fireman1559

i was skimming through my summit catalog and i saw this i found it on jegs but its what i am talking about http://www.jegs.com/i/MSD/121/6470/1...747792%7C10385 would that work for our trucks?

norcalsvx

yep it would work

muddpigg

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http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku It's made by Mallory.

is what I'm running, looked at the MSD offroad, kinda glad I didn't. The performance gains haven't been what they claim nor the mpg's neither. The price is less than MSD and the rev limit is peace of mind. Though Toyota has a built in Rev limiter in the ECU. Set mine just over my cam's powerband.

SwampThing

So are there any carb approved ignition boxes? Would be nice to give a little bit more pep to my tired 22r...

abecedarian

and the MSD requires the yota ignitor to be operational.

abecedarian

I could roast some habeneros for you, if you think it'd help.
And you're in Texas, so what does CARB certification mean to you?

muddpigg

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So does the Summit box. uses the same as the adaptor as MSD.

abecedarian

So are you suggesting Mallory... or maybe Jacobs?

SwampThing

Carb certification and emission certification mean two completely different things to me. The former meaning that it'll work with a carb, the latter meaning that with this product you will still be able to pass all that hippy nonsensical mumbo-jumbo. Or should those two terms be interchangeable as far as these ignition boxes are concerned?

muddpigg

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As I mentioned earlier in hind site I don't think their all the cracked up to be.

abecedarian

CARB certification means "California Air Resource Board" certification, meaning it has a California A.R.B. Executive Order permitting it for use on an emissions controlled vehicle within the state of California (and any other state that follows California's standards). Not that it works on a carbureted vehicle.
CARB certification is more strict than Federal smog standards, so if it has CARB certification, you can use it anywhere in the rest of the country.
States have two options for smog control, as mandated by the EPA: follow Federal guidelines or follow California.

SwampThing

Hah well you learn something new every day. They should make it read C.A.R.B. Certified, so there's no confusion for those of us who know nothing of california or they're crazy rules and acronyms and whatnot lol.

So it will work on a carb'd (non cali acronym intended) motor, right?

abecedarian

lol...
it is acceptible for use on the vehicle the C.A.R.B. E.O. is written for.

and mind you, those damn magnet on the fuel line things have a C.A.R.B. number... because they don't hurt fuel economy or emissions... they don't work either.

SwampThing

Magnets on fuel lines? What's that supposed to be for, magnetic particulates in the fuel?

Silly people

taikowaza

just my 2cents on aftermarket ignition for 4runners- I personally now feel that they're not the best upgrade for our trucks. I had a Jacobs full-blown ignition for a few years before it crapped out and almost left me stranded. Some thoughts on my experience-

-it was tricky to install (for some it will be super easy, but for me, tricky to get it set up right, properly gapped, needed specific parts, etc).
-even though I got a great deal, it was still not cheap.
-the performance gains were slight. Some would even say psychological, but for me they were real, but slight.
-starting was slower.
-reliability was less! And for me this was the kicker that caused me to go back to stock. Since I had not brought my cables to reinsert the stock ignition I had to limp back on the Jacobs.
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That said I have heard good things about MSD and if I were to do it again I might try MSD, but after my experience with aftermarket ignitions, and seeing how solid and reliable our stock ignitions are, I just don't think the price/performance investment is worthwhile. If I were you I would use that money to regear a bit lower for more torque, get headers, or a cam.

dirtoyboy

If it aint broke dont fix it......


Leave it stock..

Hilux808

This box should work with our trucks, call MSD to make sure, its built tougher then the red boxes to withstand more vibrations from off-road. I've been using a complete MSD 6A & MSD import tach adapter for over 4 years with 100k on it now. It wasn't hard to install (I spent more time making brackets then anything else). On long trips my MPG can jump to 23-25 miles per gallon which is great considering my 91' 4Runner is rated for 19 city & 21 hwy. I now have 31" tires so it doesn't get that anymore. The MSD makes the engine idles a lot smoother also. I could feel a slight power difference but not much (It takes a lot of mods on an engine to increase HP). I definitely think it was a great upgrade but I go through spark plugs pretty fast. I change them every 10K and I use stock NGK's as recommended by an MSD tech, gapped about .010 more then stock.

If you don't plan to off road 24/7 then you can get away with using the MSD 6A red box. It's been nothing but reliable to me and I love the ignition kill feature that the box has, just install a toggle switch and the engine will not start until the switch is turned on.