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littlerunner · 01-31-2007, 06:59 PM

964ruunerky,thats me.thook,thanks for the encouragement,i think your totally right.i've rebuilt a few engines in my day.still makes me nervous though-seem to always 2nd guess something-i'm still on the fence between rebuilding & putting in a reman.i like the idea of having someone else carry the warranty but that warr costs about an xtra $1000.i'm not sure its actually worth it.

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4Rocker · 01-31-2007, 10:06 PM

After having my dad give me the chance to rebuild my 84 22r, i would totally recommend doing the rebuild together. He will learn alot from it and hopefully the skills learned will stick with him forever. I didnt know much about about auto mechanics back when i was 16 but now (20) i feel comfortable doing ANY kind of work on my truck. Speaking from experience i would recommend keeping the 3.0 in there for safetys sake. My 22r (i think) has pretty decent power, and im pretty sure if i had my dads 3.4 5spd i would have gotten myself into alot more trouble (that thing feels like a rocket to me). Despite what many people around here say the 3.0 is not a bad motor so dont let that discourage you. I question how many of the people suggesting a swap have actually attempted one themselves. There is a LOT of work involved.

littlerunner · 02-03-2007, 05:12 PM

intake came off today.gotta climb under tomorrow maybe & gey to the exhaust crossover nuts.started taking some pics.have to go buy a kreeper to stay off the cold concrete.bought new overhead lights today.only have 4 single bulb fluorescents now-can't see crap.hopefully get the heads off then next weekend get the block out.thinkin of havin it bored 20 over while the heads are being rebuilt.any opinions on 20 over pistons from engnbldr

littlerunner · 02-04-2007, 02:56 PM

2 new overhead lamps installed today.got right side head off.valves sucked up on 1 & 3.took pics but can't find cd for camera after buying new computer for christmas.cylinders are pretty slick.feel confident about pulling block & having it cut 20 over

1stgenrnrdude · 02-04-2007, 03:18 PM

3.4 swap

littlerunner · 02-04-2007, 04:25 PM

i can rebuild it a lot cheaper than a swap

littlerunner · 02-06-2007, 06:33 PM

got the left head off tonight.all looks ok on it.going to rpl valves anyway.rounded off nut on downpipe to manifold.ended up taking manifold loose from head.going to try to snake manifold & pipe out when get block out to drill & retap manifold stud.start ordering parts next week hopefully

964runnerKY · 02-06-2007, 08:05 PM

Good luck, littlerunner!!

littlerunner · 02-11-2007, 04:19 PM

engine came out & torn down today.block,heads & flywheel go to machine shop tomorrow.japanese engines are incredible!!!this rig a 303,000 miles & the bearings look like they just came out of the box.

wontonrunner · 02-17-2007, 08:54 AM

Cudos on atempting to rebuild the motor!!!

I highly doubt that i will ever attempt such a feat.

I have a spare for if mine ever goes. Mines been kinda knocking for a year and i have been waiting for it to go....but it just wont. I really like these motors and I really like these A340 auto tranny...except when the tps crapps out.

However i have a 4.3 waiting to go in as well....someday.

Anyways....you stole my name!!! I have been using Littlerunner on every forum that I belong to for several years now. All the canadian forums and Pirate....grrrr...Jj. My runners no longer little anymore so you can have it.

Good luck with the rebuild!!!!

littlerunner · 02-25-2007, 02:27 PM

sorry about the name.brought it home & justed started calling it the littlerunner.have 97 4runner also.wife drives it-don't even say off-road when around it-finally got some pics of progress.adjusting valves now.both cam cam bolts on #1 pulled the threads.-that stinks-will put heli-coils in.

littlerunner · 02-25-2007, 03:05 PM

da** it,just noticed i got the heads reversed.luckily only have valves adjusted on one side.thanks to pics on here was able to make sure.stud on front of right head for pwr strng.also could still see marks of t.belt tensioner.

thook · 02-25-2007, 03:10 PM

Hey! Do what you like, but you can just put longer bolts in the cam caps. Just might have to use a spacer or two. I did it and so have others. It works and saves having to do the helicoil.

CyMoN · 02-25-2007, 03:42 PM

when I have the funds I plan on buying a 3.0 to rebuild just for the experience

and I have a answer for the speeding teens
in high school a buddy of mine and his dad restored a 67 nova and it was fast so his dad as a extra step to prevent him from speeding welded a piece on 1/4" steel to the bottom of the gas pedal so he could not go over 55 miles per hour.
when he turned 18 his dad removed the steel.
funny thing was about 2 months after he turned 18 he sold the nova and got a escort

misterzee · 02-25-2007, 05:38 PM

Good Luck with that rebuild!! You're brave! :-)

littlerunner · 02-25-2007, 05:40 PM

longer bolts may be a better alternative.thought about that when i was redoing the valve adj because i put the wrong cam & caps on one head.what a dumba$$

littlerunner · 02-25-2007, 06:25 PM

don't know about brave-too tight to buy a reman.don't have to have the truck right away so have plenty of time

964runnerKY · 02-26-2007, 08:46 AM

Looks like your coming along. The weather has been terrible to work in even in a garage lately. I can't wait until it stays in the 60's. I have to fix one of my mustangs and have been putting off because it is too cold and our shop doesn't have the gas hooked up right now. I have to replace a oil pan that started leaking due to a small crack that some how appeared.

thook · 02-26-2007, 10:26 AM

Littlerunner,
There is a certain amount of bravery involved in taking on a project like this regardless of the reasons... in my book. You take the responsibility out of a "mechanic's" hands and put it all in your own. It can be a scary proposition if you're not real familiar with it all, as you have recently discoverd...lol! Try putting the headbolts on without the spacers! I did that, and apparently so have others. I broke two of the new headbolts in the process and had to drill them out. I even had to replace the new headgasket. $$$! Good thing I didn't warp my head. And, good thing you caught your oversight in the process, eh? (I refer to "real" mechanics. There are those who like to call themselves mechanics, yet would be more suited to plunging toilets....seriously. And no, I don't consider myself a mechanic...lol)

CyMoN....very crafty of your father.

littlerunner · 02-27-2007, 05:52 PM

well i did turn wrenches for 10 yrs at a nissan dealer for 10 yrs.got the oppurtinity to take over as service manager 6 yrs ago.have been service manager at a toyota dealer for the past 5 yrs.not afraid of the wrench but after you haven't done stuff like that for a while its kinda physically demanding.i also feel fortunate to have my techs around for advice if needed & can buy oem parts at 10% over cost.hopefully in a couple weeks the littlerunner will be back up & we'll see if i've still got what it takes.ome shocks & coils & 32s come after that.also set up account with ARB at dealer so that wrks pretty well also.

littlerunner · 03-04-2007, 03:42 PM

crank is in block,turns free,rings on pistons,picked up engine stand today for 25 bucks.have to get some longer bolts to attach engine.hope to be smellin smoke by the end of march

littlerunner · 03-26-2007, 07:41 PM

short block is back in truck.ac compressor & starter mounted.looking forward to gettin done.even though i don't have to have it i miss driving it

littlerunner · 04-01-2007, 09:49 AM

finally startin to look like something again

even got a little somethin special for her

thook · 04-01-2007, 11:11 AM

Woohoo...how exciting! Looks very nice. << applause!! >>

littlerunner · 04-01-2007, 02:21 PM

thanx,hope to have it running by next weekend.get the shocks on & maybe in a couple months get the rear springs.

01-31-2007, 10:06 PM	#27 (permalink)
4Rocker Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 377	After having my dad give me the chance to rebuild my 84 22r, i would totally recommend doing the rebuild together. He will learn alot from it and hopefully the skills learned will stick with him forever. I didnt know much about about auto mechanics back when i was 16 but now (20) i feel comfortable doing ANY kind of work on my truck. Speaking from experience i would recommend keeping the 3.0 in there for safetys sake. My 22r (i think) has pretty decent power, and im pretty sure if i had my dads 3.4 5spd i would have gotten myself into alot more trouble (that thing feels like a rocket to me). Despite what many people around here say the 3.0 is not a bad motor so dont let that discourage you. I question how many of the people suggesting a swap have actually attempted one themselves. There is a LOT of work involved. __________________ 84 4Runner SR5 22R, 5spd, 31" BFG ATs,custom bumpers 08 FJ Cruiser Sandstorm, 6MT, All-Terrain Package, Rock Rails, BFG A/Ts

02-03-2007, 05:12 PM	#28 (permalink)
littlerunner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: kentucky Posts: 412	intake came off today.gotta climb under tomorrow maybe & gey to the exhaust crossover nuts.started taking some pics.have to go buy a kreeper to stay off the cold concrete.bought new overhead lights today.only have 4 single bulb fluorescents now-can't see crap.hopefully get the heads off then next weekend get the block out.thinkin of havin it bored 20 over while the heads are being rebuilt.any opinions on 20 over pistons from engnbldr __________________ 91 4runner,5spd,bone stock,rblt 3.0 @ 303,000 miles.OME 900 rear springs,front & rear shocks.97 runner wifeys

02-04-2007, 02:56 PM	#29 (permalink)
littlerunner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: kentucky Posts: 412	2 new overhead lamps installed today.got right side head off.valves sucked up on 1 & 3.took pics but can't find cd for camera after buying new computer for christmas.cylinders are pretty slick.feel confident about pulling block & having it cut 20 over __________________ 91 4runner,5spd,bone stock,rblt 3.0 @ 303,000 miles.OME 900 rear springs,front & rear shocks.97 runner wifeys

02-04-2007, 03:18 PM	#30 (permalink)
1stgenrnrdude Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Leesburg, VA Posts: 544	3.4 swap __________________ "Better to be pissed off, than to be pissed on." -mr.gregory www.midatlantictoyotacrawlers.com

02-04-2007, 04:25 PM	#31 (permalink)
littlerunner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: kentucky Posts: 412	i can rebuild it a lot cheaper than a swap __________________ 91 4runner,5spd,bone stock,rblt 3.0 @ 303,000 miles.OME 900 rear springs,front & rear shocks.97 runner wifeys

02-06-2007, 06:33 PM	#32 (permalink)
littlerunner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: kentucky Posts: 412	got the left head off tonight.all looks ok on it.going to rpl valves anyway.rounded off nut on downpipe to manifold.ended up taking manifold loose from head.going to try to snake manifold & pipe out when get block out to drill & retap manifold stud.start ordering parts next week hopefully __________________ 91 4runner,5spd,bone stock,rblt 3.0 @ 303,000 miles.OME 900 rear springs,front & rear shocks.97 runner wifeys

02-06-2007, 08:05 PM	#33 (permalink)
964runnerKY Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Paducah KY Posts: 356	Good luck, littlerunner!! __________________ 1996 Toyota 4runner 4x4 FOR SALE W/O Satoshi Grille Mod, 99 rear coils, Landcruiser rims FOR SALE, 320,000 original miles 2005 Ford Freestyle 1994 Mustang Gt Convertible 2001 Nissan Maxima 2007 Chrysler Sebring 2005 QX56 Infiniti 4x4 loaded!! Low miles http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...1/DSC00171.jpg

02-11-2007, 04:19 PM	#34 (permalink)
littlerunner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: kentucky Posts: 412	engine came out & torn down today.block,heads & flywheel go to machine shop tomorrow.japanese engines are incredible!!!this rig a 303,000 miles & the bearings look like they just came out of the box. __________________ 91 4runner,5spd,bone stock,rblt 3.0 @ 303,000 miles.OME 900 rear springs,front & rear shocks.97 runner wifeys

02-17-2007, 08:54 AM	#35 (permalink)
wontonrunner Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Regina Canada Posts: 14	Cudos on atempting to rebuild the motor!!! I highly doubt that i will ever attempt such a feat. I have a spare for if mine ever goes. Mines been kinda knocking for a year and i have been waiting for it to go....but it just wont. I really like these motors and I really like these A340 auto tranny...except when the tps crapps out. However i have a 4.3 waiting to go in as well....someday. Anyways....you stole my name!!! I have been using Littlerunner on every forum that I belong to for several years now. All the canadian forums and Pirate....grrrr...Jj. My runners no longer little anymore so you can have it. Good luck with the rebuild!!!!

02-25-2007, 02:27 PM	#36 (permalink)
littlerunner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: kentucky Posts: 412	sorry about the name.brought it home & justed started calling it the littlerunner.have 97 4runner also.wife drives it-don't even say off-road when around it-finally got some pics of progress.adjusting valves now.both cam cam bolts on #1 pulled the threads.-that stinks-will put heli-coils in. __________________ 91 4runner,5spd,bone stock,rblt 3.0 @ 303,000 miles.OME 900 rear springs,front & rear shocks.97 runner wifeys Last edited by littlerunner; 02-25-2007 at 02:30 PM.

02-25-2007, 03:05 PM	#37 (permalink)
littlerunner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: kentucky Posts: 412	da** it,just noticed i got the heads reversed.luckily only have valves adjusted on one side.thanks to pics on here was able to make sure.stud on front of right head for pwr strng.also could still see marks of t.belt tensioner. __________________ 91 4runner,5spd,bone stock,rblt 3.0 @ 303,000 miles.OME 900 rear springs,front & rear shocks.97 runner wifeys

02-25-2007, 03:42 PM	#39 (permalink)
CyMoN Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: INDIANA Posts: 2,164	when I have the funds I plan on buying a 3.0 to rebuild just for the experience and I have a answer for the speeding teens in high school a buddy of mine and his dad restored a 67 nova and it was fast so his dad as a extra step to prevent him from speeding welded a piece on 1/4" steel to the bottom of the gas pedal so he could not go over 55 miles per hour. when he turned 18 his dad removed the steel. funny thing was about 2 months after he turned 18 he sold the nova and got a escort __________________ my rigs 89 4runner 1989 4runner v6 5 speed everything factory +4susplift running bfg 31s and a aux gas tank and more aux lights than needed 86 pickup 1986 stock pickup 22r 31.10 BFG ATs flatbed a sad day for the 4runner "One moment of patience may ward off great disaster. One moment of impatience may ruin a whole life."

02-25-2007, 05:38 PM	#40 (permalink)
misterzee Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Georgia-Cumming Posts: 636	Good Luck with that rebuild!! You're brave! :-) __________________ 85, 87 (SAS), 88 (on loan), 96 4Runners, all males... 03 Town and Country... female CLIK4PIX Last edited by misterzee; 02-25-2007 at 05:41 PM.

02-25-2007, 05:40 PM	#41 (permalink)
littlerunner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: kentucky Posts: 412	longer bolts may be a better alternative.thought about that when i was redoing the valve adj because i put the wrong cam & caps on one head.what a dumba$$ __________________ 91 4runner,5spd,bone stock,rblt 3.0 @ 303,000 miles.OME 900 rear springs,front & rear shocks.97 runner wifeys

02-25-2007, 06:25 PM	#42 (permalink)
littlerunner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: kentucky Posts: 412	don't know about brave-too tight to buy a reman.don't have to have the truck right away so have plenty of time __________________ 91 4runner,5spd,bone stock,rblt 3.0 @ 303,000 miles.OME 900 rear springs,front & rear shocks.97 runner wifeys

02-26-2007, 08:46 AM	#43 (permalink)
964runnerKY Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Paducah KY Posts: 356	Looks like your coming along. The weather has been terrible to work in even in a garage lately. I can't wait until it stays in the 60's. I have to fix one of my mustangs and have been putting off because it is too cold and our shop doesn't have the gas hooked up right now. I have to replace a oil pan that started leaking due to a small crack that some how appeared. __________________ 1996 Toyota 4runner 4x4 FOR SALE W/O Satoshi Grille Mod, 99 rear coils, Landcruiser rims FOR SALE, 320,000 original miles 2005 Ford Freestyle 1994 Mustang Gt Convertible 2001 Nissan Maxima 2007 Chrysler Sebring 2005 QX56 Infiniti 4x4 loaded!! Low miles http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...1/DSC00171.jpg

02-27-2007, 05:52 PM	#45 (permalink)
littlerunner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: kentucky Posts: 412	well i did turn wrenches for 10 yrs at a nissan dealer for 10 yrs.got the oppurtinity to take over as service manager 6 yrs ago.have been service manager at a toyota dealer for the past 5 yrs.not afraid of the wrench but after you haven't done stuff like that for a while its kinda physically demanding.i also feel fortunate to have my techs around for advice if needed & can buy oem parts at 10% over cost.hopefully in a couple weeks the littlerunner will be back up & we'll see if i've still got what it takes.ome shocks & coils & 32s come after that.also set up account with ARB at dealer so that wrks pretty well also. __________________ 91 4runner,5spd,bone stock,rblt 3.0 @ 303,000 miles.OME 900 rear springs,front & rear shocks.97 runner wifeys

03-04-2007, 03:42 PM	#46 (permalink)
littlerunner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: kentucky Posts: 412	crank is in block,turns free,rings on pistons,picked up engine stand today for 25 bucks.have to get some longer bolts to attach engine.hope to be smellin smoke by the end of march __________________ 91 4runner,5spd,bone stock,rblt 3.0 @ 303,000 miles.OME 900 rear springs,front & rear shocks.97 runner wifeys

03-26-2007, 07:41 PM	#47 (permalink)
littlerunner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: kentucky Posts: 412	short block is back in truck.ac compressor & starter mounted.looking forward to gettin done.even though i don't have to have it i miss driving it __________________ 91 4runner,5spd,bone stock,rblt 3.0 @ 303,000 miles.OME 900 rear springs,front & rear shocks.97 runner wifeys

04-01-2007, 09:49 AM	#48 (permalink)
littlerunner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: kentucky Posts: 412	finally startin to look like something again even got a little somethin special for her __________________ 91 4runner,5spd,bone stock,rblt 3.0 @ 303,000 miles.OME 900 rear springs,front & rear shocks.97 runner wifeys

04-01-2007, 02:21 PM	#50 (permalink)
littlerunner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: kentucky Posts: 412	thanx,hope to have it running by next weekend.get the shocks on & maybe in a couple months get the rear springs. __________________ 91 4runner,5spd,bone stock,rblt 3.0 @ 303,000 miles.OME 900 rear springs,front & rear shocks.97 runner wifeys

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