needsomecam

I have a 1989 yota dually 2WD that i would really like to level.

Im going to need about 4 inches of lift in the front to level it. I cannot drop the back anymore due to clearane of the flatbed. I could lift the back but then i need to lift the front more.

I am not too familiar with lifting toyotas and would really like some expertise. BJ spacers or what not. I am not considering a SAS. So please if this is possible without a SAS i would rather do that.

Thanks very much for the help

littlecommando

just get you a front lift kit
you should be able to find it at your local 4x4 shop, and if you dont have one of those, they have it at 4 wheel parts

Matt16

Its a 2wd, they don't make lift kits for those as far as I know. There are BJ spacers for 2wd trucks, those lift about 1.5" though. Its going to be tough to lift your 2wd ifs 4".

By the way, wicked truck. Those duallies are as cool as any SAS rig. Way to go.

PS. SAS is only for 4wd. At least on Toyota's.

needsomecam

so id have to buy a 4 inh lift and only use the front parts?

scuba

Front lift kit as commando said.
Or like you said, BJ spacers would work up front, then either some new springs, or some Add a Leafs in the rear...

jason191918

Search for 2wd BJ spacers.

Noltz

Yep. Easiest solution is a 4" front bracket lift. Generally 2", maybe 2½" from the front is all that's possible without a bracket kit, long arms, or SAS.

Any overkill with the 4" kit can be leveled in the back with inexpensive shackles.

Edit: I totally missed that' it's a 2WD. This reduces your options a bit. 2wd ball joint lifts are available up to 1½". A little cranking of the torsion bars will net you 2" in the front. After that, I'd leave it alone, or you'll have to find some sort of solid axle to hang under the front.

needsomecam

would i be able to get 4 inches of lift out of this method?

needsomecam

any idea where i could find those brackets?

scuba

maybe not 4, 2 inches in front with that t-bar crank as noltz said with th BJ's (hah BJ's), and they have like 4" AAL's, which depending on how much you put on the flat bed, might bring it down a little bit make it more level

needsomecam

looks like i have to do a bracket lift and longer shocks

Matt16

First, why are you doing this? So it sits level? Lift the bed up a bit using a body lift kit, take a leaf out. A bracket lift is going to cost a tonne, look stupid and be pointless.

Alex 400

I say add a leaf in the back or a new leaf back. Do what matt16 said, and jack up the bed a little bit. Get ball joint spacers for the front and call it good.

Robert m

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since none of the guys that are giving you advise have a lifted 2wd let me help you. for the front, if you want more travel and a little better setup then stock, find a set of fabtech or downey upper arms and get a new set of thicker torsion bars from downey or sway-a-way, then do new shocks. with this same setup, i had just under 4'' of lift in the front of my truck. it rode nice and was pretty smooth. if you dont want to spend all that money right now then get a small body lift and crank the stock torsions up. the ride will get rougher but it still shouldnt be that bad if you put some good shocks on there.
i had a set of 1.5'' ball joint spacers and i hated them. the alignment guys couldnt get it to drive straight and it threw the geometry of the front end off.
and for the rear i would run a set of downey shackles. it will give you about 1.5'' of lift and it wont change the ride at all. again though you will need a good set of shocks.

abecedarian

well, I've got a lifted 2wd so...

if you can find it, fabtech used to make a 3.5" lift kit for the 2wd trucks. it's since been discontinued so...

obsessed motorsports has 3" lift spindles:
http://obsessedmotorsports.com/toyot...d_spindle.html

downey offers parts, nets 2-3":
http://www.downeyoff-road.com/Suspen...s/1979-95.html

total chaos has a kit as well:
http://www.chaosfab.com/92100.html

to get 4", I'd probably do the Obsessed Motorsports spindles + 1.5" bj spacers from SDORI or 4Crawler and relax the t-bars a bit

needsomecam

THANK YOU this is what i was looking for everyone was saying lift the back. This is perfect that you actually gave links.

Much appreciation.

Matt16

Hold on a sec, 2wd BJ spacers won't give you any lift on a 2wd! The torsion bar mounts to the lower control arm on a 2wd. That's going to make it difficult to find any decent lift as far as I can see.

I'm betting a lot of the less expensive "2wd lifts" are for 2wd 4runners which retained the torsion bar mounted to the UCA. To lift a 2wd truck, I wouldn't bet against you having to replace the UCA and LCA, ditch the t-bar and run a coilover. I'm betting the front lift is marketed to the dessert racing type who build prerunners.

drguitarum2005

am i the only one who
a) has seen plenty of bracket lifts on a 2wd
and
b) wants to know why you can't get a bracket lift for the front of a 4wd? assuming bolt holes and such are the same the only difference is the lack of a front drivetrain...

yotasavg

honestly, i used to run a 2wd before my 4runner, and i cranked the t-bars about two inches and ran AAL's in the back to level it. the ride up front was a little rough, so i wouldn't do so much if i did it again. however, i would look into 2wd ball joint spacers, or lift spindles and just lift the rear to match once the front end is lifted some.

abecedarian

@Matt16- yeah, it seems counterintuitive since the torsion bars are on the lower arm with the 2wd suspension. but the BJ spacers will allow you to crank in more lift on the t-bars without compromising travel since the upper arm limits droop. BJ spacers on a 2wd accomplish the same thing that fabtech and other kits do with their replacement upper arms- pushing the spindle down and out to compensate for the change in alignment angles.
The major problem with lifting the front on a 2wd truck are the struts that run back from the front / center of the frame to the lower arms- with too much lift, those struts will pull the lower arm towards the front of the truck. Downey offers a drop bracket for those struts when there is excessive lift cranked in.