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Old 10-05-2008, 07:38 PM
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Oh snap! No start!

Whenever I go to start the car either in the morning or night (must be cold engine), and ever since it has gotten cooler out.

When I try to start it just clanks(starter contact) and clicks(relay), but just once, until I try again, and again, and again.

Finally after a bit if turning the the key alot, it starts. Usually normally, sometimes a bit rough then normal.

Last night was the worst, and also the coldest. It took like a good minute, minute and a half, and then when it finally started, it was really rough, even if I gave it gas, and then I grew concerned and then it was normal.

A little background info, I doubt the O2 sensor has ever been replaced. I realize this because no matter how I drive (from flooring & hard braking, to calm, gentle acceleration with a max of 2.5k RPM) I still only get 14.0 to 15.0 MPG. Even if I make it run rich or lean 3 clicks.

Please help!! Its my DD!

Thanks!
Old 10-05-2008, 07:57 PM
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O2 has no influence on cold starting.

pull your trouble codes, post them here
Old 10-05-2008, 08:38 PM
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Check your Cold start injector and cold start injector time(?) switch.....and like Abe suggested, have any codes?

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Old 10-05-2008, 10:30 PM
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No CEL, but I'll see if their is any codes (probably Tuesday)

I realize that the O2 has no influence on cold starting, but I was wondering if that would have to do with MPG, using the scenario I listed.
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my truck currently does this.. because my cold start sensor fell off.. but when it was getting weak she was having trouble starting cold and is only now throwing CEL
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ps is the vehicle idling high?
Old 10-06-2008, 01:35 PM
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uhh, you know I think its pretty normal. lol.

where is the cold start sensor exactly? Would that hove to do with the actual starting?

I should take a video.
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Ok guys, REALLY need some solid help.

Today I was 10 minutes+ late for school, and after school it took 5 minutes for it to even begin cranking.

After it starts to crank, it runs rough and if i let go (the key) it dies, so i give it gas, then it smooths itself out.

I REALLY need it because I can't turn the car off, otherwise it takes awhile. BTW, it gets worse everyday.

And it is not the battery, or the amp, or the charging system.

Could it be all i need is a big 3 upgrade, along with a new wire to the fuse box, or the relay inside by the pass footwell (it clicks loudly), or the starter itself, or the starter contacts?

I would REALLY appreciate all responses! thanks!
Old 10-09-2008, 08:55 PM
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I have a million things I could say right now, but I would get banned. :p

Long story short, I'm stuck 50+ miles from home in Chicago.

thankfully I wont get charged for overnight parking, but I won't be going to school tomorrow, so that kinda sucks.

Two guys tried to help me, but nothing worked. I mean a guy in FORD F350 was helping me, from West Virginia (and he claims that it has 211k on it ['04])

So now I have to pay to get it towed, plus a new starter. Oh the joys of bieng 17 and poor.

I have a video of me trying to start it, if you guys want me to post it.
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