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Old 03-07-2010, 11:35 AM
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Long travel front, rear?

so ive thought long and hard and long travel is for me, so i ordered my king shocks the other day, and savin some dough for TC kit but im contemplating on what to do in the rear. i know leafs is cheaper easier and work good but would a 3 link be a way to go? i see advantages in both and from what i read a 4 link on my 4runner i would have to chop up way to much of the bed. just lookin to get some input. thanks guys. 90 4runner 3.0 auto 4x4
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4 link with coilovers would be better imo.
The 3 link makes the axle move left and right slightly, and with a 4 link you can run long travel coilovers.

You could do spring under axle leaf springs, and it would have some pretty good droop.
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Leaf spring under axle? That's the 2wd truck setup.
Leaf over axle (i.e. stock 1st gen, all 4wd trucks) would droop just as well, and have about 3-4" more lift.

But it's a 90 with coils we're talking about.

So, 90runnerfan- the TC LT kit will push your front wheels wide, about 3" wider over stock on each side. You might consider a T100 rear axle to keep the rear track width similar to the front. Sorry I can't help you much beyond that though.
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I'd rather buy another 4WD, than buy that TC kit...

EDIT: You still have the same front diff and shafts, only longer...

So why pay for that? With a SA kit (and you'll need a coil front, not leaf) you get a super common 8" diff, one set of joints, and all the aftermarket you can hope for.

So for the same coin, you get stronger axles as well...? Whoa, man... heavy...

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Originally Posted by tried4x2signN
I'd rather buy another 4WD, than buy that TC kit...

EDIT: You still have the same front diff and shafts, only longer...

So why pay for that? With a SA kit (and you'll need a coil front, not leaf) you get a super common 8" diff, one set of joints, and all the aftermarket you can hope for.

So for the same coin, you get stronger axles as well...? Whoa, man... heavy...
How well does a SA setup work for higher speed stuff though? Seems like long travel IFS setups are more popular among the desert racing crowd.

I'd like to see what folks are doing for the rear axle too, I've been kicking the long travel idea around also.
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Originally Posted by wreckedrex
Seems like long travel IFS setups are more popular among the desert racing crowd.

Why not specify those are your intentions in your thread then?

if you don't need desert racing, then I suggest you make a baby Fj80 out of it...

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yea, kinda still no sure but leanin towards leafs, i perfer high speed stuff than rock crawlin, besides big bear you can do in IFS no problem you dont need solid axle for everything but they both look cool all flexed out.
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Originally Posted by tried4x2signN
Why not specify those are your intentions in your thread then?

if you don't need desert racing, then I suggest you make a baby Fj80 out of it...
OP didn't mention hardcore crawling or anything else that would suggest he need a SAS either I assumed the choice to mod the ifs setup was made for a reason.
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heres a pretty cool truck. hes running a long shackle above framerail. i think deaver springs




the full build. prepared to be wowed.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=859418
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Your 4link will do fine, especially if you build some longer links with flexier joints ... or you can go whole hog like I did
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...thread-153382/
There really isn't any reason/need to go to coilovers. Separate springs/shocks work just as well, and package in a much shorter height.

If you want to do leafs, understand that they are not quite as easy as the internet would lead you to believe. Here's a long travel setup I did for a friend:
http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=138937

Start reading up on the desert section of TTORA and race-dezert.com. In particular, look for a 3rd gen buildup by "Chaplain". Building these trucks is a lot more exacting than building a pure rock crawler, but you are rewarded with the best all-around setup IMHO.
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@Abe, somebody on here mentioned that with the leafs under the axle, then there is more droop.
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Originally Posted by peow130
@Abe, somebody on here mentioned that with the leafs under the axle, then there is more droop.
that was probably me
quoted from dezertrangers
Originally Posted by matt_helton
the bennefits to a SUA are as follows.......

more total wheel travel and more up travel from ride height while still allowing for a super low ride height. axle wrap/wheel hop is also greatly reduced with an SUA set up.
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I don't buy the "more travel" bit ... definitely lower ride height.
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who sells thos fenders?
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on which truck? ^
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akaphilly's post the one on the lift i have seen a few trucks with that baja front fender where are they getting them?
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poly performance
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Google fiberglass fender toyota ...

Toyota fiberglass, Hanneman, there's several manufacturers of them
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yea i got hanneman on my runner bought them used, they have some small small small cracks for 50 bucks love em just need to change out the rear coils for now to make it look a bit better.
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nice build


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