bobbybouche

Hey Guys/Gals
Here we go again on a never ending trouble shoot. Here is a brief description and issue. If you can figure this problem out you win the biggest virtual cookie ever known to the internet.

Here we go
1994 4Runner 22RE 5-Speed 4x4
The truck idles perfect, starts perfect (cold or hot )
TPS is in spec
timing is at 5° with jumper
tonnes of new parts
NO CODES

Anyways, this problem existed when I got the lemon...I mean 4runner....
4runner pings on highway mostly, excessive ping when getting into the gas, which is a problem from its lack of power. If I were to guess it would be a good 18% loss. Now I have figured out this is a lean ping I'm getting from reading the plugs. Now for the though processing twist.....For whatever reason I decided to unplug the knock sensor, and what do you know, it stops pinging. Easy fix right? Wrong, replaced that knock sensor with, you guessed it, a knock sensor and of course I end up with the same problem. So I replace the ECU, and same problem. So any suggestions would be great, and just remember I have heard most, rechecked my work many times. So let the brain melt begin!

Thanks Peoples

T_F_E

I would check to see if the mark on your pulley really is top dead center.

toyota4x4907

Adjust the timing by ear/feel to band-aide it.
You might have so much carbon build-up that its causing hot spots and pre-detonating. So the Knock sensor retards the timing to help prevent damage. Thus, why when you unplug the KS, it works fine.

What do the spark pligs look like after being used?

bobbybouche

Thank you for the suggestion, already checked.

bobbybouche

Tried the timing by ear, 5° is really the best for this motor. No carbon build up, the engine has about 4000 miles on it. Plugs are almost white when KS is plugged in and the normal coco brown when the KS is unplugged.

Thanks for the reply

InternetRoadkill

EGR valve is not working properly or the fuel pressure to the injectors is too low.

westjohns yota

maybe a default knock sensor? try replaceing it again, this is why i love my 22r

dfarr67

I vote EGR- when's the last time the timing chain was done? The ecu should be advancing timing when egr is commanded- if it's plugged....

OrRunner

iTrader: (1)

EGR or are all your injectors firing at full capabilities, ie: were they rebuilt or flow tested when you had the motor done?

yotaman85

x2....

abecedarian

With the engine running, check the timing (no jumper), where's the timing mark?

With the engine running, check the timing (with jumper), where's the timing mark?

bobbybouche

Egr works perfect, only 4K on the motor so everything is new. This problem was passed to me from PO.

bobbybouche

between 12° and 14° without jumper

@ 5° with jumper

bobbybouche

Had the injectors rebuilt.

snobdds

How is your o2 sensor? The o2 sensor takes a reading from the exhaust and corrects the fuel trim to make it run not to rich and not too lean. I have seen non OEM (bosch) o2 sensors that don't heat up enough or do not stick into the exhaust far enough to provide accurate data back to the ecu.

I know you said there is not a check engine light, but a lot of the times the light won't light up, but there are codes in there.

I would also check your fuel pressure at the fuel rail. Just put a guage in the port for the fuel pressure regulator and see what your getting.

stock87

As in you've checked the EGR valve, or the PO told you it's working fine?

When you apply vacuum at idle, it should kill or nearly kill the engine. It's possible for the valve to work fine, but the passages to get gummed up. I know on the 22Rs, the sharp downturn in the pipe into the intake likes to carbon shut, even thought the valve itself is fine. I seem to recall the -REs have a fairly sharp turn into the back of the intake?

yotaman85

Fuel line blocked or fuel pump lacking? Try checking fuel pressure and cleaning out the fuel lins.

dfarr67

The egr diaphram may work- have you checked that the passages aren't carbed up.
You running the correct heat range for plugs?
You need to get a diagnostic flow chart.

skypilot

iTrader: (1)

Run the distributor check in the FSM. I wonder if one of the coils is out of spec.

xylicon

I have the same problem, new motor 11K on it, I've checked, re-checked, and quadruple checked the timing, egr, vacuum lines, leaks, etc. I also replaced every sensor and every ignition component on the engine, including a brand new distributor.

If I don't get it fixed soon I'm going to drive this truck off a cliff.