Gshock

I changed my oil after the initial 500 mile break in procedure. I bought Mobile 500 10W40 with those big 5.1 qt cans, during the process I attempted to " pre fill" the filter and realize it's almost damn near impossible without spilling it everywhere, so I dumped most of it back into the funnel.

Does anybody have any tricks or tips for prefills on the 3VZ's? lol. I hate to sound like a noob here. Oh and I checked my oil levels, I almost thought there was no none??? I had a hard time getting a reading, but when I took a peice of paper and ran it along I saw it absorb around " F".

arlindsay1992

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I never prefill the filters. I just get some oil on the o-ring and spin it on hand tight. Fill up the motor with about a quart less than the total amount. Start the truck. Run it for 10-15 seconds until the filter is full and oil pressure is up. Then keep adding until the level shows right on the dipstick.

Starting also helps mix the new oil with the residual old oil the is inevitably there so you can see it better when checking the level.

nothingbetter

I ALWAYS prefill the filter. Saves the bearing damage of having no oil pressure going through the system...even if just for a few seconds. Do 20 oil changes and it adds up. Seems too easy to NOT do it. It amazing how much oil those filters hold! Go buy a 1litre bottle of oil and use that to pre fill it. Or fill up an old 1L bottle thats laying around and use that.

arlindsay1992

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To each his own. I'm just stating how I like doing it. I don't think residual oil will have any problem keeping things lubed for a few seconds. Plus it's just idling, not being driven hard.

ksti

It doesn't matter if you pre fill or not your going to have some kind of friction anyway when you first start it.

Gshock

i'll check it again tomorrow, I drove it around a little bit all seems fine. I did notice the oil pressure gauge goes almost in the middle when idling and back up near the second line towards the end under high load? I'm guessing it has to do with RPM and should be normal right?

I havent had a chance to top it off, as I've used all 5.1 quarts in the bottle so I have to go get another quart tomorrow.

Gshock

I was talking in terms of screwing it on, I had it filled today and I was going to screw back onto the oil pan area. I did it too slow and oil starting getting all over my front suspension, So I decided to poor the remaining half back into the engine instead remember it screws back on at a angle.

ksti

Those gauges are not that accurate drive it around for a while and then look at the gauge when its idling.

TNRabbit

I fill the filter about half way & let it sit for a couple of minutes. It all absorbs into the media. Then you can screw it on easily. Saves a couple of precious seconds on startup~

Marc

If you've ever torn an engine down you'll notice that there is a film of oil on every surface that needs it.
I think if it was critical to pre-fill the filter they wouldn't have it mounted on a downward angle.

xylicon

The Toyota FSM for my 88 22RE does not state anywhere that an oil filter pre-fill is needed, nor does it say on the OEM filter packaging itself. I don't see why not filling it is such a big deal. As others have said, there should be enough residual oil for 2 to 3 seconds of low oil pressure. It can't be any worse than a the first cold start of the day.

But to each his own.

aa1911

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I could see where the prefill would be good but have never done it myself and how the heck would you honestly keep any amount of oil in the filter and still screw it on?

Unless you can defy gravity or have the ability to turn your truck upside down I would say any amount of prefill is negligable, unless there's something I'm missing.

I do coat oil on the threads and of course the rubber gasket but that's it. I do like the idea of filling it up and letting it sit for a few minutes, pouring the oil into the engine then screwing the 'lubed' filter on.

BMcEL

Yep, I just let the media absorb as much as it can, lube the o-ring, and screw it on. I figure it's better than putting it on dry, but there's no need to fill it first.

96vettelt4

easy little trick I use..take a plastic gallon milk jug and cut it from the bottom at an angle of about 45 degrees..u just want to cut like a U shape into it..simply slid it under the filter before you take it off and the oil will fall into the container..u can leave it there while u put the new filter on so it also can catch any oil that might happen to fall out..i,ve used this method for a long time and never spilled a drop of oil...leave the cap on the jug and u can take it off to drain any oil that fell into it....G

nothingbetter

sorry folks, I've never worked on one of your engines before. Didn't realize the filter was upside down...or is that rightside up? I dunno.

vette, liking the milk jug idea.