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Old 12-25-2008, 11:48 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Im surprised none of you have mentioned the 22re's lack of efficiency. Its not a really efficient motor at all, like the other people said it was built for torque.

I dont like knocking on other people, but seriously you are going to argue that a 4cyl can make as much power as a V8 with the same mods. Get real people. Its common knowledge that it costs more money to get 400hp out of a 4cyl than a V8.

And dont get me started on hondas, subies, mitsus, etc. Yeah they can make good power, but you are also talking about DOHC motors with hemispherical combustion chambers, the 22re is a SOHC with a horrible head design, its really restictive and not very efficient as I said earlier. The most I have ever heard powerwise out of a 22re motor was 250hp, after that you are looking at custom everything, when someone gets 300hp out of a 22re it will be a miracle, and they will have a huge wallet.

Now back to LCE, they are the best out there, and the amount of time they worked on it probably amounts to that much money. They are a very good quality company! They may not make that much power but I bet if you spend 6k on doing everything yourself, you will be disappointed cause these engines just dont make that much power.
Now thats an intelligent rebuttal I can live with.
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Old 01-09-2009, 12:29 PM   #52 (permalink)
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lol, ok so you turbo your 4banger. then i put a blower on my big block

the point is you can do all the mods you want to a 4cyl, and an equally built v8 is gonna have more power. you don't see a 4banger racing in top fuel do you?
here is your answer, and most people would think is close enough. http://www.vwparadise.com/content.wws?fname=racing.html

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Old 01-09-2009, 03:12 PM   #53 (permalink)
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here is your answer, and most people would think is close enough. http://www.vwparadise.com/content.wws?fname=racing.html
that thing is rude lol. but its not top fuel is it?
even if it was, it would still get blown away by a top fuel v8.

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I just bought a Toyota and I don't have any tools or any kind of area to work on it with and I'm wanting to drop in a V8 and clear 38's but I don't have any money and do I need to lift this if so what kind of lift and what do you recommend also I'm not sure if all terrains will work in mud is there another kind I have some rims that should work but they came off a yugo so is the bolt pattern the same...

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LC is very pricey. We can build a motor for 3k and they will charge 6k or more for it. So if your willing to do your homework you could get a nice FI set up for around 3k.

Also 190+ hp out of a 4 banger is pretty damn good. Thats near double the hp.
my si makes 197hp, plenty of n/a stock 4's that make 190hp these days, 20 years ago is a different story.

edit-this was not to take anything away from lc or the 22re, just saying, todays 4 cylinders have come a long way in terms of hp...not so much on the torque front lol
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