Rebuilding manual hubs - what's involved?

Tacoma750 · 10-23-2007, 08:57 PM

When I bougth my truck, it came with WARN hubs..BUT In a box I got two AISIN hubs. They are all in peices, and I just dont know whats what. Ide like to get them rebuilt and use them, keeping the warns for spares. Does anyone have a diagram, or SOMETHING that shows all the parts of a AISIN hub and how it goes together? Also a link to a rebuild kit would be AWSOME

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InternetRoadkill · 10-23-2007, 09:05 PM

The Aisin hubs are rather simple. It shouldn't be hard to figure out how they go together. Just don't lose the little spring and ball.

Jay351 · 10-23-2007, 09:05 PM

When I got my aisins they where in peices in the bottom of a grease/dirty filled pan. I had never even seen aisins before!

I rebuilt them and they work perfect!

Here is the best thread I found on the subject, the pictures where the best I could find. He shows you step by step with pics what to do.

http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=149776

BLKNBLU · 10-23-2007, 09:07 PM

http://personal.utulsa.edu/~nathan-b...14freewhee.pdf

Tacoma750 · 10-23-2007, 09:09 PM

thanks for all the help guys! IM sur eim missing parts and stuff. Time to start reading. Funny.I HATE reading, unless it has to do with my truck haha

Prophet_MX · 10-23-2007, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacoma750

Funny.I HATE reading, unless it has to do with my truck haha

HAHA I'm the same way dude! good luck on the wrenching.

BLKNBLU · 10-23-2007, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay351

When I got my aisins they where in peices in the bottom of a grease/dirty filled pan. I had never even seen aisins before!

I rebuilt them and they work perfect!

Here is the best thread I found on the subject, the pictures where the best I could find. He shows you step by step with pics what to do.

http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=149776

Thats a nice write up

-----> bookmarked

Tacoma750 · 10-23-2007, 09:16 PM

is there a place I can buy a rebuild kit? Im missing MOST of that stuff haha

BLKNBLU · 10-23-2007, 09:24 PM

Trail Gear and Marlin have some parts. Also Downey has a complete kit. The dealership isn't a bad place for this either although you will have to piece it together.

gametom · 10-23-2007, 09:31 PM

i think the wabit had a kit

Tacoma750 · 10-23-2007, 09:37 PM

Im looking at my hubs right now at the computer desk lol
Im prettty sure Im gonna need MOST of not al of the internals. Whats the little ball everybody talks about? i deffinatley dont have that

88-surf · 10-23-2007, 09:41 PM

this helps me alot to thanks guys

Tacoma750 · 10-23-2007, 09:47 PM

I dont even know what im loking at here...heres a few pictures of what im looking at. The first picture is how BOTH hubs look when looking into them

this picture is what I see looing at the outer part of the HUB

This picture is the other outer part of the hub..and some other sort of real tightly wound spring

Jay351 · 10-23-2007, 09:56 PM

Hmm It dosnt look like you are missing anything.

The "little ball" is inside the turning dial, you have to remove the snap ring on the underside of it and the red dial will sepperate from the outer ring/plate.

and dont worry about the looks of them, mine where 10x worse. Took me an hour and a half to clean them up, then another 30 mins to repaint.

*
If you tip your housing over, the top bigger gear should slide out.
the spring pictures to the right on the 3rd pic snaps into the gear, wich connects to the spring on the dial.

And the notches on the plate attached to the wound spring on the handle need to secere into the dial.
If you compress the spring you will see the notches fit into grove on the dial, the spring needs to be compressed.

Tacoma750 · 10-23-2007, 09:58 PM

hmm..ok. If you look in th elast picture i posted..what is the spring on the right? the real tight one

BLKNBLU · 10-23-2007, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacoma750

Im looking at my hubs right now at the computer desk lol
Im prettty sure Im gonna need MOST of not al of the internals. Whats the little ball everybody talks about? i deffinatley dont have that

Look at the link that jay351 sent you. Pic #3 in post #3 shows the ball. You can't see the spring cuz it's under the ball in a hole/slot in the dial. It looks like your face and dial are still assembled (held together with a snap ring) Be careful disassembling it as the spring and ball have a tendency to go flying when you seperate the parts.

Tacoma750 · 10-23-2007, 10:00 PM

how did you remove that snap ring that hold sit all together?

Jay351 · 10-23-2007, 10:02 PM

Yes If you look in that thread it will show exactly what goes where.

But that spring attaches to the end of the big spring little flat thing at the end. Then the little spring threads into the big gear making one unit.
When things are assembled you should have 2 parts. the housing and gear and the dial/springs/gear

If you have much problems, post up plently of pictures, I can guide you where to put what. And anyone else who wants to help.

Jay351 · 10-23-2007, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacoma750

how did you remove that snap ring that hold sit all together?

Get a set of snap ring pliers, I got a nice set thats reversable at home hardware for under 10 bucks

BLKNBLU · 10-23-2007, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacoma750

how did you remove that snap ring that hold sit all together?

Snap ring pliers

Tacoma750 · 10-23-2007, 10:05 PM

gah! one more thing i gotta buy lol. Im sitting her taking my hubs apart at the computer

Now i gotta stop cuz i dont have snap ring pliers

Jay351 · 10-23-2007, 10:06 PM

Well you dont need them to clean them out good.
The parts held in with snap rings are sealed very well. You can get them in working order without taking them full apart.

CyMoN · 10-23-2007, 10:06 PM

they have a snap ring tool that you can pick up at auto zone or any other auto parts place. they look like these http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/tools...e=snapon-store

BLKNBLU · 10-23-2007, 10:08 PM

Look at the pics in Jay's link and the exploded view in the link I sent you. Mine shows you pretty well what order they go in and Jay's shows you better how each part actually fits together. Stick with it as it can be confusing. I was really glad I had one still all together to look at while I worked on the other.

Jay351 · 10-23-2007, 10:10 PM

Once you "get it" they are VERY easy to work on.

I figured out everything BUT attaching the gear to the spring on my own.

10-23-2007, 09:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,630	When I got my aisins they where in peices in the bottom of a grease/dirty filled pan. I had never even seen aisins before! I rebuilt them and they work perfect! Here is the best thread I found on the subject, the pictures where the best I could find. He shows you step by step with pics what to do. http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=149776 __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 250k \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \|SS IFS brace \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

10-23-2007, 09:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
BLKNBLU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 1,666	http://personal.utulsa.edu/~nathan-b...14freewhee.pdf __________________ 86 4Runner, custom Sonoran Steel rear bumper, 4Crawler 1" body lift, rock sliders from Richard Stubbs, rear Lockright, SAS w/ARB My build thread. http://www.yotatech.com/f66/blknblu-s-sac-155872/

10-23-2007, 09:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	thanks for all the help guys! IM sur eim missing parts and stuff. Time to start reading. Funny.I HATE reading, unless it has to do with my truck haha __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

10-23-2007, 09:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	is there a place I can buy a rebuild kit? Im missing MOST of that stuff haha __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

10-23-2007, 09:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
BLKNBLU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 1,666	Trail Gear and Marlin have some parts. Also Downey has a complete kit. The dealership isn't a bad place for this either although you will have to piece it together. __________________ 86 4Runner, custom Sonoran Steel rear bumper, 4Crawler 1" body lift, rock sliders from Richard Stubbs, rear Lockright, SAS w/ARB My build thread. http://www.yotatech.com/f66/blknblu-s-sac-155872/

10-23-2007, 09:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
InternetRoadkill Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 941	The Aisin hubs are rather simple. It shouldn't be hard to figure out how they go together. Just don't lose the little spring and ball.

10-23-2007, 09:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
gametom Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Manhattan IL Posts: 478	i think the wabit had a kit __________________ 91 4runner 22re mostly stock 2006 taco rims pioneer head with ipod controller cerwin vega speakers and 2 12" subs 2007 Kawasaki Ninja 1968 Bronco rusting away until i get the garage cleaned "I've never met a Walmart employee who was trained to do anything but look confused." Squidii On DSLR

10-23-2007, 09:37 PM	#11 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	Im looking at my hubs right now at the computer desk lol Im prettty sure Im gonna need MOST of not al of the internals. Whats the little ball everybody talks about? i deffinatley dont have that __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

10-23-2007, 09:41 PM	#12 (permalink)
88-surf Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: rotorua, new zealand Posts: 707	this helps me alot to thanks guys __________________ 1986 hilux surf, on 35x12.5 wheels, with 2 inch suspension lift and 2 inch body lift.(no reecent pics) Hasn't seen mud in over 2 months:(

10-23-2007, 09:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	I dont even know what im loking at here...heres a few pictures of what im looking at. The first picture is how BOTH hubs look when looking into them this picture is what I see looing at the outer part of the HUB This picture is the other outer part of the hub..and some other sort of real tightly wound spring __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

10-23-2007, 09:56 PM	#14 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,630	Hmm It dosnt look like you are missing anything. The "little ball" is inside the turning dial, you have to remove the snap ring on the underside of it and the red dial will sepperate from the outer ring/plate. and dont worry about the looks of them, mine where 10x worse. Took me an hour and a half to clean them up, then another 30 mins to repaint. * If you tip your housing over, the top bigger gear should slide out. the spring pictures to the right on the 3rd pic snaps into the gear, wich connects to the spring on the dial. And the notches on the plate attached to the wound spring on the handle need to secere into the dial. If you compress the spring you will see the notches fit into grove on the dial, the spring needs to be compressed. __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 250k \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \|SS IFS brace \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486 Last edited by Jay351; 10-23-2007 at 09:59 PM.

10-23-2007, 09:58 PM	#15 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	hmm..ok. If you look in th elast picture i posted..what is the spring on the right? the real tight one __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

10-23-2007, 10:00 PM	#17 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	how did you remove that snap ring that hold sit all together? __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

10-23-2007, 10:02 PM	#18 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,630	Yes If you look in that thread it will show exactly what goes where. But that spring attaches to the end of the big spring little flat thing at the end. Then the little spring threads into the big gear making one unit. When things are assembled you should have 2 parts. the housing and gear and the dial/springs/gear If you have much problems, post up plently of pictures, I can guide you where to put what. And anyone else who wants to help. __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 250k \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \|SS IFS brace \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

10-23-2007, 10:05 PM	#21 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	gah! one more thing i gotta buy lol. Im sitting her taking my hubs apart at the computer Now i gotta stop cuz i dont have snap ring pliers __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

10-23-2007, 10:06 PM	#22 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,630	Well you dont need them to clean them out good. The parts held in with snap rings are sealed very well. You can get them in working order without taking them full apart. __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 250k \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \|SS IFS brace \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

10-23-2007, 10:06 PM	#23 (permalink)
CyMoN Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: INDIANA Posts: 2,164	they have a snap ring tool that you can pick up at auto zone or any other auto parts place. they look like these http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/tools...e=snapon-store __________________ my rigs 89 4runner 1989 4runner v6 5 speed everything factory +4susplift running bfg 31s and a aux gas tank and more aux lights than needed 86 pickup 1986 stock pickup 22r 31.10 BFG ATs flatbed a sad day for the 4runner "One moment of patience may ward off great disaster. One moment of impatience may ruin a whole life."

10-23-2007, 10:08 PM	#24 (permalink)
BLKNBLU Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 1,666	Look at the pics in Jay's link and the exploded view in the link I sent you. Mine shows you pretty well what order they go in and Jay's shows you better how each part actually fits together. Stick with it as it can be confusing. I was really glad I had one still all together to look at while I worked on the other. __________________ 86 4Runner, custom Sonoran Steel rear bumper, 4Crawler 1" body lift, rock sliders from Richard Stubbs, rear Lockright, SAS w/ARB My build thread. http://www.yotatech.com/f66/blknblu-s-sac-155872/

10-23-2007, 10:10 PM	#25 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,630	Once you "get it" they are VERY easy to work on. I figured out everything BUT attaching the gear to the spring on my own. __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 250k \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \|SS IFS brace \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

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