Jay351

Yeah, so just trying to tie up all the loose ends on my truck (long friggen list!). One of those loose ends is my ability to start the truck without putting the clutch in (not using the clutch start cancel button). This function is required to be working to pass a vehicle inspection, and I would like to get my truck 100% compliant...

I found the button on the clutch pedal, and it has a little pigtail that was unplugged and tucked out of the way... Now the PO of my truck was a total HACK, so im not sure if he snipped the wires out or something...



So, can anyone trace the plug that this plugs into, and tell me where it goes?
I took my whole dash apart trying to track this sucker down to no avail.


Next wire bundle to worry about...



I found this guy sitting on top of the lower vent.. Im not sure if this is factory, if so I dunno what the heck it does...

I traced it up to the main wiring harness (im guessing) right behind the cluster.



If you look close im pointing a screwdriver to where it goes into the harness..

Thanks in advance for any help you guys (and girls) can offer...

I swear, every damn time I have to do wiring on my truck It makes me want to throttle the po!

fillsrunner4

first one is a clutch start cancel switch

Jay351

Yeah, I know its the clutch start switch, its mounted to the clutch pedal.. But it doesnt work. Because its not plugged into anything.

My clutch start cancel switch on the dash however works... It lights up like its supposed to.. so yeah...

fillsrunner4

Weird!

littlecommando

that larger plug looks alot like the stereo harness

so, my 4runner shouldn't start without the clutch in?

space-junk

iTrader: (1)

depends on if it came with it or not... my brother in laws old 85 didnt come with one... and he bought it from a 65 year old guy who only had 81K on it...

Jay351

Yeah, on all the manual trasmission vehicles I have driven (including other toyotas) you cannot start it without having the clutch pedal depressed.

If you look at the clutch pedal bracket you will see a button it depresses when fully depressed, this is the clutch start switch that said pigtail comes out of.


I know for sure that the PO had a alarm system of some kind in this truck, not sure if its related.. He hacked up ALOT of other crap

Everything in my truck works perfect, so thats why im so stumped at the unplugged wires. Thats alot of wires in the big plug....

Jay351

Just a though, could the big plug possibly be for cruise control? My truck doesnt have that option..

scuba

Could be, cause i know they wire them for the options, but if you dont get em, the accesory just isnt there.

space-junk

iTrader: (1)

the clutch wire might have been removed for a remote start application...

Matt16

When did YOU get a VI? And for what?

Jay351

Thats a good theory! But Wouldnt I be able to find the clip/harness that it plugs into? I swear, I went though the dash pretty thourouly (yeah yeah spelling).. I couldnt find a damn thing, except that big fat clip...

Can anyone go and find out where the wiring for the clutch button (on the clutch bracket) goes to?

Haha, well I havnt gotten one YET. But I figure, with my loud exaust, lack of mudflaps, lack of flares and cracked windsheild... Its gonna happen.
So I figured I would slowley fix everything and then when/if the time comes, its no sweat.

So far I could pass a VI with the exception of:

Window is cracked
clutch start button not working
Rear mudflaps (im workin on that one , big rig flaps.. here I come)
Flares
And my ripped seat

shaw_j

Interesting side note, my 81 doesn't need to be depressed.
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But the second harness actually looks like the one that would plug into the clock in the dash... if your truck has one, if it does not, like mine, then just leave it.

Jay351

Wierd.. I wonder if they made it manditory in the mid/late 80's...

I have a clock, and it works great It uses a smaller plug

This is crazy, its just wierd because everything works perfect (except the clutch button..) ....

Matt16

Our 1997 VW diesel transporter van would start without the clutch in. That was a cool van. Made for great dates in high school.

Jay351

.... hehehe

Cyberman

On the clutch start switch, you should have a black wire with a red stripe, and a white wire with a blue stripe. The WHT/BLU goes to ground, And the BLK/RED gets hooked up to the BLK/RED on the clutch start cancel switch.

If your wire colors are different, the clutch start cancel switch should have two wires with the same color as the clutch start switch.

Jay351

Okay so If I understand correctly. Two wires comming from the clutch pedal switch will be the same colour as two of the wires comming out of the clutch start cancel switch. The wiring from the clutch start cancell switch goes into a loom with the dimmer switch and drivers side speaker wiring. Would I just splice the two same coloured wires on the clutch pedal switch to the clutch start cancel switch wires?

Then the remaining two are just routed to a ground?

Cyberman

The clutch start switch should only have 2 wires. They are spliced into the corresponding wires on the clutch cancel switch. The corresponding wires on the clutch cancel switch should already be going to ground, and the starter relay.

slayyerr

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