rear pumpkin install. stuck partway

mojo4x420 · 02-24-2009, 03:23 PM

I bought a used pumpkin from a 2nd gen 4runner. 4.56 gears. I am currently trying to install into my friends 88 4runner.

I've done this a couple times before w/ not problems.I did the same thing to my 89 4runner.

This time, when everything went back together, the passenger axle isn't going in all the way. There's about a 1/4 inch of space between the backing plate and the axle. It feels like it's hitting something in the diff. axle is engaged w/ the gears and working, just seems like a large gap.

Drivers side went back in w/ no problem.

Any suggestions? I'm going to try tightening down the bolts to see if everything pulls together easily, but it seems like there's more of a gap then there should be.

cheers.

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iamsuperbleeder · 02-24-2009, 03:58 PM

maybe you need one of these

haha

I dunno buddy, the other side's going in fine?

try pulling the axle shaft back out of engagment from the spider and turn it a little and try to slide it back in? I dunno... that's stange...

same old axle shafts, backing plates, and rear wheel bearings?

mojo4x420 · 02-24-2009, 04:00 PM

Only thing changed was the diff.

iamsuperbleeder · 02-24-2009, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mojo4x420

Only thing changed was the diff.

complete assymbled 3rd member swap, right? no fooling around with the gears? all stock gears? (by stock I mean stock for whatever Toyota the came out of... their not after market gears, no locker, or anything)

jjrgr21 · 02-24-2009, 04:26 PM

mine did the same thing on drivers, 2x4 block, and a mini sledge

mojo4x420 · 02-24-2009, 04:30 PM

I didn't see a locker. Gears should be stock toyota gears, but I didn't look that close.

I tightened the backing plate up and the gap closed up fine.

Looks like everything is good. I'll post to confirm everything's still good after a fluid fill and a test drive.

Thanks for reads and replies!

iamsuperbleeder · 02-24-2009, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mojo4x420

I didn't see a locker. Gears should be stock toyota gears, but I didn't look that close.

I tightened the backing plate up and the gap closed up fine.

Looks like everything is good. I'll post to confirm everything's still good after a fluid fill and a test drive.

Thanks for reads and replies!

good to know!

let us know if all is well

apalmer1 · 02-24-2009, 05:01 PM

the splines are just binding up, push it in as far as you can then thread the nuts on the back of the backing plate studs and tighten them a little at a time to pull it in straight. tell your buddy that he might have a bent axle housing if its getting stuck that bad, but if he hasn't noticed weird tire wear or vibration on that side its probably fine, my taco axles get stuck like that every once in a while.

SwampThing · 02-24-2009, 05:04 PM

It's usually nice to have a friend fiddle with the flange while you're stabbing the shafts. Shouldn't be too hard, might want to check out the bearings and see if the shaft is bent.

abecedarian · 02-24-2009, 05:07 PM

....carrier bearings could cause the shaft to misalign and not seat...

Alex 400 · 02-24-2009, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mojo4x420

I didn't see a locker. Gears should be stock toyota gears, but I didn't look that close.

I tightened the backing plate up and the gap closed up fine.

Looks like everything is good. I'll post to confirm everything's still good after a fluid fill and a test drive.

Thanks for reads and replies!

after tightening it up, does it turn?

space-junk · 02-25-2009, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwampThing

It's usually nice to have a friend fiddle with the flange while you're stabbing the shafts. Shouldn't be too hard, might want to check out the bearings and see if the shaft is bent.

i love it when my lady friend fiddles with the flange while i stab it with my shaft...

sorry swampy... couldnt resist...

ZUK · 02-25-2009, 08:50 AM

I've had that happen to me before....it's just the bearing catching on the outer housing lip. Put the 4 backing plate nuts on and tighten them evenly and it will POP into place.

iamsuperbleeder · 02-25-2009, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by space-junk

i love it when my lady friend fiddles with the flange while i stab it with my shaft...

sorry swampy... couldnt resist...

wow Troy... family safe man, family safe

muddpigg · 02-25-2009, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by space-junk

i love it when my lady friend fiddles with the flange while i stab it with my shaft...

sorry swampy... couldnt resist...

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamsuperbleeder

wow Troy... family safe man, family safe

LOL, thats how we got a family. Wrenching women are hhottt.

iamsuperbleeder · 02-25-2009, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muddpigg

Wrenching women are hhottt.

well I'm not denying that

I dunno though, some can be a little manly

muddpigg · 02-25-2009, 05:59 PM

IAM how's exhuast doing?

iamsuperbleeder · 02-25-2009, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muddpigg

IAM how's exhuast doing?

well, it sounds good, accept for a leak in that emessions tube that runs back behind the motor, lol

I'm not screw'n with it; all the emissions crap is going away on with the new motor I hope to start puting together very soon

muddpigg · 02-25-2009, 06:05 PM

That back plate is a PITA to get to.

iamsuperbleeder · 02-25-2009, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muddpigg

That back plate is a PITA to get to.

that's why it's not getting screwed with

dewiseman · 02-25-2009, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muddpigg

LOL, thats how we got a family. Wrenching women are hhottt.

WOW, I think I will pay someone else to instal my locker. Sounds alot less expensive than ending up with a family from it.lol MuddPigg best of luck to you buddy. Stay safe.

Stuwy123 · 07-04-2009, 12:35 PM

Rise Dead Thread RISE!!!

I've pulled a couple diffs from the wreckers but I've always had a problem with the brake lines. I usally just beat them around enough to get the axel outta the diff.

I've never dealt with brake lines before and now it's time to install some diff into my truck.
Do you have to bleed the brakes after you pull the lines off? I've never done that before. I'm hoping for an easy way around that. I've heard you can just wrap the ends with a plastic bag to keep it from collecting too much air.
Does this work?

mojo4x420 · 07-04-2009, 12:42 PM

Bleed them. It takes 10 minutes and brakes are important. New brake fluid is always good.

The bag trick kinda works, but I always find it leaks and unless you are really quick, you'll end up dripping fluid everywhere and possibly running your master dry. If your master runs out, you should really remove it and bench bleed it. Shaved golf tee's in the brake lines work better. But bleed anyways.

02-24-2009, 03:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
iamsuperbleeder Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Casselberry, Fl Posts: 5,259	maybe you need one of these haha I dunno buddy, the other side's going in fine? try pulling the axle shaft back out of engagment from the spider and turn it a little and try to slide it back in? I dunno... that's stange... same old axle shafts, backing plates, and rear wheel bearings? __________________ 91 PU, 4wd, manual, 22re, .30-over, engnbldr RV head and 261 cam, MC 1200lbs clutch, misc LCE, engnbldr, and MC parts and HW, Pacesetter header and exhaust kit, Rancho UCA's , 4Crawler 1" diff and sway bar drop and 1.5" BJ spacers, WabFab 3.5" shackles, 31x10.5 pavement-pounding ATs on ProComp Extreme Alloys, misc SR5 interior goodies swapped in, 1000watt stereo system MySpace

02-24-2009, 04:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
mojo4x420 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: vancouver, bc Posts: 50	Only thing changed was the diff. __________________ 89 runner - 22re, chevy rear leafs, ball joint spacers, 4.56 gears, 31x10.5xr15

02-24-2009, 04:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
jjrgr21 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,520	mine did the same thing on drivers, 2x4 block, and a mini sledge __________________ 2003 4WD TRD Tacoma 1986 4Runner

02-24-2009, 04:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
mojo4x420 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: vancouver, bc Posts: 50	I didn't see a locker. Gears should be stock toyota gears, but I didn't look that close. I tightened the backing plate up and the gap closed up fine. Looks like everything is good. I'll post to confirm everything's still good after a fluid fill and a test drive. Thanks for reads and replies! __________________ 89 runner - 22re, chevy rear leafs, ball joint spacers, 4.56 gears, 31x10.5xr15

02-24-2009, 05:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
apalmer1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bend, OR. Posts: 664	the splines are just binding up, push it in as far as you can then thread the nuts on the back of the backing plate studs and tighten them a little at a time to pull it in straight. tell your buddy that he might have a bent axle housing if its getting stuck that bad, but if he hasn't noticed weird tire wear or vibration on that side its probably fine, my taco axles get stuck like that every once in a while. __________________ 04 taco, 3.4 5spd. loads of goodies, FZJ80 axle SAS in progress. 85 pickup, 327sbc, truggy, in progress. 86 mazda b2000 street queen haha. 92 mazda B2600i 4x4 absolutely mobs. 81 ford bronco drinks gas 90 mazda mx-5 all original. when in doubt, tach it out.

02-25-2009, 08:50 AM	#13 (permalink)
ZUK Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Phx AZ Posts: 539	I've had that happen to me before....it's just the bearing catching on the outer housing lip. Put the 4 backing plate nuts on and tighten them evenly and it will POP into place. __________________ www.gearinstalls.com 2001 white Xtra-cab Taco 3.4L auto TRD 88 Runner/V6/auto/31"/5.29gears ZUK was what my friends in 1990 "tagged' me with when I was building a brand new white 1990 Sami for a magazine cover. The name stuck and I haven't been able to shake it off....not even with antibiotics.

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muddpigg Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: injured and stateside :( Posts: 1,395	IAM how's exhuast doing? __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqtr_RvR3sY Balljoints for sale. Open to trades and offers. http://www.yotatech.com/f11/ball-joi.../#post51278784

02-25-2009, 06:05 PM	#19 (permalink)
muddpigg Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: injured and stateside :( Posts: 1,395	That back plate is a PITA to get to. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqtr_RvR3sY Balljoints for sale. Open to trades and offers. http://www.yotatech.com/f11/ball-joi.../#post51278784

07-04-2009, 12:35 PM	#22 (permalink)
Stuwy123 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 180	Rise Dead Thread RISE!!! I've pulled a couple diffs from the wreckers but I've always had a problem with the brake lines. I usally just beat them around enough to get the axel outta the diff. I've never dealt with brake lines before and now it's time to install some diff into my truck. Do you have to bleed the brakes after you pull the lines off? I've never done that before. I'm hoping for an easy way around that. I've heard you can just wrap the ends with a plastic bag to keep it from collecting too much air. Does this work?

07-04-2009, 12:42 PM	#23 (permalink)
mojo4x420 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: vancouver, bc Posts: 50	Bleed them. It takes 10 minutes and brakes are important. New brake fluid is always good. The bag trick kinda works, but I always find it leaks and unless you are really quick, you'll end up dripping fluid everywhere and possibly running your master dry. If your master runs out, you should really remove it and bench bleed it. Shaved golf tee's in the brake lines work better. But bleed anyways. __________________ 89 runner - 22re, chevy rear leafs, ball joint spacers, 4.56 gears, 31x10.5xr15

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