... I THINK I shorted all grounds in my 94' 22RE
#21
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The switch was illuminated, so yea... it had that 'second' line.
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However, it's worth noting that it wasn't an INSTANT drop, it was after I tried to crank the key 2-3 times, for 2-3 seconds each.
If you get similar drain without anything running start following all of your large battery cables and see if one of them is rubbed through. Check your winch circuit too. Those are big cables. If you are shorting one of these big cables to the body or frame you will have your battery drain issue and can even be backfeeding your grounds with voltage which will cause major resistance and resistance = heat.
...this is a good call. However, I'm of the mind that my battery is O.K. since it checked at over 12.6 after resting all night... I'll do this next.
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I'm so glad you posted this! I know it's somewhere... I just don't know where to find it, YET. Damn you Parasitic Draw!
However, it's worth noting that it wasn't an INSTANT drop, it was after I tried to crank the key 2-3 times, for 2-3 seconds each.
...BACK-FEEDING GROUNDS WITH VOLTAGE!I ...This has been my longest standing belief about the issue I currently face. I fear that my parasitic draw is from a "cooked" or "deinsulated" wire somewhere up in the cab, which likely happened after the massive jolt the system took in Late May/Early April from the H.I.D. mis-wiring.
...this is a good call. However, I'm of the mind that my battery is O.K. since it checked at over 12.6 after resting all night... I'll do this next.
However, it's worth noting that it wasn't an INSTANT drop, it was after I tried to crank the key 2-3 times, for 2-3 seconds each.
...BACK-FEEDING GROUNDS WITH VOLTAGE!I ...This has been my longest standing belief about the issue I currently face. I fear that my parasitic draw is from a "cooked" or "deinsulated" wire somewhere up in the cab, which likely happened after the massive jolt the system took in Late May/Early April from the H.I.D. mis-wiring.
...this is a good call. However, I'm of the mind that my battery is O.K. since it checked at over 12.6 after resting all night... I'll do this next.
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Ironically, I had this feeling when I watched my In-Cab SR5 cluster voltmeter TANK when I put the key to the starter. Drop from 15-14V to 10-9V immediately.
I really appreciate it!
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...Hmm, this problem seems to have returned.
I haven't driven the truck in 2 days, and now it's 100% dead. Like, no lights or anything 'dead.'
The battery tests at 1.00 volts with a DMM. TOTALLY flat, from an operating 12.6v+ as reg'd on the Voltmeter in an SR5 cluster 2 days prior.
I KNOW there's gotta be a HUGE draw somewhere, I just need to find it.
Fortunately, the battery is new (+2-3mo) and I've got the 1yr warranty to get 'er re-charged... then time to start diagnosing.
Ho-hum. Dead truck yet again.
I haven't driven the truck in 2 days, and now it's 100% dead. Like, no lights or anything 'dead.'
The battery tests at 1.00 volts with a DMM. TOTALLY flat, from an operating 12.6v+ as reg'd on the Voltmeter in an SR5 cluster 2 days prior.
I KNOW there's gotta be a HUGE draw somewhere, I just need to find it.
Fortunately, the battery is new (+2-3mo) and I've got the 1yr warranty to get 'er re-charged... then time to start diagnosing.
Ho-hum. Dead truck yet again.
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After you recharge the battery !!
Perhaps disconnect the negative terminal of the battery to you find and repair your drain
I think you might want to look at relays with contacts melted closed .
Most of the coils are operated on switched power.
Have you had a Cook out for the local fire department yet ??
Kinda get to know them event
Perhaps disconnect the negative terminal of the battery to you find and repair your drain
I think you might want to look at relays with contacts melted closed .
Most of the coils are operated on switched power.
Have you had a Cook out for the local fire department yet ??
Kinda get to know them event
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QUICK and SIMPLE CHECK THAT I don't Think You've Done Yet.
QUICK, SIMPLE AND IMPORTANT CHECK that I don't Think you've done yet.
With all circuits off, disconnect "B" Wire from the alt output screw terminal (shown below).
Measure resistance between that screw terminal and ground. It should be in multiples of mega-ohms. Let us know what you get.
With all circuits off, disconnect "B" Wire from the alt output screw terminal (shown below).
Measure resistance between that screw terminal and ground. It should be in multiples of mega-ohms. Let us know what you get.
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QUICK, SIMPLE AND IMPORTANT CHECK that I don't Think you've done yet.
With all circuits off, disconnect "B" Wire from the alt output screw terminal (shown below).
Measure resistance between that screw terminal and ground. It should be in multiples of mega-ohms. Let us know what you get.
With all circuits off, disconnect "B" Wire from the alt output screw terminal (shown below).
Measure resistance between that screw terminal and ground. It should be in multiples of mega-ohms. Let us know what you get.
I'll get right on this when I get home.
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Can't wait to see results. BTW, I haven't had time to read the whole thread so... Have you measured total resistance between battery connector (disconnected from battery) and ground? If you haven't yet, pls do.
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After you recharge the battery !!
Perhaps disconnect the negative terminal of the battery to you find and repair your drain
I think you might want to look at relays with contacts melted closed .
Most of the coils are operated on switched power.
Have you had a Cook out for the local fire department yet ??
Kinda get to know them event
Perhaps disconnect the negative terminal of the battery to you find and repair your drain
I think you might want to look at relays with contacts melted closed .
Most of the coils are operated on switched power.
Have you had a Cook out for the local fire department yet ??
Kinda get to know them event
haha.
I'm trying to decipher the snark from the serious!
I'm definitely trying to repair the drain... I don't really know were to start other than using the DMM to bridge the gap of (-) and ground, and then pulling fuses 1-by-1 to see if there's a jump.
So far, my engine fuse-box has checked out. I'll double check it though. It MAY be an under-dash fuse, but last I checked, they were good.
I read a IH8 thread that described the ignition switch itself (in the column, where the key goes) being faulty. I think this may be a good call, since when I wired the stupid H.I.D., I grounded the direct battery voltage there, and the resistance was what burnt out that ground wire... which was attached to the column brace just next to the keyed ignition.
Any thoughts?
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Again, thanks man. Seems you're the resident electro-wizard here.
#33
LOL!
Good approach.
Not sure if we have same wiring, because I have an 86... but pls check for 12V at noted points. There should be none after the ignition switch (in oval) with switch is OFF.
I'm definitely trying to repair the drain... I don't really know were to start other than using the DMM to bridge the gap of (-) and ground, and then pulling fuses 1-by-1 to see if there's a jump.
I read a IH8 thread that described the ignition switch itself (in the column, where the key goes) being faulty. I think this may be a good call, since when I wired the stupid H.I.D., I grounded the direct battery voltage there, and the resistance was what burnt out that ground wire... which was attached to the column brace just next to the keyed ignition.
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Killer, a diagram!
So, just to be sure;
(After installing the newly recharged battery)
1) I'm to find these wires (color coded as per the diagram) and then put the (+) of my DMM on these, with it on 12V setting?
2) I'm to put the (-) DMM ground to an unpainted, uninsulated chassis bolt (e.g. seat bolt)?
3) ANY spike at all, with the ignition switch OFF (even key out) should be a suspected circuit.
#35
So, just to be sure;
(After installing the newly recharged battery)
1) I'm to find these wires (color coded as per the diagram) and then put the (+) of my DMM on these, with it on 12V setting?
2) I'm to put the (-) DMM ground to an unpainted, uninsulated chassis bolt (e.g. seat bolt)?
3) ANY spike at all, with the ignition switch OFF (even key out) should be a suspected circuit.
(After installing the newly recharged battery)
1) I'm to find these wires (color coded as per the diagram) and then put the (+) of my DMM on these, with it on 12V setting?
2) I'm to put the (-) DMM ground to an unpainted, uninsulated chassis bolt (e.g. seat bolt)?
3) ANY spike at all, with the ignition switch OFF (even key out) should be a suspected circuit.
There are still wire runs ("A", "B", and "C" in diagram) that will have 12V even with ignition off.
Anyway, we'll sort this out somehow. Just do it methodically and record your results.
You have a 94, though so wiring and colors may not be same.
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I still am willing to bet on a relay with fused contacts
Allowing a circuit to be energized when it should not be.
Prior to the light adventure was any other electrical work attempted that may have been forgotten about ??
A short to ground would keep drawing till the wire opened or if a protected circuit until the protection opened
What other electrical circuits don`t work ??
In all honesty I really wish I was close enough to look at this up close and in person
Allowing a circuit to be energized when it should not be.
Prior to the light adventure was any other electrical work attempted that may have been forgotten about ??
A short to ground would keep drawing till the wire opened or if a protected circuit until the protection opened
What other electrical circuits don`t work ??
In all honesty I really wish I was close enough to look at this up close and in person
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