Lummpus

OK so I just got my first Toyota. I've had it about 3 weeks I got a sweet deal. I traded a guy on Craigslist my 92 Honda Accord that had 276,000 miles on it for this 91 4Runner. It has 216,000 on the chassis but had a new engine and trans put it 43,000 miles ago. I grew up around Toyotas in fact I learned how to drive in a 83 Toyota 4x4 in the middle of a mud pit my mom looked and me and said its time you learned how to drive...lol. I wanna start doing some mods to it so I can wheel wheres a good place to start? I was already thinking about the cruiser coils and 1.5 inch BJ spacers. I would like to go SAS but that will be a while. its my DD and I can't afford for it to be down. till I get another rig to drive. any suggestions?

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Lummpus

that's what I have been doing for days...LoL. there's so much I want to do I don't even know where to start. I guess it all depends on what the budget allows.

sdstud212001

save up for a 3.4 swap from what I understand it's the thing to do.

Lummpus

maybe when the 3.0 I have dies. it only has 43,000 on it so it will ba a while.

toyota4x4907

Get a rear locker and replace the running boards with some rock sliders.

sdstud212001

Yeah I understand. I know 1st hand how much you want to do stuff to make it cooler but honestly u should take it to the limits as it is so you can appreciate the upgrades later. learn what it is capable of in stock form, you will be impressed, and then upgrade as needed. To me it just makes more sense that way I hate kids with snorkels who don't even take their trucks out of the mall parking lot.

Wheel it and then decide what is holding you back, that will be the best upgrades for YOU.

Lummpus

I've already lost the running boards and have a friend thats going to fab up some sliders for me. and possibly some bumpers. I've takin it out a few times already but I know what you mean sdstud. learn its limits now so I can appreciate it more after upgrades. makes sense. so heres a questiond for all of you I keep seeing people talking about "cranking" their torsion bars. so whats the deal with that? if I tighten the it can raise me up a little? I understand it make it a rough ride but when I got it the guy said he "cranked" the TB to bring the front down to compensate for sag. I replaced the bad shocks and now the back is high. i'm at 11 1/2 inches from the top of the wheel to the bottom of the fender right now. and barely off the bump stops. if i hit a small bump i hit them.

Jay351

you should be closer to 13" from fender lip to rim. What size tires you running?

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Lummpus

I'm running 235/75/15's. I have checked out your website I'm sure WabFab and I will be doing some biz!!

91 4Runner

The front should be closer to 15" from the top of the rim to the fender lip (between 14" and 15" for sure) The back end will allways be different due to the sag and the different wheel well profile (can't remember off hand what it's going to be) Cruiser coils and BJ spacers would be a good first mod, that and getting your torsion bars set close to stock. What gearing/transmission do you have? This info may dictate the order in which you do mods!

Here is a link that will help you decode the door sticker -
http://www.off-road.com/trucks4x4/ar....jsp?id=274535
for examle - G294 = G 8" diff, 29 4.10:1 gearing, 4 4pinion


A good rule of thumb for mods is....
1)Protection - keeps body nice
2)Lockers - increases traction and when used properly decreases breakage
2.5)Gears - when adding a locker it's a good idea to gear it at the same time
3)Tires - increases traction/ground clearence
3.5)Lift - depending on the desireed tire size you may find a lift is necessary, but 33x10.5 fit with very little effort

Hope this help!
Happy wheeling!
Larry

Lummpus

Thanks for the info Larry. It looks like I have 4.10 gears. Right now I have 235/75/15 tires but plan on going to 33/12.5/15. I have a 5 speed manual trans. What would be a good gears to go with? I figure when I get lockers I might as well gear it at the same time. I think I'm going to get my lockers and some armor before My coils and BJ spacers. when I gear it do I have to do anything to the transfercase?

91 4Runner

4.56 for fuel/highway - 4/88 if you want a bit more grunt!
No transfercase mods needed because the gearing will keep the speedo close.

Lummpus

Cool. Thanks again.

cdreed06

I won't tell you what to do but my truck has been lifted with the torsion bars in front by the PO and it rides so so so very rough. I intend to bring it back down when I can get time and some stock rear shackles. Not a good mod at all, better to spend a few bucks and do the front lift correctly.

Lummpus

I plan on only taking mine back to stock height. I've heard that the ride sucks if you go to high. I think when its time to lift I just need to go high enough to clear the tires I want.

91 4Runner

Bringing it up to stock height and BJ spacers/cruiser coils would give it a comfortable ride and the height to fit a good selection of tires. It's sad how those 235's fill the wheelwell, you definately need to get that back to stock height!