rear locker or limited slip
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rear locker or limited slip
Thought these came with limited slip or a locker in rear? Spins one rear tire like crazy when needed. Is it time for a ARB for the rear? What has anybody run in the front IRS for a selectable locker?
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I have not had the time to do it yet, but my plan is an Aussie lunchbox in the front and a Genuine Toyota LSD from a Turbo Supra for the rear. Mine is a daily driver, so did not want to mess around with lockers in the rear. I also have manual hubs, so can completely isolate the front locker at will.
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i am looking into that same question. is a limited slip diff as good or better than a locker in what situations?
from what i understand the limited slip will allow the tire in the air to spin in an offroad situation, maybe the stage two kit from Weir performance will be more offroad friendly but less onroad suitable.
http://weirperformance.com/maxgriplsdkits.html
anybody running a supra diff with some feedback?
i was thinking about running supra limited slip diff's front and rear but have not gathered enough info to decide.
don't want to get stuck because of the dreaded high center situation.
from what i understand the limited slip will allow the tire in the air to spin in an offroad situation, maybe the stage two kit from Weir performance will be more offroad friendly but less onroad suitable.
http://weirperformance.com/maxgriplsdkits.html
anybody running a supra diff with some feedback?
i was thinking about running supra limited slip diff's front and rear but have not gathered enough info to decide.
don't want to get stuck because of the dreaded high center situation.
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Some thing like that work?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Spartan-Locker-for-Toyota-Hilux-Pickup-4Runner-V6-8-w-30-Spline-Axle-Surf-4x4-/261312092388?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A1993%7CMake%3AToyota%7CModel%3APickup&hash=item3cd76a18e4&vxp=mtr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Spartan-Locker-for-Toyota-Hilux-Pickup-4Runner-V6-8-w-30-Spline-Axle-Surf-4x4-/261312092388?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Year%3A1993%7CMake%3AToyota%7CModel%3APickup&hash=item3cd76a18e4&vxp=mtr
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Sorry about that. 1989 4runner with 3VZ engine. Have ARB's in frt and rear in my jeep. and use them often in winter plus we have land with mud. Need something like ARB again where it is selectable. Do not and will not do any rock crawling so this is why. I thought that the SR5 came with rear limited slip or poss electric locker but the electric locker appears to hace came in 4runner that are newer. It does have selectable front hubs in front.
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Toyota first offered an electric locker in the rear in 1996. People have retrofitted them into earlier models, but it takes some machining and drilling on the rear axle housing to make it fit. If your primary use is for snow, you don't really want a lunchbox in the front (or in the rear, for that matter). Non-selectable lockers make it too easy to break the whole axle loose on slick roads, leading to sudden loss of control. A selectable would be better for the rear, and a limited slip like the Truetrac for the front.
That being said, I have the opposite configuration on my 4Runner (lunchbox in front, Truetrac in back). That's because it primarily spends time on dry roads with the front hubs unlocked, or offroad where the front locker is an asset, not a liability. It's not my favorite vehicle on snow and ice, though. I put up with it for short trips in town, but I drive the 4WD Suburban or my wife's AWD Juke for serious winter driving in the mountains.
That being said, I have the opposite configuration on my 4Runner (lunchbox in front, Truetrac in back). That's because it primarily spends time on dry roads with the front hubs unlocked, or offroad where the front locker is an asset, not a liability. It's not my favorite vehicle on snow and ice, though. I put up with it for short trips in town, but I drive the 4WD Suburban or my wife's AWD Juke for serious winter driving in the mountains.
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Seems to be a few people talking about breaking front axle with a true locker. The Truetrac you are talking about is known to me but have never driven with one. Being though that the hubs are selectable on front this seems like it might be a decent alternative to a ARB.
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So, what's wrong with the original setup on the 4Runners? For example, mine has a front locker, automatic hubs, and I have no idea what it has in the back, but at the worst it's a posi right? So, do you guy sin your daily driving in the snow or mud 'need' more than this setup has to offer? Plus, I figure this setup will last the longest...
I just want to understand why you guys are upgrading, or modifying the original 4x4 setup. Perhaps I 'need' to do this as well?
I just want to understand why you guys are upgrading, or modifying the original 4x4 setup. Perhaps I 'need' to do this as well?
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So, what's wrong with the original setup on the 4Runners? For example, mine has a front locker, automatic hubs, and I have no idea what it has in the back, but at the worst it's a posi right? So, do you guy sin your daily driving in the snow or mud 'need' more than this setup has to offer? Plus, I figure this setup will last the longest... I just want to understand why you guys are upgrading, or modifying the original 4x4 setup. Perhaps I 'need' to do this as well?
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I may have miss-spoke, so I'll say it this way. I have the automatic tranny with the vacuum actuated automatic hub setup, this much I'm pretty sure about. Now, if that is a locker in the front.... as I was thinking right now to answer your question, I realize I'm not sure if that is a locker for the diff... This is my first real Toyota truck experience and i've yet to actually drive it.. here are the codes on the drivers door, and everything is stock to the best of my knowledge... I tried to decode them online but wasn't successful..
VZN 130L-GKPGEA
C/TR 202/kq11
ATM G294/A340H
I know that 340H is my tranny and G294 my axles?/// So, what exactly do I have?
This weekend i'm finally going ot be doing a tranny oil/filter, and differential oil change (both diffs)...
VZN 130L-GKPGEA
C/TR 202/kq11
ATM G294/A340H
I know that 340H is my tranny and G294 my axles?/// So, what exactly do I have?
This weekend i'm finally going ot be doing a tranny oil/filter, and differential oil change (both diffs)...
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If it's stock, you have open front and rear diffs, unless it's post '96 with an e locker rear (optional, not all post '96). Locking the hubs and locking the diff are 2 different things.
If it's mostly a street rig (pavement princess) there's no reason to upgrade, they're fine as is.
If it's mostly a street rig (pavement princess) there's no reason to upgrade, they're fine as is.
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Yeah thanks Bingle, I miss spoke. According to wiki though, when i was researching prior to my purchase, the post 1996 vehicles dropped the rear locker... you guys think that is wrong?
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However, as I stated earlier, it's a bit tricky on slick roads if you need 4WD. I understand it well, treat it with respect, and get along fine. However, I won't let my wife drive it on snow/ice.