rpms and gas mileage

1990mudslut · 07-02-2009, 02:05 PM

hey all,I have a 1990 Toyota pickup with the v6 3.0 auto transmission and 4:10 gears.I have been running 31x10.5s for a while and made the bump today to 33x12.5s.I used to cruise around in o/d at around 2800-3000 rpm now its down to 2000-2500 rpm in o/d.My question is would it be more fuel efficiently to role in 4th gear with o/d off?

thanks

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Kiroshu · 07-02-2009, 02:42 PM

well ur rpms wne t down alittle due to the fact the truck has to pull alittle harder on thoose bigger tires. o/d is require for highway driving in automatics and is basically there for gasmileage reasons and so you can go higher speeds without running too high rpms and burning out ur tranny. just keeping driving it. its fine.

1990mudslut · 07-02-2009, 03:03 PM

well I mean I know all that but from what ive been reading the 3.0 gets best gas mileage around 3k rpms.so If i was to run in 4th with od off then i would be running around 3k rpms and technically should be getting be better gas mileage correct?

Tubbyfatty · 07-02-2009, 03:11 PM

Just regear to 4.88s, wait, you have an auto so 5.29s would be best.

Kiroshu · 07-02-2009, 03:13 PM

i know alot about the 3.0 but i've never heard that. Maybe its true but i've never heard 3k rpms for good gasmileage. If your cruising down the highway at 70mph the rpms are going to be close to 3k and being on the highway naturally will get good gasmileage on the highway. i've never heard that an i would not worry about it. My dads got a 3.0 and i've had 2 3.0's before and hes 3.0 gets about 200miles to the tank city driving. Dunno about highway its prolly about close to 300 highway. but his truck has 33 12.50s on a 3 inch bod lift and it shifts the same and has about the same gasmileage with the stock tires it had. Generally low rpms better gasmileage. Generally. just drive it its fine why are you getting terrible gasmileage or somethin?

Kiroshu · 07-02-2009, 03:14 PM

you could do a gear swap like this guy is suggesting and it would help with those bigger tires, but i deal with OEM so yea thats up to you...

Tubbyfatty · 07-02-2009, 03:17 PM

When you regear, you will gain your mpg back in town and on the hwy. you will also get your power back.

And your speedo is off a few miles per hour's with bigger tires and stock gears.

Junkers88 · 07-02-2009, 03:24 PM

I've always been told that if you can run your rig in or near the power band then you'll maximize the mpg (with normal driving) and have less wear on the running gear since the engine won't be struggling to stay at speed or over running (red line). I would say run it in 4th, o/d off, for a tank of fuel and see what it does.

The best bet is to regear but that can be either a pain (trying to find thirds in 5.29) or expensive (having your existing thirds set up with new gears). Sometimes it is both.......

1990mudslut · 07-02-2009, 03:36 PM

I just got the tires today and the truck is not sluggish feeling by any means at all to me.I will be driving it down to panama city Saturday and was just wondering what would be the best way to drive it.It will be receiving a 5speed transmission once I come back

I just went out and drove it again on the highway my speedo is 15mph exactly off the rpms in 5th gear is 1500 lol it will cruise along fine at that but on hills or slopes it drops to forth.

dutchboy · 07-02-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiroshu

i know alot about the 3.0 but i've never heard that. Maybe its true but i've never heard 3k rpms for good gasmileage. If your cruising down the highway at 70mph the rpms are going to be close to 3k and being on the highway naturally will get good gasmileage on the highway. i've never heard that an i would not worry about it. My dads got a 3.0 and i've had 2 3.0's before and hes 3.0 gets about 200miles to the tank city driving. Dunno about highway its prolly about close to 300 highway. but his truck has 33 12.50s on a 3 inch bod lift and it shifts the same and has about the same gasmileage with the stock tires it had. Generally low rpms better gasmileage. Generally. just drive it its fine why are you getting terrible gasmileage or somethin?

200 miles to a tank...in the city?
300 on the highway?
Lifted on bigger tires? I truley find your mileage per tank not to be true.
Dude...
I have a 3.0, 90 4runner,auto w/od...on stock tires,no engine or rig mods,at all and I only get a little over 200 miles per tank...on the highway!!!
I seriously doubt,that a 3.0 with bigger and wider tires gets better gas milage than a stock rig...or everyone would be slamming bigger tires on their rigs.

1990mudslut · 07-02-2009, 03:45 PM

h/o now dutchboy on my 31x10.5 bfg a/ts on 4:10 gears auto 3.0 I used to get right at 240 with a 50/50 mix of city and highway and keep in mind that my speedo was 8mph off so really and truly I would get more than 240 miles per tank.

also his trucks could have the 4.88 gears that came stock for 31s

dutchboy · 07-02-2009, 05:55 PM

"also his trucks could have the 4.88 gears that came stock for 31s"

Well, you are right. I didn't consider his gearing. Then again...he didn't mention what his gearing was.
But do you really think that with 4.88's he could get 300,with WIDER tires?
Like I said earlier,if his claim were right...why wouldn't we all be jamming oversize tires and gear swapping?
Everyone chimes in on this site,trying to get better fuel milage,and all of a sudden...here's a guy with oversize tires and "possibly" different gearing dusting us ull in milage?

I have the same set up as you and on highway alone...cruise control on,(I always have o/d engaged). I get roughly 230 per tank.
I'm thinking if I upgrade my O2 sensor (still fac. original), I'd pry do much better.

KVRunner · 07-02-2009, 06:00 PM

I am running 33X10.5 tires on 4.30 gears and I am getting a little over 200 miles in town. Stoplight every quarter of a mile. But then again I have a 5spd.

Kiroshu · 07-02-2009, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dutchboy

200 miles to a tank...in the city?
300 on the highway?
Lifted on bigger tires? I truley find your mileage per tank not to be true.
Dude...
I have a 3.0, 90 4runner,auto w/od...on stock tires,no engine or rig mods,at all and I only get a little over 200 miles per tank...on the highway!!!
I seriously doubt,that a 3.0 with bigger and wider tires gets better gas milage than a stock rig...or everyone would be slamming bigger tires on their rigs.

it might help to say that the motor in his truck is new and yes it gets about 200 miles to the tank no lie i don't know how but it does. maybe not quite 300 highway but close. I've had lots of 3.0's and they too average about 200 miels to the tank. I had a 5-speed 88 3.0 that got exactly 260 miles to the tank city driving.

BAMF_CT2004 · 07-02-2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 1990mudslut

.My question is would it be more fuel efficiently to role in 4th gear with o/d off?

thanks

this makes absolutely no sense. Its either you are in o/d or out of o/d

dutchboy · 07-02-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiroshu

it might help to say that the motor in his truck is new and yes it gets about 200 miles to the tank no lie i don't know how but it does. maybe not quite 300 highway but close. I've had lots of 3.0's and they too average about 200 miels to the tank. I had a 5-speed 88 3.0 that got exactly 260 miles to the tank city driving.

"i know alot about the 3.0"<<<
"yes it gets about 200 miles to the tank no lie i don't know how but it does"<<<

???? If you know alot about the 3.0's...how do you NOT know"?
I'd still like to know how you're even coming close to 300 on the highway...with taller and wider wheels!?

What rear gears?

260? City driving? Are you really serious? All that stop and go and 260 to a tank in the city? C'mon...

I sincerely don't mean to discredit you and what you are saying,but that just seems so...unreal.
Please forgive me,but that's just nuts to be able to do that good...on big tires,and yet no one else with big tires comes close to that kind of milage...let alone with stock size tires.
Again...what's the gear ratio in the rear?

So a manual gets better milage over an auto...in the city?
I'm just having a real hard time figuring this one out.
I'm averaging 190-200 city,230 highway on 31 x 9.5"s and I baby it. I never got my foot into heavily,I run with almost zero extra weight...I even keep her washed frequently to help with aerodynamics!!!

Kiroshu · 07-02-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dutchboy

I'd still like to know how you're even coming close to 300 on the highway...with taller and wider wheels!?

What rear gears?

260? City driving? Are you really serious? All that stop and go and 260 to a tank in the city? C'mon...

I sincerely don't mean to discredit you and what you are saying,but that just seems so...unreal.
Please forgive me,but that's just nuts to be able to do that good...on big tires,and yet no one else with big tires comes close to that kind of milage...let alone with stock size tires.
Again...what's the gear ratio in the rear?

So a manual gets better milage over an auto...in the city?
I'm just having a real hard time figuring this one out.
I'm averaging 190-200 city,230 highway on 31 x 9.5"s and I baby it. I never got my foot into heavily,I run with almost zero extra weight...I even keep her washed frequently to help with aerodynamics!!!

Ok i know your trippin and i really don't want to take over this guys thread but um vehicles are different. And so are the people who drive them. My dads 1990 3.0 3vze 4runner SR5 new motor 50k ago with 33 12.50's and a 2 inch bod lift does get about 200 miles city. Highways a lil more close to 300. If tuned right they will get good gas mileage. It does not have any gears its totaly stock except for the tires and lift and a K&N cold air intake. Yours may be deprived of something. Idle too high, dirty air filter, dirtly fuel filter, o2 sensor fouled, vac leaks. Its called fine tuning and care. TLC. I have had 2 3vze trucks myself. I had an auto 3.0 1995 model and it got about 200-210 gasmileage city, dunno bout highway. It was ran totally stock with 31's I also had a 1988 4runner SR5 3.0 3vze 5-speed. This truck was the best gas mileage truck i ever had i almost could not believe it my self man, as much as i could not believe it this truck got about 256-260 miles to the tank city driving. Fine tuned kept clean will take your truck all the way. For some reason most of the 3.0s i've had acctaully are not much differant if not better than 22r's. At least the ones i've had. It my be my trucks it may be ur i dunno. All i know is i'm not lying.

BAMF_CT2004 · 07-02-2009, 07:17 PM

i averaged about 20 to 21 mpg doing 65 drafting a tundra that was pulling a 55 on a trailer. and have an 88 v6 auto with 4.10s and 35x12.5.15 trxus mts and some body armour to help with wind resistance

btw my v6 has 3.4 liters

dutchboy · 07-02-2009, 07:25 PM

Well,I agree...I didn't mean to take over the thread with this issue,but...(final post). Respectfully,without others agreeing with what you state. Im convinced not to believe this 100%.I fully understand,"fine tuned". I do have automotive schooling and all my buds are gear head/pro drag car builders. I get it...believe me I do.
Stock gears!?
Their is just NO WAY...with larger tires,lifted,even fine tuned and the best driving skills,is not gonna get 300,per tank on any highway.
Once again...if that was the case...we'd all be doing it.
Brand new, a stock 3.0, in this specific rig,like mine...only averages 15-17mpg. Even when Yota 4runners came out in 90...they only got 15-17mpg. I never said that you were lying...but that's a whopper! I only say that because no one...no one on here(that I have seen) is getting the milage you are claiming.My rig isn't deprived of anything. No vac leaks...at all! Always clean air filter,always good plugs,wires,etc. I do need to change my O2 sensor,but again,...no one else on here gets the milage like you claim.
You must be driving downhill everywhere you go,with a much larger gas tank.

dutchboy · 07-02-2009, 07:29 PM

AMF CT2004...
Did you get 300 milers per tank on the highway?

BAMF_CT2004 · 07-02-2009, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dutchboy

AMF CT2004...
Did you get 300 milers per tank on the highway?

yeah about that roughly drafting. ohh and im only running one o2 sensor too.

Kiroshu · 07-02-2009, 07:40 PM

Most all 4runners first and sec gen have a 17gal tank correct. Lets say ur getting 15 mpg. thats about 255 miles to a tank. soo it is possible. i dunno how but it is. Urs is automatic and will get a few less miles to the gallon than a 5-speed. so... yea

dutchboy · 07-02-2009, 07:49 PM

:>)
"i dunno how but it is"
I'm starting to love this quote.
I'm-a-gonna use that on my gf tonight...hahahaha...
Gf: "Why does it hurt so much more tonight"
Me: "i dunno how but it is" hahaha...
Pssst...255 isn't 300. My apologies for stirring the part too hard. I am now watching my milage even closer than I ever was.
Have a great night Kiroshu!!!

BAMF_CT2004 · 07-02-2009, 07:52 PM

i think the 1st and 2nd gens have a 14 gallon tank. if not my tank is much more dented than i thought it was

dutchboy · 07-02-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BAMF_CT2004

i think the 1st and 2nd gens have a 14 gallon tank. if not my tank is much more dented than i thought it was

Btw...nice sig! I loved that movie!!!
P.S. 17 gal tanks.

07-02-2009, 02:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
Kiroshu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: wade, NC Posts: 1,226	well ur rpms wne t down alittle due to the fact the truck has to pull alittle harder on thoose bigger tires. o/d is require for highway driving in automatics and is basically there for gasmileage reasons and so you can go higher speeds without running too high rpms and burning out ur tranny. just keeping driving it. its fine. __________________ My current: 1986 Toyota 4runner SR5 EFI 4cyl 2.4L 22RE 5-Speed 242,000 Miles 95% Stock __________________ (Still working on restoring her) My old: 1988 Toyota 4runner SR5 EFI V6 3.0L 3VZ-E 5-Speed 302,000 Miles All stock (sold)______________ (Was my fastest truck i miss her...) My old: 1989 Toyota 4runner Non-SR5 EFI 4cyl 2.4L 22RE Automatic 231,000 Miles (sold)______________ (was my quietest and slowest yota.)

07-02-2009, 03:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
1990mudslut Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gray,GA Posts: 148	well I mean I know all that but from what ive been reading the 3.0 gets best gas mileage around 3k rpms.so If i was to run in 4th with od off then i would be running around 3k rpms and technically should be getting be better gas mileage correct? __________________ 1990 pickup ext sr5 v6 auto\|33x12.5x15 summit mud dawgs\|Mickey T classic II's\|3inch BL\|20 pounds of bondo\|3 shades of paint\|Yet its still kicking strong at 240k

07-02-2009, 03:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
Tubbyfatty Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hillsboro, OR Posts: 1,568	Just regear to 4.88s, wait, you have an auto so 5.29s would be best. __________________ 94 4runner / SR5 / 3vz-e / 5spd / 4x4 (duh) / Mudcat EXT 30x 9.5R15s / Marlin Crawler HD Clutch / ISR / Hella 700FFs 100w bulbs / 2 10'' JBL subs / ported sub box / kicker mono amp / Pioneer DEH-P490IB / sitting 1-1.5'' below factory, thanks butt sag...

07-02-2009, 03:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
Kiroshu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: wade, NC Posts: 1,226	i know alot about the 3.0 but i've never heard that. Maybe its true but i've never heard 3k rpms for good gasmileage. If your cruising down the highway at 70mph the rpms are going to be close to 3k and being on the highway naturally will get good gasmileage on the highway. i've never heard that an i would not worry about it. My dads got a 3.0 and i've had 2 3.0's before and hes 3.0 gets about 200miles to the tank city driving. Dunno about highway its prolly about close to 300 highway. but his truck has 33 12.50s on a 3 inch bod lift and it shifts the same and has about the same gasmileage with the stock tires it had. Generally low rpms better gasmileage. Generally. just drive it its fine why are you getting terrible gasmileage or somethin? __________________ My current: 1986 Toyota 4runner SR5 EFI 4cyl 2.4L 22RE 5-Speed 242,000 Miles 95% Stock __________________ (Still working on restoring her) My old: 1988 Toyota 4runner SR5 EFI V6 3.0L 3VZ-E 5-Speed 302,000 Miles All stock (sold)______________ (Was my fastest truck i miss her...) My old: 1989 Toyota 4runner Non-SR5 EFI 4cyl 2.4L 22RE Automatic 231,000 Miles (sold)______________ (was my quietest and slowest yota.)

07-02-2009, 03:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
Kiroshu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: wade, NC Posts: 1,226	you could do a gear swap like this guy is suggesting and it would help with those bigger tires, but i deal with OEM so yea thats up to you... __________________ My current: 1986 Toyota 4runner SR5 EFI 4cyl 2.4L 22RE 5-Speed 242,000 Miles 95% Stock __________________ (Still working on restoring her) My old: 1988 Toyota 4runner SR5 EFI V6 3.0L 3VZ-E 5-Speed 302,000 Miles All stock (sold)______________ (Was my fastest truck i miss her...) My old: 1989 Toyota 4runner Non-SR5 EFI 4cyl 2.4L 22RE Automatic 231,000 Miles (sold)______________ (was my quietest and slowest yota.)

07-02-2009, 03:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
Tubbyfatty Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Hillsboro, OR Posts: 1,568	When you regear, you will gain your mpg back in town and on the hwy. you will also get your power back. And your speedo is off a few miles per hour's with bigger tires and stock gears. __________________ 94 4runner / SR5 / 3vz-e / 5spd / 4x4 (duh) / Mudcat EXT 30x 9.5R15s / Marlin Crawler HD Clutch / ISR / Hella 700FFs 100w bulbs / 2 10'' JBL subs / ported sub box / kicker mono amp / Pioneer DEH-P490IB / sitting 1-1.5'' below factory, thanks butt sag... Last edited by Tubbyfatty; 07-02-2009 at 03:26 PM.

07-02-2009, 03:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
Junkers88 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Posts: 2,702	I've always been told that if you can run your rig in or near the power band then you'll maximize the mpg (with normal driving) and have less wear on the running gear since the engine won't be struggling to stay at speed or over running (red line). I would say run it in 4th, o/d off, for a tank of fuel and see what it does. The best bet is to regear but that can be either a pain (trying to find thirds in 5.29) or expensive (having your existing thirds set up with new gears). Sometimes it is both....... __________________ RB4R Life Member. 1989 SR5 4runner. Tread Wright 31/10.50/15's. 4.56 thirds, an Aussie in the @$$, Budbuilt plate, Marlin Crawler front, modified MC rear, Supra MAF conversion, ZUK coils in the rear and 4crawler BJ's in the front.

07-02-2009, 03:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
1990mudslut Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gray,GA Posts: 148	I just got the tires today and the truck is not sluggish feeling by any means at all to me.I will be driving it down to panama city Saturday and was just wondering what would be the best way to drive it.It will be receiving a 5speed transmission once I come back I just went out and drove it again on the highway my speedo is 15mph exactly off the rpms in 5th gear is 1500 lol it will cruise along fine at that but on hills or slopes it drops to forth. __________________ 1990 pickup ext sr5 v6 auto\|33x12.5x15 summit mud dawgs\|Mickey T classic II's\|3inch BL\|20 pounds of bondo\|3 shades of paint\|Yet its still kicking strong at 240k

07-02-2009, 03:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
1990mudslut Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gray,GA Posts: 148	h/o now dutchboy on my 31x10.5 bfg a/ts on 4:10 gears auto 3.0 I used to get right at 240 with a 50/50 mix of city and highway and keep in mind that my speedo was 8mph off so really and truly I would get more than 240 miles per tank. also his trucks could have the 4.88 gears that came stock for 31s __________________ 1990 pickup ext sr5 v6 auto\|33x12.5x15 summit mud dawgs\|Mickey T classic II's\|3inch BL\|20 pounds of bondo\|3 shades of paint\|Yet its still kicking strong at 240k

07-02-2009, 05:55 PM	#12 (permalink)
dutchboy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Land Of The Lollipop Kids (Lancaster,Pa). Posts: 271	"also his trucks could have the 4.88 gears that came stock for 31s" Well, you are right. I didn't consider his gearing. Then again...he didn't mention what his gearing was. But do you really think that with 4.88's he could get 300,with WIDER tires? Like I said earlier,if his claim were right...why wouldn't we all be jamming oversize tires and gear swapping? Everyone chimes in on this site,trying to get better fuel milage,and all of a sudden...here's a guy with oversize tires and "possibly" different gearing dusting us ull in milage? I have the same set up as you and on highway alone...cruise control on,(I always have o/d engaged). I get roughly 230 per tank. I'm thinking if I upgrade my O2 sensor (still fac. original), I'd pry do much better. __________________ 1990 4runner SR5 3.0 (3vz-e) All options. Bone stock. Automatic w/overdrive and cruise control. 232,000 miles. Oil pump replaced @ 186,000,head gaskets at 188,000. 15-17mpg. My girls.Lisse' & Jessi http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...SC00714200.jpg I AM LOOKING FOR THESE PART:Front passenger,inner fender.http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...00outlined.jpg MW 1990 Toyota 4Runner 4DR Road Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYTHIa6RNRA Last edited by dutchboy; 07-02-2009 at 05:58 PM.

07-02-2009, 06:00 PM	#13 (permalink)
KVRunner Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Kirksville, MO Posts: 205	I am running 33X10.5 tires on 4.30 gears and I am getting a little over 200 miles in town. Stoplight every quarter of a mile. But then again I have a 5spd. __________________ 1992 4Runner, 3.0 V6, 5 spd, 33X10.5X15 BFG MTs on factory wheels with no lift

07-02-2009, 07:25 PM	#19 (permalink)
dutchboy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Land Of The Lollipop Kids (Lancaster,Pa). Posts: 271	Well,I agree...I didn't mean to take over the thread with this issue,but...(final post). Respectfully,without others agreeing with what you state. Im convinced not to believe this 100%.I fully understand,"fine tuned". I do have automotive schooling and all my buds are gear head/pro drag car builders. I get it...believe me I do. Stock gears!? Their is just NO WAY...with larger tires,lifted,even fine tuned and the best driving skills,is not gonna get 300,per tank on any highway. Once again...if that was the case...we'd all be doing it. Brand new, a stock 3.0, in this specific rig,like mine...only averages 15-17mpg. Even when Yota 4runners came out in 90...they only got 15-17mpg. I never said that you were lying...but that's a whopper! I only say that because no one...no one on here(that I have seen) is getting the milage you are claiming.My rig isn't deprived of anything. No vac leaks...at all! Always clean air filter,always good plugs,wires,etc. I do need to change my O2 sensor,but again,...no one else on here gets the milage like you claim. You must be driving downhill everywhere you go,with a much larger gas tank. __________________ 1990 4runner SR5 3.0 (3vz-e) All options. Bone stock. Automatic w/overdrive and cruise control. 232,000 miles. Oil pump replaced @ 186,000,head gaskets at 188,000. 15-17mpg. My girls.Lisse' & Jessi http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...SC00714200.jpg I AM LOOKING FOR THESE PART:Front passenger,inner fender.http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...00outlined.jpg MW 1990 Toyota 4Runner 4DR Road Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYTHIa6RNRA Last edited by dutchboy; 07-02-2009 at 07:30 PM.

07-02-2009, 07:29 PM	#20 (permalink)
dutchboy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Land Of The Lollipop Kids (Lancaster,Pa). Posts: 271	AMF CT2004... Did you get 300 milers per tank on the highway? __________________ 1990 4runner SR5 3.0 (3vz-e) All options. Bone stock. Automatic w/overdrive and cruise control. 232,000 miles. Oil pump replaced @ 186,000,head gaskets at 188,000. 15-17mpg. My girls.Lisse' & Jessi http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...SC00714200.jpg I AM LOOKING FOR THESE PART:Front passenger,inner fender.http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...00outlined.jpg MW 1990 Toyota 4Runner 4DR Road Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYTHIa6RNRA

07-02-2009, 07:40 PM	#22 (permalink)
Kiroshu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: wade, NC Posts: 1,226	Most all 4runners first and sec gen have a 17gal tank correct. Lets say ur getting 15 mpg. thats about 255 miles to a tank. soo it is possible. i dunno how but it is. Urs is automatic and will get a few less miles to the gallon than a 5-speed. so... yea __________________ My current: 1986 Toyota 4runner SR5 EFI 4cyl 2.4L 22RE 5-Speed 242,000 Miles 95% Stock __________________ (Still working on restoring her) My old: 1988 Toyota 4runner SR5 EFI V6 3.0L 3VZ-E 5-Speed 302,000 Miles All stock (sold)______________ (Was my fastest truck i miss her...) My old: 1989 Toyota 4runner Non-SR5 EFI 4cyl 2.4L 22RE Automatic 231,000 Miles (sold)______________ (was my quietest and slowest yota.)

07-02-2009, 07:49 PM	#23 (permalink)
dutchboy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Land Of The Lollipop Kids (Lancaster,Pa). Posts: 271	:>) "i dunno how but it is" I'm starting to love this quote. I'm-a-gonna use that on my gf tonight...hahahaha... Gf: "Why does it hurt so much more tonight" Me: "i dunno how but it is" hahaha... Pssst...255 isn't 300. My apologies for stirring the part too hard. I am now watching my milage even closer than I ever was. Have a great night Kiroshu!!! __________________ 1990 4runner SR5 3.0 (3vz-e) All options. Bone stock. Automatic w/overdrive and cruise control. 232,000 miles. Oil pump replaced @ 186,000,head gaskets at 188,000. 15-17mpg. My girls.Lisse' & Jessi http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...SC00714200.jpg I AM LOOKING FOR THESE PART:Front passenger,inner fender.http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...00outlined.jpg MW 1990 Toyota 4Runner 4DR Road Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYTHIa6RNRA

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