Rebuilding manual hubs - what's involved? - Page 2

CyMoN · 10-23-2007, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tacoma750

gah! one more thing i gotta buy lol. Im sitting her taking my hubs apart at the computer

Now i gotta stop cuz i dont have snap ring pliers

lol get used to buying tools I just bought a tap&die set for broken body bolts and today I had to buy a spark plug thread chaser and the list gos on and on

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Jay351 · 10-23-2007, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLKNBLU

Look at the pics in Jay's link and the exploded view in the link I sent you. Mine shows you pretty well what order they go in and Jay's shows you better how each part actually fits together. Stick with it as it can be confusing. I was really glad I had one still all together to look at while I worked on the other.

I used both of the links, and thats exactly how it helped

Tacoma750 · 10-23-2007, 10:13 PM

right now im trying to get the internals out of the larger part of the hub. Everything slides, and ALMOST comes out..but just wont come all the way. I guess its the spring gear

BLKNBLU · 10-23-2007, 10:16 PM

Yeah where Jays link says "this is where it gets tricky" they aren't kidding. Getting that clutch, tensioner spring and follower pawl together right is a real PITA. That spring just doesn't want to stay put.

**DeathCougar** · 10-23-2007, 10:18 PM

Have you talked to Brian? (WaskillyWabbit, owns WabFab) he sells these things rebuilt on his website and ready to bolt on!

Jay351 · 10-23-2007, 10:19 PM

yeah man ^ The hardest part was getting the spring into the gear and attached to the other spring... and grease just makes it worse!

Back to helping

Now where you able to get the outer bigger gear out? It should slide out without a problem, but in any case, it needs to come out to get everything working.

Tacoma750 · 10-23-2007, 10:21 PM

persistance! I got it out..I have them all pretty much torn down! thanks so much for your help fellas. Here you will see what im left with. I got the gear out, and you can see whats left in the hub. does that HAVE to come out?

Jay351 · 10-23-2007, 10:23 PM

Awsume!

Okay, no that bottom gear does not have to come out. Thats the gear that will "lock" things in place.

now just clean out as much as that old grease as possible, I used water and a toothbrush with plenty of rags handy.

you will see a groove cut into the gear on the inside, thats what that smaller spring winds into to hold onto it.

Tacoma750 · 10-23-2007, 10:26 PM

these things are darn near bone dry inside. Im gonna finish tearin them down and tomorrow soak them in degreaser. Is that a safe thing to do?

Also..I only have ONE of these.

Jay351 · 10-23-2007, 10:27 PM

Well I wouldnt soak the dial in any cemicles since it has a rubber o-ring in it.

Now you only have 1 spring, you need 2.

CyMoN · 10-23-2007, 10:28 PM

I let mine sit for a week in mineral spirits then cleaned them out and off not the dial though I took it apart and removed the O ring before soaking it.

Tacoma750 · 10-23-2007, 10:30 PM

Well im not concerned about gaskets and orings. IM gonna order the rebuild kit from DOWNEY. Its like $21, plus it has the nice screws to put them back together..i dont have any screws as of now.

Where can I get another of those springs?

BLKNBLU · 10-23-2007, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathCougar

Have you talked to Brian? (WaskillyWabbit, owns WabFab) he sells these things rebuilt on his website and ready to bolt on!

Yeah for $250!! I'll take a crack at rebuilding thanks.

Tacoma750 · 10-23-2007, 10:33 PM

^^ exactly...I like to try to rebuild stuff..its fun. SO after a little time and help form you all...here is what I have siting infront of me

Jay351 · 10-23-2007, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacoma750

Well im not concerned about gaskets and orings. IM gonna order the rebuild kit from DOWNEY. Its like $21, plus it has the nice screws to put them back together..i dont have any screws as of now.

Where can I get another of those springs?

You can get the bolts at any hardwear store, I got mine from a place near my house.. M16x6 bolts im pretty sure.

But as far as I know you can't really buy it online, you MIGHT be able to get one from the dealership but it might be one of those things you need to go to the wreckers for.

BLKNBLU · 10-23-2007, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacoma750

Where can I get another of those springs?

That may be a tough one. I'd say try the dealer.

Tacoma750 · 10-23-2007, 10:36 PM

i'll check the hardware store..I need all the gaskets and everythnig anyway. there are NONE in my hubs now. So the downey kit would be agood i think...now i gota try to find this darn spring. Whats that called? or is there a part #?

Jay351 · 10-23-2007, 10:36 PM

It looks like there is a spring attached to the Big spring on the left of your pic, or is it just the angle

Tacoma750 · 10-23-2007, 10:40 PM

^^ DUDE!!! yuor the flippin MAN haha. Your right, it was there. I just popped it off. Now i have all the parts. Just need to track down all the gaskets/orings

Jay351 · 10-23-2007, 10:42 PM

Haha, sounds great!! Now you see how the spring clips into the bigger spring, now you just need to thread the end of the little spring into the gear

Tacoma750 · 10-23-2007, 10:44 PM

yea, but i'll attempt that after I clean everything. Tomorrow i'll track down some snap ring pliers and take the dial apart. BEING EXTRA careful not to loose that ball that eevrybody talks about. THan im gonna scuff em up and paint them.

Jay351 · 10-23-2007, 10:46 PM

Good stuff, going with hammered grey?

And that little ball, mine simply slid out due to grease, but I have heard of them "shooting" out.

Tacoma750 · 10-23-2007, 10:47 PM

I dont know about hammered grey. My wheels are hammered grey, and I think I want the hubs to stand out a little. IM gonna leave the dials red, like they are stock. But im not sure about the rest. I MIGHT go with a silver color.

Tacoma750 · 10-23-2007, 10:50 PM

im lookin arund for how other people have painted there hubs..other tha OEM colors

Jay351 · 10-23-2007, 10:51 PM

You should match the dial colour to your body paint. Thats what I did with mine

Gives it that suttle touch

10-23-2007, 10:13 PM	#28 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	right now im trying to get the internals out of the larger part of the hub. Everything slides, and ALMOST comes out..but just wont come all the way. I guess its the spring gear __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust Last edited by Tacoma750; 10-23-2007 at 10:15 PM.

10-23-2007, 10:16 PM	#29 (permalink)
BLKNBLU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 1,668	Yeah where Jays link says "this is where it gets tricky" they aren't kidding. Getting that clutch, tensioner spring and follower pawl together right is a real PITA. That spring just doesn't want to stay put. __________________ 86 4Runner, custom Sonoran Steel rear bumper, 4Crawler 1" body lift, rock sliders from Richard Stubbs, rear Lockright, SAS w/ARB My build thread. http://www.yotatech.com/f66/blknblu-s-sac-155872/

10-23-2007, 10:19 PM	#31 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,647	yeah man ^ The hardest part was getting the spring into the gear and attached to the other spring... and grease just makes it worse! Back to helping Now where you able to get the outer bigger gear out? It should slide out without a problem, but in any case, it needs to come out to get everything working. __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 250k \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \|SS IFS brace \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

10-23-2007, 10:21 PM	#32 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	persistance! I got it out..I have them all pretty much torn down! thanks so much for your help fellas. Here you will see what im left with. I got the gear out, and you can see whats left in the hub. does that HAVE to come out? __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

10-23-2007, 10:23 PM	#33 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,647	Awsume! Okay, no that bottom gear does not have to come out. Thats the gear that will "lock" things in place. now just clean out as much as that old grease as possible, I used water and a toothbrush with plenty of rags handy. you will see a groove cut into the gear on the inside, thats what that smaller spring winds into to hold onto it. __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 250k \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \|SS IFS brace \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

10-23-2007, 10:26 PM	#34 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	these things are darn near bone dry inside. Im gonna finish tearin them down and tomorrow soak them in degreaser. Is that a safe thing to do? Also..I only have ONE of these. __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

10-23-2007, 10:27 PM	#35 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,647	Well I wouldnt soak the dial in any cemicles since it has a rubber o-ring in it. Now you only have 1 spring, you need 2. __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 250k \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \|SS IFS brace \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

10-23-2007, 10:28 PM	#36 (permalink)
CyMoN Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: INDIANA Posts: 2,164	I let mine sit for a week in mineral spirits then cleaned them out and off not the dial though I took it apart and removed the O ring before soaking it. __________________ my rigs 89 4runner 1989 4runner v6 5 speed everything factory +4susplift running bfg 31s and a aux gas tank and more aux lights than needed 86 pickup 1986 stock pickup 22r 31.10 BFG ATs flatbed a sad day for the 4runner "One moment of patience may ward off great disaster. One moment of impatience may ruin a whole life." Last edited by CyMoN; 10-23-2007 at 10:30 PM.

10-23-2007, 10:30 PM	#37 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	Well im not concerned about gaskets and orings. IM gonna order the rebuild kit from DOWNEY. Its like $21, plus it has the nice screws to put them back together..i dont have any screws as of now. Where can I get another of those springs? __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

10-23-2007, 10:33 PM	#39 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	^^ exactly...I like to try to rebuild stuff..its fun. SO after a little time and help form you all...here is what I have siting infront of me __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

10-23-2007, 10:36 PM	#42 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	i'll check the hardware store..I need all the gaskets and everythnig anyway. there are NONE in my hubs now. So the downey kit would be agood i think...now i gota try to find this darn spring. Whats that called? or is there a part #? __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

10-23-2007, 10:36 PM	#43 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,647	It looks like there is a spring attached to the Big spring on the left of your pic, or is it just the angle __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 250k \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \|SS IFS brace \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

10-23-2007, 10:40 PM	#44 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	^^ DUDE!!! yuor the flippin MAN haha. Your right, it was there. I just popped it off. Now i have all the parts. Just need to track down all the gaskets/orings __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

10-23-2007, 10:42 PM	#45 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,647	Haha, sounds great!! Now you see how the spring clips into the bigger spring, now you just need to thread the end of the little spring into the gear __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 250k \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \|SS IFS brace \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

10-23-2007, 10:44 PM	#46 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	yea, but i'll attempt that after I clean everything. Tomorrow i'll track down some snap ring pliers and take the dial apart. BEING EXTRA careful not to loose that ball that eevrybody talks about. THan im gonna scuff em up and paint them. __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

10-23-2007, 10:46 PM	#47 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,647	Good stuff, going with hammered grey? And that little ball, mine simply slid out due to grease, but I have heard of them "shooting" out. __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 250k \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \|SS IFS brace \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

10-23-2007, 10:47 PM	#48 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	I dont know about hammered grey. My wheels are hammered grey, and I think I want the hubs to stand out a little. IM gonna leave the dials red, like they are stock. But im not sure about the rest. I MIGHT go with a silver color. __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

10-23-2007, 10:50 PM	#49 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	im lookin arund for how other people have painted there hubs..other tha OEM colors __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

10-23-2007, 10:51 PM	#50 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,647	You should match the dial colour to your body paint. Thats what I did with mine Gives it that suttle touch __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 250k \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \|SS IFS brace \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

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