Boxer54

Hey guys so i decided i wanna make my truck more of the pre runner/ baja truck than a rock crawler. Im looking in to long travel suspension set ups up front and i haven't been able to find any that don't require me finding a t100 axel for the front to keep 4wd. Does anybody know of any set ups that i can use without having to change out my front axel???

peow130

Uhhhhh...
By T100 "Axel", they usually mean the CV joint. Not the entire Differential..
The T100 CV is longer, and you have to use it because the Upper/Lower Control Arms are longer. That is, if you plan on keeping it 4WD.
Pre-Runners are only 2wd, so if you're aiming for pre runner you're supposed to just ditch all your 4WD hardware.

camo31_10.50

do a search for Blaznoffroad (i think..) he has a special LT kit that alot of people are starting to talk about..

and yes the T-100 axle is JUST the CV AXLE..not the differential..

which is basically what all LT kits need essentially..

i think Total Chaos has some " upgraded" HIGH FREAKIN DOLLAR CV's..

but the t-100 CV axles work perfect for almost all LT setups i believe

our stock CV's cant handle the travel that a long travel kit offers...

peow130

They also aren't long enough, lol.

abecedarian

the T100 'axle' part has to do with the 'shaft' being longer than the regular truck's shaft. nothing to do with the CV's. Total Chaos' kit's options include Porsche inner CV's since they can articulate... um... I mean... handle the torque when the axle droops.
You need the longer T100 axle because the spindle is pushed 'out' from the frame.
Basically, the wheels are pushed out as wide as a T100's wheels are, so you need longer axles.

Jay351

total chaos is probibly the best route to go. But unless you got a few grand burning a hole in yer pocket....

camo31_10.50

well when i say CV's...obviously i mean CV shafts...

Robert m

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thats not true. while the majority are 2wd, there are lots of 4x4 "prerunner" and desert trucks out there. which is why companys like total chaos and camburg make 4x4 kits.

to the OP like everyone else has said, only way to get long travel is to get longer CV axles.

trust me when i say that long travel is not cheap and with it will come a whole other mess of expenses they you dont really think about (i.e. shocks/coilovers, fiberglass fenders, steering upgrades to name a few) and will cause your build budget to snowball. then you have to think about the rear because its pointless to have a good setup in the front and then be basically stock in the back.

Boxer54

Yeah i kind of figured yesterday what they meant by T100 axels lol
I mean i'm not going to make it a full blown competition style truck..just something that can tackle the bumps at reasonable/high speeds and and looks good in the process haha

peow130

Uhhhhh...
The "Pre-Runner" is a 2WD truck with 4WD suspension...
It looks 4wd, but is 2wd.

A 4WD with long travel isn't a pre-runner, because it's still 4WD...

".... The diff lock is available with the TRD package.
All it is, is a 4x4 model, without the transfer case, front diff, or 4 wheel drive shifter (two more cupholders in it's place).

The differences of a prerunner and a standard are somthing like this:
Coil over shocks vs. Torsion bars
Ground clearance comparable to the 4x
6 lug vs. 5 lug,
If it's a 4 cyl, you get the 2.7L instead of the 2.4L
Your gear ratio is also different in the pre-runner from the factory due to:
Larger tires (265/75/16) and 16" wheels
oh, and you get fender flares (not the same as 4x4 model's flares) and a different bumper valence.

I believe the prerunner has a larger radiator also, but that may just be because of the engine difference...."

This is tacoma-related, of course.

You can make your non-taco truck into a prerunner by taking out the front CV's, driveline, diff, and putting in 2WD style hubs and spindles (though not always necessary).

Robert m

iTrader: (2)

uhhhh.....
again, your wrong.
the term pre runner has been around long before toyota used it in the tacoma name plate. the term comes from race teams who built a different vehicle to go out and PRE RUN a race coarse rather then tear up the race truck. 2wd or 4x4 has nothing to do with it.

peow130

whaaatever.

tc

Um, no, not whaaaatever.

Robert m has it right on. Pre-runner only designates 2WD in Toyota marketing jargon. Most race teams build up a super comfortable truck (seriously - dual air conditioners, super comfortable seats, kickin' stereo) to take through the course and see the conditions, enter waypoints in the GPS, etc. Some use 4WD, others 2WD.

Generally, it's easier to get massive wheel travel with a 2WD (and in most cases the race vehicle is 2WD), otherwise everyone would use 4WD for sure.

Boxer54

Ok another question..bumper or no bumper?
The reason i ask is i plan on putting lights but with bumpers you are limited to the amount you can put i plan on putting about 5 lights up front