks to the rear and can raise and lowere to any level very easily...I like that idea but havent had any luck finding the pair that fit...Any suggestions?

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Not the cheapest but the proper way to do it
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f128...4runner-76341/

Also I'll tell you what I tell all the noobs check out the search feature. A quick search for the word sagging yielded 888 threads in less than a second. This topic has been discussed many many many times.
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thanks for the link and helpful hints!! Much appreciated!
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Welcome to the wonderful world of Toyota Saggy butts. I have had 5 Toyota trucks over the last 22 years. My first, an '86 4Runner I purchased new sagged with in a year. Toyota has never gotten the springs right on the their trucks. My beater tercel seems to be ok though--go figure...

Good luck with your 4Runner and welcome to YT...
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hey guys-

I am looking into airbags for my rear suspension.. I have been told they handle well and FIX THE SAG in the rear... I am loking at the AIRLIFT 1000 kit, pretty inexpensive compared to other alternatives. CAn anyone verify I Will get a couple of inches lift with inner coil airbags?

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Originally Posted by yota4life6
hey guys-

I am looking into airbags for my rear suspension.. I have been told they handle well and FIX THE SAG in the rear... I am loking at the AIRLIFT 1000 kit, pretty inexpensive compared to other alternatives. CAn anyone verify I Will get a couple of inches lift with inner coil airbags?

thanks as always
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thats what i have in mine and it works great...at 80 bucks or so you cant beat it, takes a little to install but a 6 pack of beer and a couple tools and you'll get it....
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Originally Posted by yota4life6
hey guys-

I am looking into airbags for my rear suspension.. I have been told they handle well and FIX THE SAG in the rear... I am loking at the AIRLIFT 1000 kit, pretty inexpensive compared to other alternatives. CAn anyone verify I Will get a couple of inches lift with inner coil airbags?

thanks as always
neal
you could always do what i did and get new shackles, actually i just ended up getting only the plates and rebuilding mine with the longer plates. www.wabfab.com go there and check them out. much cheaper and easier to do. $28 shipped for the 6in shackles wich is probably what you need.

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Originally Posted by 86blue4runner
you could always do what i did and get new shackles, actually i just ended up getting only the plates and rebuilding mine with the longer plates. www.wabfab.com go there and check them out. much cheaper and easier to do. $28 shipped for the 6in shackles wich is probably what you need.
He has a 2nd gen 4Runner which has coil springs in the rear, not leafs.

As for the sagging rear. Throw in some Downeys or OME's and call it a day. Air bags are a good choice for some depending on your vehicle use.

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Originally Posted by UKMyers
Not the cheapest but the proper way to do it
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f128...4runner-76341/

Also I'll tell you what I tell all the noobs check out the search feature. A quick search for the word sagging yielded 888 threads in less than a second. This topic has been discussed many many many times.
x2 on both points.

This topic has been discussed more times than any of us would like to even think about.

I got the Downey's on my '95 ages ago and they were awesome...couldn't have asked for a better setup.

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Originally Posted by Godzilla
He has a 2nd gen 4Runner which has coil springs in the rear, not leafs.

As for the sagging rear. Throw in some Downeys or OME's and call it a day. Air bags are a good choice for some depending on your vehicle use.
wow. i just now caught that. my bad.
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Originally Posted by 76ANTHONY
thats what i have in mine and it works great...at 80 bucks or so you cant beat it, takes a little to install but a 6 pack of beer and a couple tools and you'll get it....
I've wondered how the air bags work as a long term solution. I mean, they were designed to offset heavy loads....relieve the coils of the heavy stress....but, only under those temporary conditions.

How long have you had yours and do you have them inflated 100% of the time?
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That would be SWEET to see some shackles put on a 2nd gen. 4runner LOL
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I threw firestone "air-mount isolators" in (part #w01-358-3400). They're basically a heavy duty air spring meant for holding up vibration sensitive equipment. As such you can tune your ride by adjusting the pressure in your bags(adjusting the pressure changes which vibration frequency is attenuated and how much). It's only been in about 2 months now, so I haven't had much playtime with them, but I've had them off-road quite a few times (through the mud to the fishing hole, and some really light rock crawling) As someone suggested above, you notice the biggest difference when it's loaded, 35 lbs of air hauling 6 bags of grass(about 60 lbs a piece), a lawnmower(about 70 lbs), power rake(upwards of 200 lbs) , and all the other lawn tools I could fit in the back(75 to 100 lbs), and it feels like you're driving around on pillows. If i remember right the rear end (leafs don't forget, it's an 89) cost me in the neighbourhood of $600 or so, but I work at a distributor for the air-mounts.
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Originally Posted by thook
I've wondered how the air bags work as a long term solution. I mean, they were designed to offset heavy loads....relieve the coils of the heavy stress....but, only under those temporary conditions.

How long have you had yours and do you have them inflated 100% of the time?
I'VE had them 2 years and the guy before me had them for about 4 years, i keep them at 75 psi and they dont leak at all, the work really well. i've deflated them to 30psi and didnt like the saggy swaying rear end.
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I have the airlift 1000 kit and it works great! They've been on for 6 months and haven't lost any air - no sag. Pretty inexpensive route - compared to new coil springs.
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I just threw coils from all pro off road and they are reallly awesome. very consistant. I also put on some new shocks. Deosch Tech mv-12's. Rides great, really like it.
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I put some spacers in there (1.5") so I could retain my stock ride. Ordered air shocks to fit for heavier loads and when pulling my bike trailer. Haven't tried 'em yet, as the front end is under the knife. It was cheap and easy, once you wrestle the spacers in.
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I'm running a 1'' block for the time being.
Dont be like me
I'm only doing it temporarily because rebuilding the engine has made it tough to be able to afford new springs
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To give a little before and after, check this pic compared to my avatar...



PS- Don't pay attention to the cheesy rollers it's sitting on...

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nice!! how does it ride with the spacers? Easy to install?
Can you recommend a brand or website to check them out..?
thanks for the input QDUDE79
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