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Old 04-05-2010, 05:58 PM
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replacing 88 4runner horn with 2k 4runner horns

hi,

i was hoping someone can help...

i replaced my wife's 2k 4runner horns with aftermarket ones and would like to use her old horns in my 88 4runner.

the 88 has a single horn with a single 2 wire connector.

the 2k has two horns with a single wire, single connector to each horn.

what are the two wires in the 88??? one ground and one power???

thanks.

joel
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the 2k horns use the bracket's for ground soo just find the hot wire on yours and add another wire and ur done
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How does the horn on the 2k sound? I'd be interested in doing this swap sometime, I hate the sound of the 2nd gen stock horn.
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If you have a two wire horn then its switched ground. The new horn is switched power with a mount ground.

You need to wire up a relay, I did this when I swapped to dual f150 horns.

Check the tech section writeup to find out what wires need to go where on the relay.
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Airhorns FTW!!!!!!
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the 2k dual horns sound better than my single beep beep horn!

Originally Posted by az4x4runner
How does the horn on the 2k sound? I'd be interested in doing this swap sometime, I hate the sound of the 2nd gen stock horn.
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lol... i need to use what i already have! and i saw a thread about train horns

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Airhorns FTW!!!!!!
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okay... going to the tech section to see if a relay is needed.

thanks for all the replies!!!

joel

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the 2k horns use the bracket's for ground soo just find the hot wire on yours and add another wire and ur done
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If you have a two wire horn then its switched ground. The new horn is switched power with a mount ground.

You need to wire up a relay, I did this when I swapped to dual f150 horns.

Check the tech section writeup to find out what wires need to go where on the relay.
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Yeah the horns on the second gens are kinda a joke. I put a bigger horn in mine from a 92 ES300 (they were free!). WAY better. the connectors match up so the only hard part was fitting them between the grill haha
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ive got one of these on my truck and dont use a relay and have had no problems well im not sure if older truck use a factory style relay ?

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i found deez92's horn install in the tech section.

he states that if i connect the + wire to the horn the horn will stay on.

if that happens, i will try, then i will need a relay.

i'll report back!

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Make sure the mount is grounded when you touch the hot lead.
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Originally Posted by Elton
ive got one of these on my truck and dont use a relay and have had no problems well im not sure if older truck use a factory style relay ?

What did that thing cost you? Do you like it? Easy install?? I ask because right now my horn on the 89 goes *poooot.....pooot.............pepepepepepeeeeeeep* It's just embarassing.
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install was easy they come with a relay so all you need to do is a little wireing ..that one pictured is more expensive but i got it used off ebay for like 30 bucks ... these ones here are about 50 or so shipped i have one on my motorcycle for like 3yrs been in the rain and what ever else and it works just fine !

check out youtube for sound clips its called Stebel Nautilus Compact

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Originally Posted by Junkers88
right now my horn on the 89 goes *poooot.....pooot.............pepepepepepeeeeeeep* It's just embarassing.

Why is it we all know EXACTLY what that sounds like?



I found some dual horns off a Crown Vic. Sound nice, I am not embarassed to honk at people now.
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Crown vic

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jay351, you are absolutely correct!!!

if you wire the horns directly to the hot wire from the oem harness with them grounded they will blaaaaare at you until you disconnect power - lol.

i have a relay and watched a video on youtube to see how to wire it and unforunately, i think my relay is bad

if i bypass the relay and connect power the horns work.

so, i'll be testing the relay and replacing if needed.

joel


Originally Posted by Jay351
If you have a two wire horn then its switched ground. The new horn is switched power with a mount ground.

You need to wire up a relay, I did this when I swapped to dual f150 horns.

Check the tech section writeup to find out what wires need to go where on the relay.
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heres a basic relay set up

clicky

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the 86 terminals will be where u wanna hook the factory wire into
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hi elton,

thank you for the pic.

i actually wired it like that... i'm pretty sure and it doesn't work.

can you, anyone!, look at this post:

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f127...ick-up-162857/

and tell me if it's similar to the diagram you provided.

i'm thinking it's not.

my wiring checks out... my relay checks out... but still no joy.

i reinstall my OG horn and beep beep goodness.

replace with my two 2k horns and relay and nothing.

i touch the wire going into the horns with 12volt source and i get a lot of noise.

... i'm tired.

joel
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Thats the guide I used to wire my relay up. The one elton posted is for wiring lights, since we are tapping into factory wiring for the horn, its a little different.

Make sure your new horn ground is good (factory horn grounds through the wiring).

I used the stock horn mounting bracket to hold my dual horns, I forgot to sand it down, no worky. Stuck the wrench on it to remove it, it completed the ground and HOOOOONK right in my face

try hooking all the wiring up and holding the horns ground onto the ground post of your battery to test it.
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okay jay351... i'll sand down my grounding point (it's the stock location).

hope this pic will work...



soooo, the connector on the left is blue and is hot?

... the connector on the left is NOT hot and has 2 wires coming off of it?

if so, i'll replicate that!!!

joel
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