New guy new truck needs help
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New guy new truck needs help
So I just picked up a 1987 Toyota pickup. It's a 4x4 with manual transmission. The trucks emblems say it's the turbo charged model but the truck doesn't have a turbo. So here's my question this thing is a major dog when you're going uphill. I'm having trouble keeping it above 55 on a 75 mph road. 4th gear with my foot on the floor will keep it at 55 but no acceleration whatsoever.
This is my first Toyota and my first 4 cylinder at that. So tell me, is this normal or is something wrong here. My suspicion is that the trans was set up for a turbocharged motor and now that it doesn't have one it's not performing as it should. It's also killing my gas mileage which is why I bought the truck in the first place because my v8 dodge was killing me on gas.
Any thoughts or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
This is my first Toyota and my first 4 cylinder at that. So tell me, is this normal or is something wrong here. My suspicion is that the trans was set up for a turbocharged motor and now that it doesn't have one it's not performing as it should. It's also killing my gas mileage which is why I bought the truck in the first place because my v8 dodge was killing me on gas.
Any thoughts or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Not having any idea how many miles are on the engine it could just be old and tired.
Good tune up with air and fuel filter can make a big difference.
What size tires bigger tires do impact fuel mileage and performance. Then the amount of weight your carrying around tends to add up fast.
I had a 4Runner you could not pay me enough to drive on the interstate . I doubt I ever saw 65 mph unless it was going down hill.
What kind of mileage ??
The transmission should not really effect things
Gear ratio might .
These trucks no telling what may have been done.
Good tune up with air and fuel filter can make a big difference.
What size tires bigger tires do impact fuel mileage and performance. Then the amount of weight your carrying around tends to add up fast.
I had a 4Runner you could not pay me enough to drive on the interstate . I doubt I ever saw 65 mph unless it was going down hill.
What kind of mileage ??
The transmission should not really effect things
Gear ratio might .
These trucks no telling what may have been done.
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First, if you're used to driving a V8 Dodge, no 4-cylinder '87 Toyota is going to impress you with its power. Totally different design goals.
Second, 3000 rpm is the bottom of the power band for these engines, not the top. Run it up to 4000 rpm in 3rd if you need to to maintain 60mph going up big hills. It'll love you for it, and the gas mileage will be about as good as dogging it up the hill at lower rpms.
Third, let us know the rear end ratio and the tire size - that will help determine if you're set up for best performance. Also, what mileage are you getting?
I don't know how a turbo 22re differs from a non-turbo. It could well be that the cam is significantly different to account for the expected extra boost. Also if someone just ripped out the turbo with no other mods, the ECU is probably pretty confused.
Second, 3000 rpm is the bottom of the power band for these engines, not the top. Run it up to 4000 rpm in 3rd if you need to to maintain 60mph going up big hills. It'll love you for it, and the gas mileage will be about as good as dogging it up the hill at lower rpms.
Third, let us know the rear end ratio and the tire size - that will help determine if you're set up for best performance. Also, what mileage are you getting?
I don't know how a turbo 22re differs from a non-turbo. It could well be that the cam is significantly different to account for the expected extra boost. Also if someone just ripped out the turbo with no other mods, the ECU is probably pretty confused.
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So I just picked up a 1987 Toyota pickup. It's a 4x4 with manual transmission. The trucks emblems say it's the turbo charged model but the truck doesn't have a turbo. So here's my question this thing is a major dog when you're going uphill. I'm having trouble keeping it above 55 on a 75 mph road. 4th gear with my foot on the floor will keep it at 55 but no acceleration whatsoever.
there are so many ways to go here... engine weak, out of tune, etc., but i think that i would first calculate the gear ratio in the rear end: http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/4R_TechI...#Differentials
then look at your tire size, and see how those ratios compare to stock.
some of these turbo rigs(4runner vs. pickup) came with automatic transmissions, and the rear end gearing was different with an auto... but who knows what gearing is in there now.
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