New Problem has shown its ugly face - Page 4

camo31"10.50" · 11-04-2009, 08:28 PM

wait a second.......the fast idle cam stuff is engaged by that coil whenever 12v gets applied to it...it chokes it...therefore engages the fast idle....wow..didn't realize that until just now...maybe i actually do know what im doing

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camo31"10.50" · 11-05-2009, 12:03 PM

ok got everything back together..and i double checked it all!..all i need to do is tap the holes for the electric choke....and then figure out which base plate gaskets to use...

there's three different ones..and i know i'll use 2 of them..but idk which 2..lol help me out with that one?

one of them looks EXACTLY like the bottom of the base plate..but the original gasket that came off of the base plate doesn't look like its the right one..

thats the bottom of the base plate...

the gasket on top is the gasket i took off it, its not the factory one..its the one that got put on there whenever somebody rebuilt it.

this is one of the gaskets in my kit...it fits the bottom of the base plate PERFECT...but idk if it supposed to be used since the one that came off of it doesnt look like that..

anybody?????..if i was a betting man..i'd say the one that i have on there is the right one..but yet again i just wanna be sure..LOL..

and why did i get 3 different gasket's for the base plate...i know which one goes on top...but that would mean that i have an extra..for what??

this is all the base plate gaskets i have...the one on the left is the one i think goes on the bottom of the base plate...the one in the middle goes between the base plate and carburetor, but the one on the right looks exactly like the 'cooked' (old) one i took off of the bottom of the base plate whenever i took the carb off.....so whats up with that???

camo31"10.50" · 11-05-2009, 04:36 PM

got the carb mounted..truck runs..but it STILL stumbles after about 3/4th's throttle..........

any more than 3/4's (when the bigger butterfly that's down at the base of the carb starts to open) then it just starts to cut out and falls flat on it's face.....idk wtf this problem is...it's been doing it for a long time...i just figured that when i lubed everything up during the rebuild that it would help it.....but it didnt..i want to get a video for you guys but i only have the video camera on my phone..and my computer won't upload them for some reason....

other than that, the only problem i'm havin is it's running a little lean i think...cuz it will stumble (this is at 1100 rpms) until i put my hands over the top of the carb (therefore only letting a little air in...instead of a whole gob) and it will idle like a dream...take my hands off..and it stumbles and eventually dies..

im gonna mess around with the mixture screw and see what happens..and the fuel bowl sight glass has a line of fuel just right above the middle of the sight glass...so i think im good there

just wanted to share this with ya guys!..even though it seems like you guys are just ignoring my thread..LOL just kidding i've gotten alot of help through PM's

camo31"10.50" · 11-05-2009, 05:19 PM

ok guys so now all the sudden it's dumping a LOT of fuel into the carb.....im gettin a big ole plume of black smoke out the exhaust...lol

wtf..i had it running fine a few minutes ago..now it's doin this??

the only thing i changed was that i adjusted the choke one turn....just like the guy over at the 22r carburetor FAQ page on bluebassdesign said to do it..

and then it idled fine (fast idle) but the choke flap will not open now?...at all.it just stays open about 1/8in alllll the time..even if i push it all the way open with my finger then i just springs back?

and i also noticed that whenever i push the choke flap open it raises the idle like crazy..lol

i believe i need to take it to a toyota specialist and get him to make it run right...because i am getting fed up with dealing with it...............

camo31"10.50" · 11-05-2009, 05:46 PM

bump back to the top....

camo31"10.50" · 11-05-2009, 07:06 PM

could the problem be a vacuum leak????

somebody said it could be a vacuum leak..maybe that's why there's 2 different gaskets that could go between the carburetor base plate and the manifold..LOL

camo31"10.50" · 11-06-2009, 03:03 PM

ok...it runs like a bat out of hell....but at less than 1500rpms it stumbles and is dumping a LARGE amount of fuel into the intake...im talkin A LOT...black smoke pouring out of the carb...

and it runs a little better once warmed up..

im thinking Vacuum leak...but that'd have to be a BIG vacuum leak wouldn't it????

the only vacuum leak that i'm aware of is on the Choke Opener Diaphragm...

anybody wanna she some light on this???

camo31"10.50" · 11-06-2009, 03:38 PM

OH YEA!..i almost forgot..

when i test drove it a bit ago..I HAD FULL THROTTLE AGAIN!!!!!!!! im sooo happy..i haven't been able to floor my truck and gain speed in over a year..it always stumbled and sputtered before..but not now!

although now it won't idle good..
BUMP..

camo31"10.50" · 11-06-2009, 04:47 PM

now im right back where i started from...

truck won't idle worth a ....at all..i mean none..

if the choke is closed or 1/8in open..then it will idle fine at 2200-2300 rpms..

but if i disengage the fast idle (open the choke plate..or give it throttle) then it will die almost immediately.............guys..im STUMPED...i'm ready to give up..i want to just sell this P.O.S. and be done with it...it's given me wayyyy more problems than any other vehicle i've ever owned..

this truck has been down more than it has been running....one headgasket..one bad camshaft..numerous other small problems along the way..carb issues after the first headgasket (i'm thinking the mechanic screwed something up...but he won't admit to it.)...continuing carb issues..bad ball joints..uppers and lowers..need to rebuild the idler arm..repack the bearings..new cv's..new TC output seal..rear wheel bearings..i mean son of a #$#@! when is it going to end...

the problem right now with the carb i'm guessing is simple...something nobody is thinking of..

im gonna replace the PCV valve (its cheap..and if i blow into it..it closes..but also leaks a little bit) while i'm at it i'll probably block that off and put a breather on the VC.

and another is the Choke Opener diaphragm..it has a hole in it..but i've been told that i don't even need that...that i can just block off the lines and be done with it....all it does is back the choke off after a bit..hell i can do that with my foot..

other than those 2 things......im lost..

the idle cut solenoid works fine..just like it should..i'm guessing the choke works?..i know that the coil inside does contract like it should.

and on top of all of that...i can't get anybody to reply to me on here...which really hacks me off..this is the least amount of help i've ever gotten...big disappointment yotatech...........although not everybody is an expert with the 22R motor

camo31"10.50" · 11-06-2009, 06:13 PM

ANYBODY!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!? i'm willing to try just about anything at this moment..

camo31"10.50" · 11-07-2009, 10:15 AM

......

xjdubber · 11-07-2009, 10:51 AM

you've screwed up somewhere in your carb rebuild. If i were you i'd go of to a wrecker pull a carb of something there. mount it to get your truck running and then tear back into you original carb.

camo31"10.50" · 11-07-2009, 11:07 AM

tried that..nobody within reasonable distance has a carb with an electric choke...actually none of them have a carb at all..lol

whenever i punch the gas to engage the fast idle.....it doesn't do anything..at all...so what im thinking is something is wrong there and my choke coil is messed up or somethin..im gonna go to a self service place in a little bit and see if i can find a electric choke (they don't keep inventory so idk if they have one or not..all i know is that they have a few toyota's) and if i can...then i'll probably take the choke..and maybe even the whole carb if the linkage is in good working order....just so i can see how it all works so i can make sure that i have everything like it should be..

camo31"10.50" · 11-07-2009, 01:34 PM

junkyard won't be open again until monday......

still trying to grasp the concept of why my carb isn't working properly..lol

xjdubber · 11-07-2009, 04:21 PM

your sure you got the float level set high enough?

camo31"10.50" · 11-08-2009, 08:55 AM

well the fuel level is right in the middle of the sight glass...and im assuming that's right because that's what people have told me....i guess i could adjust it a little higher though and see what happens

camo31"10.50" · 11-12-2009, 04:16 PM

ok i dont think the fast idle linkage is all working right...something isn't in the right place

but on another note...it seems as though once it drops below 1500rpms (round abouts that area..give er take a few hundred rpms) it seems as though the ignition cuts off....like it just STOPS firing...VERY sudden...it's as though you just turn the key off....

camo31"10.50" · 11-12-2009, 06:24 PM

and i just noticed...the distributor wasn't set right..so the timing was off...i put it at about where it used to be (when the truck ran good) thanks to a picture i had of that side of the motor...now it idle's better..at about 1600-1400 (it fluctuates) and i also noticed that the idle mixture screw doesn't do a damn thing to the motor.....i can screw it ALLLL the way in..and nothing..i can almost screw it ALLL the way out..and still nothing...

could it be stuck on the inside and therefore be keeping the mixture way rich???

camo31"10.50" · 11-14-2009, 09:17 AM

took the top of the carb back off (for about the 50th time) last night...and the needle valve fell apart (pics to come in a minute)..and now all the sudden i can't find how it goes back together...and i can't find the diagram that shows it either...if SOMEBODY as some advice..other than getting a new vehicle or giving up...give it to me..i have over $500 due for my college..and i can't afford a new truck..

*EDIT* heres the pics..

thats the piece that idk how it goes in..

and that brass piece in the center is the needle valve "seat"

camo31"10.50" · 11-14-2009, 12:06 PM

BUMP!!!! anybody??!?!?

camo31"10.50" · 11-14-2009, 03:23 PM

ok...it idles.....but very rough and it kinda "coughs" as well....and if i keep the passenger barrel partially covered (with my hand..or with the choke 'flapper') then it doesn't cough and i can idle it all the way down to about 800-900 rpms with no problems..but if i take my hand off the barrel then it dies....it seems to me like it's getting too much air?..or well not enough fuel..im gonna test my fuel PSI pretty soon..im about 95% sure that it's up to par though....as far as i know though i shouldn't need a fuel pressure regulator..but would this possibly be able to fix my problem????

camo31"10.50" · 11-15-2009, 07:34 AM

bump!!! anybody know why i would have to choke the motor (partially) to get it to run good??...fuel filter is brand spankin new...and im fairly sure none of the lines are blocked..and the idle mixture screw does absolutely nothing if i turn it....NOTHING...doesnt affect the carb at allll.. i can take the screw out and it still do the same thing..

xjdubber · 11-15-2009, 08:10 AM

are you pulling in some false air somewhere?

camo31"10.50" · 11-15-2009, 08:23 AM

Not that i have been able to find..i been sprayin the out of every place i can imagine tryin to find a vacuum leak..and it aint happenin..lol..

guess since it was running REALLY REALLY rich there for a while..i needa change out the plugs i'm sure they're fouled..

i took the choke opener diaphragm off...but the truck will still run better if i spray in the direction of where the choke opener diaphragm should be..kinda weird if ya ask me..i noticed i do kinda need the diaphragm though im gettin one from a junkyard tuesday (college monday)..i only need it to keep the fast idle linkage out of the way of the throttle linkage..

and i remember that i forgot to pull the jets..so after i replace the plugs and try a couple more things..im gonna tear back into the carb and clean out all the jets and what not..

xjdubber · 11-15-2009, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camo31"10.50"

i took the choke opener diaphragm off...but the truck will still run better if i spray in the direction of where the choke opener diaphragm should be..kinda weird if ya ask me..i noticed i do kinda need the diaphragm though im gettin one from a junkyard tuesday (college monday)..i only need it to keep the fast idle linkage out of the way of the throttle linkage..

Thats not kinda weird, that indicates a leak.

Quote:

Originally Posted by camo31"10.50"

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and i remember that i forgot to pull the jets..so after i replace the plugs and try a couple more things..im gonna tear back into the carb and clean out all the jets and what not..

cleaning the jets and passages is the most important part of tearing down a carb. get too it!

11-05-2009, 12:03 PM	#77 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,064	ok got everything back together..and i double checked it all!..all i need to do is tap the holes for the electric choke....and then figure out which base plate gaskets to use... there's three different ones..and i know i'll use 2 of them..but idk which 2..lol help me out with that one? one of them looks EXACTLY like the bottom of the base plate..but the original gasket that came off of the base plate doesn't look like its the right one.. thats the bottom of the base plate... the gasket on top is the gasket i took off it, its not the factory one..its the one that got put on there whenever somebody rebuilt it. this is one of the gaskets in my kit...it fits the bottom of the base plate PERFECT...but idk if it supposed to be used since the one that came off of it doesnt look like that.. anybody?????..if i was a betting man..i'd say the one that i have on there is the right one..but yet again i just wanna be sure..LOL.. and why did i get 3 different gasket's for the base plate...i know which one goes on top...but that would mean that i have an extra..for what?? this is all the base plate gaskets i have...the one on the left is the one i think goes on the bottom of the base plate...the one in the middle goes between the base plate and carburetor, but the one on the right looks exactly like the 'cooked' (old) one i took off of the bottom of the base plate whenever i took the carb off.....so whats up with that??? __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

11-05-2009, 04:36 PM	#78 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,064	got the carb mounted..truck runs..but it STILL stumbles after about 3/4th's throttle.......... any more than 3/4's (when the bigger butterfly that's down at the base of the carb starts to open) then it just starts to cut out and falls flat on it's face.....idk wtf this problem is...it's been doing it for a long time...i just figured that when i lubed everything up during the rebuild that it would help it.....but it didnt..i want to get a video for you guys but i only have the video camera on my phone..and my computer won't upload them for some reason.... other than that, the only problem i'm havin is it's running a little lean i think...cuz it will stumble (this is at 1100 rpms) until i put my hands over the top of the carb (therefore only letting a little air in...instead of a whole gob) and it will idle like a dream...take my hands off..and it stumbles and eventually dies.. im gonna mess around with the mixture screw and see what happens..and the fuel bowl sight glass has a line of fuel just right above the middle of the sight glass...so i think im good there just wanted to share this with ya guys!..even though it seems like you guys are just ignoring my thread..LOL just kidding i've gotten alot of help through PM's __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

11-05-2009, 05:19 PM	#79 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,064	ok guys so now all the sudden it's dumping a LOT of fuel into the carb.....im gettin a big ole plume of black smoke out the exhaust...lol wtf..i had it running fine a few minutes ago..now it's doin this?? the only thing i changed was that i adjusted the choke one turn....just like the guy over at the 22r carburetor FAQ page on bluebassdesign said to do it.. and then it idled fine (fast idle) but the choke flap will not open now?...at all.it just stays open about 1/8in alllll the time..even if i push it all the way open with my finger then i just springs back? and i also noticed that whenever i push the choke flap open it raises the idle like crazy..lol i believe i need to take it to a toyota specialist and get him to make it run right...because i am getting fed up with dealing with it............... __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

11-05-2009, 05:46 PM	#80 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,064	bump back to the top.... __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

11-05-2009, 07:06 PM	#81 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,064	could the problem be a vacuum leak???? somebody said it could be a vacuum leak..maybe that's why there's 2 different gaskets that could go between the carburetor base plate and the manifold..LOL __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

11-06-2009, 03:03 PM	#82 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,064	ok...it runs like a bat out of hell....but at less than 1500rpms it stumbles and is dumping a LARGE amount of fuel into the intake...im talkin A LOT...black smoke pouring out of the carb... and it runs a little better once warmed up.. im thinking Vacuum leak...but that'd have to be a BIG vacuum leak wouldn't it???? the only vacuum leak that i'm aware of is on the Choke Opener Diaphragm... anybody wanna she some light on this??? __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

11-06-2009, 03:38 PM	#83 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,064	OH YEA!..i almost forgot.. when i test drove it a bit ago..I HAD FULL THROTTLE AGAIN!!!!!!!! im sooo happy..i haven't been able to floor my truck and gain speed in over a year..it always stumbled and sputtered before..but not now! although now it won't idle good.. BUMP.. __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

11-06-2009, 04:47 PM	#84 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,064	now im right back where i started from... truck won't idle worth a ....at all..i mean none.. if the choke is closed or 1/8in open..then it will idle fine at 2200-2300 rpms.. but if i disengage the fast idle (open the choke plate..or give it throttle) then it will die almost immediately.............guys..im STUMPED...i'm ready to give up..i want to just sell this P.O.S. and be done with it...it's given me wayyyy more problems than any other vehicle i've ever owned.. this truck has been down more than it has been running....one headgasket..one bad camshaft..numerous other small problems along the way..carb issues after the first headgasket (i'm thinking the mechanic screwed something up...but he won't admit to it.)...continuing carb issues..bad ball joints..uppers and lowers..need to rebuild the idler arm..repack the bearings..new cv's..new TC output seal..rear wheel bearings..i mean son of a #$#@! when is it going to end... the problem right now with the carb i'm guessing is simple...something nobody is thinking of.. im gonna replace the PCV valve (its cheap..and if i blow into it..it closes..but also leaks a little bit) while i'm at it i'll probably block that off and put a breather on the VC. and another is the Choke Opener diaphragm..it has a hole in it..but i've been told that i don't even need that...that i can just block off the lines and be done with it....all it does is back the choke off after a bit..hell i can do that with my foot.. other than those 2 things......im lost.. the idle cut solenoid works fine..just like it should..i'm guessing the choke works?..i know that the coil inside does contract like it should. and on top of all of that...i can't get anybody to reply to me on here...which really hacks me off..this is the least amount of help i've ever gotten...big disappointment yotatech...........although not everybody is an expert with the 22R motor __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

11-06-2009, 06:13 PM	#85 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,064	ANYBODY!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!? i'm willing to try just about anything at this moment.. __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

11-07-2009, 10:15 AM	#86 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,064	...... __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

11-07-2009, 10:51 AM	#87 (permalink)
xjdubber Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 64	you've screwed up somewhere in your carb rebuild. If i were you i'd go of to a wrecker pull a carb of something there. mount it to get your truck running and then tear back into you original carb.

11-07-2009, 11:07 AM	#88 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,064	tried that..nobody within reasonable distance has a carb with an electric choke...actually none of them have a carb at all..lol whenever i punch the gas to engage the fast idle.....it doesn't do anything..at all...so what im thinking is something is wrong there and my choke coil is messed up or somethin..im gonna go to a self service place in a little bit and see if i can find a electric choke (they don't keep inventory so idk if they have one or not..all i know is that they have a few toyota's) and if i can...then i'll probably take the choke..and maybe even the whole carb if the linkage is in good working order....just so i can see how it all works so i can make sure that i have everything like it should be.. __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

11-07-2009, 01:34 PM	#89 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,064	junkyard won't be open again until monday...... still trying to grasp the concept of why my carb isn't working properly..lol __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

11-07-2009, 04:21 PM	#90 (permalink)
xjdubber Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 64	your sure you got the float level set high enough?

11-08-2009, 08:55 AM	#91 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,064	well the fuel level is right in the middle of the sight glass...and im assuming that's right because that's what people have told me....i guess i could adjust it a little higher though and see what happens __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

11-12-2009, 04:16 PM	#92 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,064	ok i dont think the fast idle linkage is all working right...something isn't in the right place but on another note...it seems as though once it drops below 1500rpms (round abouts that area..give er take a few hundred rpms) it seems as though the ignition cuts off....like it just STOPS firing...VERY sudden...it's as though you just turn the key off.... __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

11-12-2009, 06:24 PM	#93 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,064	and i just noticed...the distributor wasn't set right..so the timing was off...i put it at about where it used to be (when the truck ran good) thanks to a picture i had of that side of the motor...now it idle's better..at about 1600-1400 (it fluctuates) and i also noticed that the idle mixture screw doesn't do a damn thing to the motor.....i can screw it ALLLL the way in..and nothing..i can almost screw it ALLL the way out..and still nothing... could it be stuck on the inside and therefore be keeping the mixture way rich??? __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

11-14-2009, 09:17 AM	#94 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,064	took the top of the carb back off (for about the 50th time) last night...and the needle valve fell apart (pics to come in a minute)..and now all the sudden i can't find how it goes back together...and i can't find the diagram that shows it either...if SOMEBODY as some advice..other than getting a new vehicle or giving up...give it to me..i have over $500 due for my college..and i can't afford a new truck.. EDIT heres the pics.. thats the piece that idk how it goes in.. and that brass piece in the center is the needle valve "seat" __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009 Last edited by camo31"10.50"; 11-14-2009 at 09:32 AM.

11-14-2009, 12:06 PM	#95 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,064	BUMP!!!! anybody??!?!? __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

11-14-2009, 03:23 PM	#96 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,064	ok...it idles.....but very rough and it kinda "coughs" as well....and if i keep the passenger barrel partially covered (with my hand..or with the choke 'flapper') then it doesn't cough and i can idle it all the way down to about 800-900 rpms with no problems..but if i take my hand off the barrel then it dies....it seems to me like it's getting too much air?..or well not enough fuel..im gonna test my fuel PSI pretty soon..im about 95% sure that it's up to par though....as far as i know though i shouldn't need a fuel pressure regulator..but would this possibly be able to fix my problem???? __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

11-15-2009, 07:34 AM	#97 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,064	bump!!! anybody know why i would have to choke the motor (partially) to get it to run good??...fuel filter is brand spankin new...and im fairly sure none of the lines are blocked..and the idle mixture screw does absolutely nothing if i turn it....NOTHING...doesnt affect the carb at allll.. i can take the screw out and it still do the same thing.. __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

11-15-2009, 08:10 AM	#98 (permalink)
xjdubber Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 64	are you pulling in some false air somewhere?

11-15-2009, 08:23 AM	#99 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,064	Not that i have been able to find..i been sprayin the out of every place i can imagine tryin to find a vacuum leak..and it aint happenin..lol.. guess since it was running REALLY REALLY rich there for a while..i needa change out the plugs i'm sure they're fouled.. i took the choke opener diaphragm off...but the truck will still run better if i spray in the direction of where the choke opener diaphragm should be..kinda weird if ya ask me..i noticed i do kinda need the diaphragm though im gettin one from a junkyard tuesday (college monday)..i only need it to keep the fast idle linkage out of the way of the throttle linkage.. and i remember that i forgot to pull the jets..so after i replace the plugs and try a couple more things..im gonna tear back into the carb and clean out all the jets and what not.. __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

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