R151 Trans/22re, which clutch?
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R151 Trans/22re, which clutch?
I have searched but could not find,
If I use a22RE engine with a 22RE flywheel in a R151 trans,
Do I need to use a R151 clutch or the regular 4cy trans clutch?
Thanks
If I use a22RE engine with a 22RE flywheel in a R151 trans,
Do I need to use a R151 clutch or the regular 4cy trans clutch?
Thanks
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w56 and r150f/r151f both use a 21 spline clutch disk.
So a clutch for a w56 should be what you need, because i think the 3.0 flywheel is larger.
So w56 (22re) clutch is what you need.
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So a clutch for a w56 should be what you need, because i think the 3.0 flywheel is larger.
So w56 (22re) clutch is what you need.
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so this means a 3.0 V6 and 20-22 R/E all have the same splines and diameter input shaft...
So one could run a V6 9 1/4" clutch disc if he had a RTE flywheel and was running non turbo...
And one can run a 9 1/4" clutch in ANY 20-22 R/E WITH AN L, W or R series trans, if he had a RTE fly wheel and pressure plate...
Std. 22RE clutch is 8 7/8" BTW...
So one could run a V6 9 1/4" clutch disc if he had a RTE flywheel and was running non turbo...
And one can run a 9 1/4" clutch in ANY 20-22 R/E WITH AN L, W or R series trans, if he had a RTE fly wheel and pressure plate...
Std. 22RE clutch is 8 7/8" BTW...
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Im guessing he is having a hard time finding a rare 22ret clutch.
Do your research. r150f and r151f are very similar transmissions, same bellhousing bolt patterns, but it has stronger gears, different gear ratios, and has a gear driven tcase.
Do your research. r150f and r151f are very similar transmissions, same bellhousing bolt patterns, but it has stronger gears, different gear ratios, and has a gear driven tcase.
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use the 22re clutch and pressure plate. The 22rte has a bigger flywheel, thats the only differance. Or you could get the bigger RTE flywheel and clutch.
BTW those are very rare only about a 1,000 in the us, I would not get rid of it unless you got some good coin for it.
BTW those are very rare only about a 1,000 in the us, I would not get rid of it unless you got some good coin for it.
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Damn it took me 3 tries to post that, internet keeps blowing up.
Well said tried4x2sighN...
Looks like we got this all figured out
Well said tried4x2sighN...
Looks like we got this all figured out
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use the 22re clutch and pressure plate. The 22rte has a bigger flywheel, thats the only differance. Or you could get the bigger RTE flywheel and clutch.
BTW those are very rare only about a 1,000 in the us, I would not get rid of it unless you got some good coin for it.
BTW those are very rare only about a 1,000 in the us, I would not get rid of it unless you got some good coin for it.
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Like others have already said you can run a standard 22re clutch and flywheel and everything will work fine, but if you really would like to run the larger flywheel and clutch here is some more info for you.
To start with original 22rte flywheels are hard to find, it took me several months to find mine for my project.
The original Toyota part # was 13405-39106, but has since been superceeded by Toyota part # 13405-35030. The clutch as was mentioned already is 9 1/4 inches, now it was suggested that you can use a v6 clutch disk and maybe you can but you would still have to source the proper pressure plate.
What many people don't know is that toyota used these flywheels again! From 08/92 to 10/95 the 4wd pick-up (only a 4wd) with a 22re had the larger flywheel and these trucks used the 9 1/4 clutch, so if you can find one of these trucks in the local junk yard the flywheel is the same as the original turbo flywheel. The clutch and pressure plate for the 08/85-05/88 22rte is the same as the 08/92-10/95 22re 4wd pickup. It is also the same as the 08/84-07/87 2.8 Cressida and the 09/81-12/85 2.8 Supra.
To start with original 22rte flywheels are hard to find, it took me several months to find mine for my project.
The original Toyota part # was 13405-39106, but has since been superceeded by Toyota part # 13405-35030. The clutch as was mentioned already is 9 1/4 inches, now it was suggested that you can use a v6 clutch disk and maybe you can but you would still have to source the proper pressure plate.
What many people don't know is that toyota used these flywheels again! From 08/92 to 10/95 the 4wd pick-up (only a 4wd) with a 22re had the larger flywheel and these trucks used the 9 1/4 clutch, so if you can find one of these trucks in the local junk yard the flywheel is the same as the original turbo flywheel. The clutch and pressure plate for the 08/85-05/88 22rte is the same as the 08/92-10/95 22re 4wd pickup. It is also the same as the 08/84-07/87 2.8 Cressida and the 09/81-12/85 2.8 Supra.
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Thanks Hadmatt!
Intresting info. I do have the 22rte flywheel but was trying to make it easy on my self to just use the 22re flywheel already on the engine. Besides, I might hold onto that other flywheel.
Intresting info. I do have the 22rte flywheel but was trying to make it easy on my self to just use the 22re flywheel already on the engine. Besides, I might hold onto that other flywheel.
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OMG, out of all the 22R/E Toyota 4WD's I've bought, sold or parted out... I never ran across one that had a 9 1/4 clutch in it... Well, maybe two The 2WD and 4WD Turbo I had/have.
I wonder what the significance in the 08/92-10/95 22re 4wd pickup is?
IMO, if you've got big tires, tow or 4wheel a lot you are most certainly NOT making things easy on you.
Yes, the RE clutch is fine, but you're only a fly wheel and V6 clutch away from a having a totally Heavy Duty-er setup than that...
And I have no idea where you're getting your parts from, but the same place you can get a RE clutch should be able to get you a V6...
And I'm not sure, but I don't see why a V6 pressure plate won't work?
If I hadn't took all mine off I'd tell ya if it'd work or not...
I wonder what the significance in the 08/92-10/95 22re 4wd pickup is?
IMO, if you've got big tires, tow or 4wheel a lot you are most certainly NOT making things easy on you.
Yes, the RE clutch is fine, but you're only a fly wheel and V6 clutch away from a having a totally Heavy Duty-er setup than that...
And I have no idea where you're getting your parts from, but the same place you can get a RE clutch should be able to get you a V6...
And I'm not sure, but I don't see why a V6 pressure plate won't work?
If I hadn't took all mine off I'd tell ya if it'd work or not...
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I've got a v6 clutch, but it is with some other parts in storage at the moment, but before I put my 22rte in my 4Runner I'll try that clutch and see what the differences are.
None of the online Toyota sites list the stock clutch for a 22rte turbo application, so it is hard to compare part #"s.
If you go on the centerforce clutch website to their online catalog and look up an 88 Pickup, you will see the clutch listings for all of the engines for that year, 22rte, 22re and 3vze and though the 22rte and the 3vze are both 9 1/4 clutches and have 1 1/8 21 spline inputs the part #'s are not even close.
What the difference is I'm not sure, depth of the pressure plate, # of mounting holes, mounting hole config...Who Knows?
None of the online Toyota sites list the stock clutch for a 22rte turbo application, so it is hard to compare part #"s.
If you go on the centerforce clutch website to their online catalog and look up an 88 Pickup, you will see the clutch listings for all of the engines for that year, 22rte, 22re and 3vze and though the 22rte and the 3vze are both 9 1/4 clutches and have 1 1/8 21 spline inputs the part #'s are not even close.
What the difference is I'm not sure, depth of the pressure plate, # of mounting holes, mounting hole config...Who Knows?
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Turbo's, mostly all, have different friction materials. My guess is b/c just about the time you let off the clutch, the Turbo is spooling up. And any slip would be more than a standard friction could deal with for 100,000 miles...
Plus, federal law says manufacturers have to make parts for only a set number of years...
Bottom line, if you've got an RET, get a Turbo clutch...
If not, just run a std. V6.
Plus, federal law says manufacturers have to make parts for only a set number of years...
Bottom line, if you've got an RET, get a Turbo clutch...
If not, just run a std. V6.
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Update: I tried a different angle with my search for OEM part #'s Original 22rte clutch disc part # was superseded, by another part # and so was the cressida and supra. What it comes down to is that the clutches in these have the same new oem part # which is the same for the 4wd 22re pickups to 95. Pressure plate same story, after running several #'s 22rte pressure plate is the same as cressida 5mge, supra 7mge non turbo and 4wd to 95.
These oem #'s are not the same as the v6 #'s from 89 to 95!
These oem #'s are not the same as the v6 #'s from 89 to 95!