Rebuilding manual hubs - what's involved? - Page 3

Tacoma750 · 10-23-2007, 10:52 PM

my body paint is flat black from a spraycan for now HAHA

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Tacoma750 · 10-23-2007, 10:55 PM

I THINK I'll leave the base of the HUB metal, like it comes from the factory. I'll just clean them real good. Than i'll do theouter part of the dial hammered grey and the part you turn (the actual dial) red. Than do all the words (LOCK,FREE) in white. I cna free hand those with a small paintbrush and model paint.

BLKNBLU · 10-23-2007, 10:58 PM

Hey here is a useful part # list if you need to get any of this stuff from the dealer.
http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/showfl...5&o=14&fpart=1

Tacoma750 · 10-23-2007, 10:58 PM

Well its 2AM and the HUBS are all torn down. I'll be making anoter thread soon of the paint process...than waiting for my rebuild kit to come in from downey so I can pack these with grease and put them back together! goodnight YT

Jay351 · 10-23-2007, 11:00 PM

I doubt you really needed that rebuild kit

But post up pictures when you get everything together and paint them.

I wish I took pics of my hub re-build. I got too excited to wait for my camera

Tacoma750 · 10-23-2007, 11:01 PM

well..i probably dont NEED it. But where else would I find all the gaskets and stuff? I dont have any of them.

Jay351 · 10-23-2007, 11:03 PM

You can get all gaskets at the dealership, I grabbed them there.

The rubber o-ring is usually in fine shape. Not many people take these things apart

And the bolts can be found at any hardware store. I will find my bag with a few spares in it to make sure of the bolt kind.

*edit*

Here is the bolt specs

"M6-1.0x16MM " mine where labled as 1" M6x16mm bolts.

BLKNBLU · 10-23-2007, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay351

You can get all gaskets at the dealership, I grabbed them there.

The rubber o-ring is usually in fine shape. Not many people take these things apart

Me too about the dealer. I did break one of my o rings so I went ahead and got those too. If you want I can send you some bolts. I didn't know about the Downey kit and thought allen head bolts would be cool. Got 'em through McMaster-Carr. Black metal too!! But I had to buy 100 of 'em so i got plenty to spare. Let me know.

Tacoma750 · 10-24-2007, 08:08 AM

hey man^ I could deffinatley use some of those bolts ;-) Let me know on a $$, appriciate that!

What did you guys ask for at the dealership?

Jay351 · 10-24-2007, 08:10 AM

I just asked for both manual hub gaskets.

Tacoma750 · 10-24-2007, 08:14 AM

o there are onloy 2 gaskets? I have one right infront of me. Its like a star shaped gasket made from paper. Its real beat and torn though. BUT is that all I need are two of those?

**aviator** · 10-24-2007, 08:49 AM

one round and one star gasket per side is all there is... well them and the O-ring in the dial...
thanks for the IH8mud link Jay really nice clear colour photo's... now I just have to get off my tail and re-build/install mine...

Tacoma750 · 10-24-2007, 09:48 AM

So i got snap rin pliers..got it out ok. NOW I cant find that little spring...uh-oh. I got the ball, but what do i do about the spring?

Tacoma750 · 10-24-2007, 10:00 AM

OO and the other one didnt even have a spring in it...its like a TINY spring that i saw

ocdropzone · 10-24-2007, 10:03 AM

Good thread, added the ih8mud link to fav's. I think I saw a thread about your truck a while ago, do you have a link? Curious about the buick 3.8..

Tacoma750 · 10-24-2007, 10:13 AM

^^ there are about 500 threads about my truck hah. Just search my name and you can read EVERY mod ive done since I got the truck. Any questions on the 3.8 feel free to PM me

Jay351 · 10-24-2007, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacoma750

o there are onloy 2 gaskets? I have one right infront of me. Its like a star shaped gasket made from paper. Its real beat and torn though. BUT is that all I need are two of those?

yes, as Avaitor pointed out, there are 4 gaskets total for both hubs.
A gasket that seals the hub to the truck, and the gasket that seals the dial to the hub body.
I.E Star shaped = hub body-dial gasket
Round gasket= hub body to truck gasket.
Both available at the dealer for around 10 bucks

Quote:

Originally Posted by aviator

one round and one star gasket per side is all there is... well them and the O-ring in the dial...
thanks for the IH8mud link Jay really nice clear colour photo's... now I just have to get off my tail and re-build/install mine...

No problemo, now you have no excuses to not get your hubs rebuilt and installed

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacoma750

So i got snap rin pliers..got it out ok. NOW I cant find that little spring...uh-oh. I got the ball, but what do i do about the spring?

Are you sure the spring is not stuck inside the dial? Mine were due to grease. I had to use a paper clip end to grab onto it and slide it out.

BLKNBLU · 10-24-2007, 10:30 AM

Wab fab has the spring and ball for like $5 and $1 shipping. Look at the Downey rebuild kit here: http://www.downeyoff-road.com/Chassi...riveTrain.html
It shows all the gaskets, 2 round rubber, 2 star paper, and 2 round paper. 1 of each goes on each side, and you may not need the rubber ones, just depends on what kind of shape yours are in. Then you need the bolts. I looked up mine again and they were about 10 cents each, then if you want a couple of extras and whatever they cost to mail. You can PM me if your interested. Here is the part number and site. 91239A318
http://www.mcmaster.com/

Tacoma750 · 10-24-2007, 10:34 AM

OK..So I have both balls out and both springs. The springs are each likr 1/2 an inch long ide guess? Is that all that cmes out fo the dials?

BLKNBLU · 10-24-2007, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacoma750

OK..So I have both balls out and both springs. The springs are each likr 1/2 an inch long ide guess? Is that all that cmes out fo the dials?

Yep.

Tacoma750 · 10-24-2007, 10:42 AM

sweetace! Im painting everything now and cleaning all the parts. You KNOW pictures will follow

**aviator** · 10-24-2007, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay351

No problemo, now you have no excuses to not get your hubs rebuilt and installed

Yeah I've bought those gaskets twice now... lost them once... I may have to buy them again unless I find them back...again! D'OH!!!

Tacoma750 · 10-24-2007, 10:55 AM

I have a paint question..Im leaving the BASE of the HUBs raw metal...than painting the outsdie ring hammered grey. Its reay dark, and also the same color as my wheels. WHAT COLOR should I paint the dials? LEave them red and do white letters? Paint them white and do black letters. Just throw me some ideas.

BLKNBLU · 10-24-2007, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aviator

Yeah I've bought those gaskets twice now... lost them once... I may have to buy them again unless I find them back...again! D'OH!!!

Ha!! One day your going to be cleaning (or in my case moving is the only reason to clean) and you're going to find a whole closet full of hub gaskets.

BLKNBLU · 10-24-2007, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacoma750

I have a paint question..Im leaving the BASE of the HUBs raw metal...than painting the outsdie ring hammered grey. Its reay dark, and also the same color as my wheels. WHAT COLOR should I paint the dials? LEave them red and do white letters? Paint them white and do black letters. Just throw me some ideas.

I have a real old set for SFA that were blue so I went with that, but my truck is blue too. If I had no other obvious reason to change it I would personally just stick with the red. OR... what have you got free in the garage right now?

10-23-2007, 10:55 PM	#52 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	I THINK I'll leave the base of the HUB metal, like it comes from the factory. I'll just clean them real good. Than i'll do theouter part of the dial hammered grey and the part you turn (the actual dial) red. Than do all the words (LOCK,FREE) in white. I cna free hand those with a small paintbrush and model paint. __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

10-23-2007, 10:58 PM	#53 (permalink)
BLKNBLU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 1,668	Hey here is a useful part # list if you need to get any of this stuff from the dealer. http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/showfl...5&o=14&fpart=1 __________________ 86 4Runner, custom Sonoran Steel rear bumper, 4Crawler 1" body lift, rock sliders from Richard Stubbs, rear Lockright, SAS w/ARB My build thread. http://www.yotatech.com/f66/blknblu-s-sac-155872/

10-23-2007, 10:58 PM	#54 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	Well its 2AM and the HUBS are all torn down. I'll be making anoter thread soon of the paint process...than waiting for my rebuild kit to come in from downey so I can pack these with grease and put them back together! goodnight YT __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

10-23-2007, 11:00 PM	#55 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,640	I doubt you really needed that rebuild kit But post up pictures when you get everything together and paint them. I wish I took pics of my hub re-build. I got too excited to wait for my camera __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 250k \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \|SS IFS brace \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

10-23-2007, 11:01 PM	#56 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	well..i probably dont NEED it. But where else would I find all the gaskets and stuff? I dont have any of them. __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

10-23-2007, 11:03 PM	#57 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,640	You can get all gaskets at the dealership, I grabbed them there. The rubber o-ring is usually in fine shape. Not many people take these things apart And the bolts can be found at any hardware store. I will find my bag with a few spares in it to make sure of the bolt kind. edit Here is the bolt specs "M6-1.0x16MM " mine where labled as 1" M6x16mm bolts. __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 250k \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \|SS IFS brace \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486 Last edited by Jay351; 10-23-2007 at 11:06 PM.

10-24-2007, 08:08 AM	#59 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	hey man^ I could deffinatley use some of those bolts ;-) Let me know on a $$, appriciate that! What did you guys ask for at the dealership? __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

10-24-2007, 08:10 AM	#60 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,640	I just asked for both manual hub gaskets. __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 250k \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \|SS IFS brace \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

10-24-2007, 08:14 AM	#61 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	o there are onloy 2 gaskets? I have one right infront of me. Its like a star shaped gasket made from paper. Its real beat and torn though. BUT is that all I need are two of those? __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

10-24-2007, 08:49 AM	#62 (permalink)
aviator Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: COTKU,Ontario,Canada Posts: 7,472	one round and one star gasket per side is all there is... well them and the O-ring in the dial... thanks for the IH8mud link Jay really nice clear colour photo's... now I just have to get off my tail and re-build/install mine... __________________ Silver 1994 Hilux Xtra cab 4x4 3.0 K&N cone filter, ported MAF, advanced timing, oversize exhaust, free flow cat, "rumble" muffler custom covered SR5 seats, map lights, factory AC tv4184 style black interior conversion started mods to come... header, custom centre console, stereo upgrade tinted windows Founding member 1972TLC fan club - Get well soon Mary Toyota Hilux... Get in or Get out of the way.

10-24-2007, 09:48 AM	#63 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	So i got snap rin pliers..got it out ok. NOW I cant find that little spring...uh-oh. I got the ball, but what do i do about the spring? __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust Last edited by Tacoma750; 10-24-2007 at 09:55 AM.

10-24-2007, 10:00 AM	#64 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	OO and the other one didnt even have a spring in it...its like a TINY spring that i saw __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

10-24-2007, 10:03 AM	#65 (permalink)
ocdropzone Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR Posts: 4,711	Good thread, added the ih8mud link to fav's. I think I saw a thread about your truck a while ago, do you have a link? Curious about the buick 3.8.. __________________ ~Robb '81 Trekker The B4Runner Build TREKKER Forum Mini FAQ/Misc Ideas Thread TRY THESE SEARCH LINKS GOOGLE FOR TOYOTA WEBSITES LINK TO ONLINE FACTORY SERVICE MANUALS Drive a real 1st Gen Wheel Responsibly, Don't Screw It Up for Others

10-24-2007, 10:13 AM	#66 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	^^ there are about 500 threads about my truck hah. Just search my name and you can read EVERY mod ive done since I got the truck. Any questions on the 3.8 feel free to PM me __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

10-24-2007, 10:30 AM	#68 (permalink)
BLKNBLU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 1,668	Wab fab has the spring and ball for like $5 and $1 shipping. Look at the Downey rebuild kit here: http://www.downeyoff-road.com/Chassi...riveTrain.html It shows all the gaskets, 2 round rubber, 2 star paper, and 2 round paper. 1 of each goes on each side, and you may not need the rubber ones, just depends on what kind of shape yours are in. Then you need the bolts. I looked up mine again and they were about 10 cents each, then if you want a couple of extras and whatever they cost to mail. You can PM me if your interested. Here is the part number and site. 91239A318 http://www.mcmaster.com/ __________________ 86 4Runner, custom Sonoran Steel rear bumper, 4Crawler 1" body lift, rock sliders from Richard Stubbs, rear Lockright, SAS w/ARB My build thread. http://www.yotatech.com/f66/blknblu-s-sac-155872/

10-24-2007, 10:34 AM	#69 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	OK..So I have both balls out and both springs. The springs are each likr 1/2 an inch long ide guess? Is that all that cmes out fo the dials? __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

10-24-2007, 10:42 AM	#71 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	sweetace! Im painting everything now and cleaning all the parts. You KNOW pictures will follow __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

10-24-2007, 10:55 AM	#73 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	I have a paint question..Im leaving the BASE of the HUBs raw metal...than painting the outsdie ring hammered grey. Its reay dark, and also the same color as my wheels. WHAT COLOR should I paint the dials? LEave them red and do white letters? Paint them white and do black letters. Just throw me some ideas. __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

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