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Old 01-11-2009, 12:10 PM
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Rancho Upper Control Arms

is it possible to get them anywhere now?

was read'n around, and I kinda like the stance and flex they give with paired with some BJ-spacer, and a few other mods

I've already got the BJ-spacers, and if I can find these control arms somewhere (new or used), it would be awsome to throw on my 91 IFS along with a few other mods to the front end!

I just cannot locate them anywhere... not a whole lot of info out there about them either, is this a bad thing?
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http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=741645


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lol, I've already PMed him, I'm waiting on a responce

and I'll give him more than $200 if he's listing as "$200 obo"


so far that's the only hit I've found...
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lol good luck



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I seem to remember that the original Rancho kit design was purchased by Downey and that Downey now makes it with their own A-arm design due to the Rancho arm not being so good.
I also remember a thread where someone running the original Rancho kit had an A-arm snap while going over a speed-bump(NOT KIDDING)!
You may want to do a thorough search before spending your money......there's a reason this kit didn't sell so great.
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Originally Posted by fastkevman
I seem to remember that the original Rancho kit design was purchased by Downey and that Downey now makes it with their own A-arm design due to the Rancho arm not being so good.
I also remember a thread where someone running the original Rancho kit had an A-arm snap while going over a speed-bump(NOT KIDDING)!
You may want to do a thorough search before spending your money......there's a reason this kit didn't sell so great.
well I can't find crap about them out there, but I just found a sick thread about them and thought they'd be all right, lol

http://forum.ih8mud.com/79-95-toyota...936-rotbw.html

and I believe he's a member here on YT too; yes, I see his post in the "IFS Flex Thread" and that's what made me find out more
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Um so not gonna lie, I was going through a buddies neighborhood one day, and I saw that very same truck, almost every day after that I would always head that way home and stare at the truck, Low and behold they live in SA town, I recognize the neighborhood in some of those pics...

Stalker much..?


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Originally Posted by scuba
Um so not gonna lie, I was going through a buddies neighborhood one day, and I saw that very same truck, almost every day after that I would always head that way home and stare at the truck, Low and behold they live in SA town, I recognize the neighborhood in some of those pics...

Stalker much..?


haha, it's a small world aint it

next time stop and tell him SuperBleeder is going to copy his suspention setup
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Sure pal


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I've seen that truck on here before, he seems to have a strong set-up.
There is more to the original kit, I believe there were brackets to lower the front diff so the CV angles weren't so bad.
Every possible way of lifting a 2nd&3rd gen truck is a major compromise.
Total Chaos has the absolute nicest set-up but it makes the front wider and is very expensive.
Downey is not as tough as TC and is still very expensive.
SAS is not at all cheap and totally changes the frontend.
Bracket lift of any kind is not the best way to go strength wise and really has no gain of suspension travel.
Body lifts are ugly and don't gain any travel.
Spacers and T-bars cranks are harsher and gain very little (1-2")
Either way you go, I would do lots of research, ask a lot of different people how they really like what they have and what issues they have experienced, and try to find different trucks with different set-ups that you can actually ride in.
After wheeling with and riding in three different SAS'd rigs that killed that for me and I sold the '85 axle and parts I had for the swap, I have since decided to keep my truck stock suspension wise except for my Bilsteins.
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Oh, Super, Im in cali, He's in texas, So the whole stop and tell him is a no go


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Originally Posted by fastkevman
I've seen that truck on here before, he seems to have a strong set-up.
There is more to the original kit, I believe there were brackets to lower the front diff so the CV angles weren't so bad.
Every possible way of lifting a 2nd&3rd gen truck is a major compromise.
Total Chaos has the absolute nicest set-up but it makes the front wider and is very expensive.
Downey is not as tough as TC and is still very expensive.
SAS is not at all cheap and totally changes the frontend.
Bracket lift of any kind is not the best way to go strength wise and really has no gain of suspension travel.
Body lifts are ugly and don't gain any travel.
Spacers and T-bars cranks are harsher and gain very little (1-2")
Either way you go, I would do lots of research, ask a lot of different people how they really like what they have and what issues they have experienced, and try to find different trucks with different set-ups that you can actually ride in.
After wheeling with and riding in three different SAS'd rigs that killed that for me and I sold the '85 axle and parts I had for the swap, I have since decided to keep my truck stock suspension wise except for my Bilsteins.
I have a 4Crawler 1" diff drop kits as well yet to be installed, so that might help a little

thanks for the info and words of wisdom; yeah I really don't need/want a SAS. It's a pride kinda thing I guess 2 buddies of mine around here have SASed Taco's and one of my friends has a SASed 90, and they keep nagg'n me "When you gunna SAS yours?", and I just keep say'n "Never; I'll just build my IFS up so it'll get me where ever I want to go, and let me ride comfortably on the way back home and back to work the next day!". And for the $$$$ of a LT kit, well that's just rediculous...

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well, he responded pretty quick, and it looks like their going to be mine just waiting on him to determine the shipping costs


these and the BJ-spacers will get it up a little more in the front, and I can easily run some 2" spings in the back with my WabFab shackels so everything will be level, and I'll be able to clear some 33"s with absolutely NO problems, and yes I know what I'm getting myself into; custom tied-rod sleeves, longer custom CVs, messing with all the bump stops, but my tie-rods and ball-joints are being replaced anyway, and my CVs are already shot, so this will just be an major upgrade/restore project!


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Good deal man !!

Good luck


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i like the idea of spending 2k on an LT kit instead of 3k on an SAS...

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I think you will have to do some new front upper shock mounts also.
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Originally Posted by space-junk
i like the idea of spending 2k on an LT kit instead of 3k on an SAS...
and I like the idea of a $500-$600 one-off IFS setup

Originally Posted by fastkevman
I think you will have to do some new front upper shock mounts also.
ah yes, forgot to mention that as well; no problem, I'm up to it!
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I just thought of something else...

I wander if I would be able to make this a coil-over setup and ditch the t-bars all together? I wander if there's enough space between those UCA's?

don't some of the LT kits do that, or is that only on the 2wd's that that's possible?

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Dang i would love to do what your doing. Looks like im gunna have to search for some myself.
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Originally Posted by iamsuperbleeder
I just thought of something else...

I wander if I would be able to make this a coil-over setup and ditch the t-bars all together? I wander if there's enough space between those UCA's?

don't some of the LT kits do that, or is that only on the 2wd's that that's possible?

Check out the total chaos, I think its the gen2 kit that you can use coilovers with, I honestly think that would be the way to go, I just have a feeling coilovers have a better ride...

EDIT: Looking at the kit that you purchased, They look like they have a huge gap, Anything is possible dude you should deff get it done !!


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