I think i'm ready to kill

Belize Off Road Team · 03-01-2008, 09:23 AM

So on Thursday i dropped my truck off at the body shop and was told it would be ready monday. Well i figured that he should have started working on it by now otherwise it won't be done by then. So i drive by this morning and what do i see

I see it moved around across the road WITH MUD ON IT. when i dropped it off it was clean. AND I GAVE HIM NO PERMISSION TO DRIVE IT AROUND TOWN ONLY INTO HIS SHOP AND THAT'S IT!!!!!!!!!!!! I SWEAR I'LL KILL HIM unless he does things CHEAP or FREE

What should i do? Kill him or take it to the more expensive place?

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JasonWin · 03-01-2008, 09:25 AM

Tell him you want a discounted price.

Belize Off Road Team · 03-01-2008, 09:29 AM

I think i want more than a discount, because by driving it he has put un nessesary wear on my Clutch BECAUSE NO ONE IN BELIZE KNOWS HOW TO DRIVE A STANDARD. thats why used manual cars down here have BLEEPED up manual transmissons.

87toy. · 03-01-2008, 09:31 AM

Id confront that a$$ and be prepard to club a fool and get your cash back and go someplace else.

Godzilla · 03-01-2008, 09:32 AM

I would remove it from the shop. I you cant trust someone with it, I wouldn't trust them to fix it. I would also contact my PD to inquire if they could be hit with joy riding or something in that nature..Im sure nothing would come of it, but it could knock some sense into them.

SEAIRESCUE · 03-01-2008, 09:36 AM

Call the cops and have them come to the shop to file a report that the truck has been damaged. The cop will question you and the dik you left the truck with at the shop. I doubt the dik will lie to the cops. Then get the cops advise on what to do next. For me, I would be filling out papers to get me a date in small claims court. Tell you side of the story to Judge Judy and the dik can tell his. Be sure to request compensation for your time and mileage. With the cops report presented and each of you telling your side, you should win. I would also immediately drive it to see if there are any hidden problems. Also, a Supremeo car cleaning quote from a mobile detail shop should satisfy the Judge.

My $0.02

Belize Off Road Team · 03-01-2008, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla

I would remove it from the shop. I you cant trust someone with it, I wouldn't trust them to fix it. I would also contact my PD to inquire if they could be hit with joy riding or something in that nature..Im sure nothing would come of it, but it could knock some sense into them.

I really like that idea, and i think i might do that.

Matt16 · 03-01-2008, 09:40 AM

Tell them you noticed X number new kilometres on it and say you saw mud on it before they clean it.

Belize Off Road Team · 03-01-2008, 09:50 AM

well it is un-disputable from his stand point because i have a picture of it right before i left it at his shop. so it shows how clean, it shows how many km's there where when i left.

hurley842002 · 03-01-2008, 09:59 AM

That sucks, I would be pissed. Guess we know who to go to if the shop owner comes up missing.

Belize Off Road Team · 03-01-2008, 10:02 AM

i am VERY pissed.

and you would look at me for him going missing, bu you may not FIND me

infiltrator · 03-01-2008, 10:10 AM

I honestly think you have a case. Take pictures of it dirty, and take that ass to court. Hell, maybe you can get like $1,000.

But I would confront him first. Find out his side. Then go from there and see whats up. Maybe it was one of the workers when he was "on break". I have seen stuff like that before.

I heard of one case around here where a worker from a very well known shop took this guys acura to lunch and everything when it was taken in for service.

That's why the shop that I go to, you can help the guys if you want. You can poke your head in there and ask questions. The guys are really nice and helpful. Haha, they said they would change my oil for 10 bucks if I have the oil and the filter!

Justinvd · 03-01-2008, 11:46 AM

Yeah every vehicle we fix at work gets a road test around the block before we bring it in. One of the lube tecs at work took a jacked up customer f150 through a swampy feild near the shop and got it stuck haha. He was fired that same day and it was reported to the police by the customer luckily he took all the heat. He got some sort of fine though. You should really look into it. Good luck

nix4x4 · 03-01-2008, 11:58 AM

Man thats insane.

I have my Tundra in the body shop and I swear I've been in there
at least a dozen times checking up onit. Lucky for me, though,
It isn't really in a drivable condition so they can't be messing around
with it too much. Hope that whatever you end up doing works out for you.
Keep us updated on your progress.

Spence1016 · 03-01-2008, 12:21 PM

make sure you get some pictures of it while it is dirty, parked in their lot. I would definitely go and talk to the guy about it and if he isnt willing do the work for free or drastically reduced then i would not allow for him to work on it at all and call the cops

Belize Off Road Team · 03-01-2008, 01:23 PM

Well i went to see the guy, and he said it was only to move it, but he is on a paved road where there is no mud, so lie 1. I asked why it was moved 3 times if he has not started anything, he had no answer. i told him if i catch him joy riding in my truck, he will have a visit from the fuzz, and a fine so bg he will have to shut down his shop. He took $100bz off the price so now instead of $350bz it's now $250bz.

and he is so cock-sure that he said he is starting it tomorrow and will be done on monday morning, so he is going to cut out the rust, bend new metal to the shape of the body, take the inside panels out so they don't burn it, weld on the new panels, fill the gap where he welds, smooth it all out, sand down the rest of the bottom half of the truck, paint on rubber undersealant, spray on black, spray on clear coat and let it dry long enough so i can pick it up and drive away on Monday.

I just want my truck rust free and in my drive way again. i hate having it in town with an ass like this guy. But it needs to be done and he is the best in town.

stormin94 · 03-02-2008, 12:04 AM

Well, I'm not going to suggest that you kill him....for legal reasons.......but if you feel you must, I didn't see nothing.....

dirtoyboy · 03-02-2008, 06:23 AM

please post up some pics of said work when he's done......Im just curious what it looks like

btw, this is chit chat...not tech

**waskillywabbit** · 03-02-2008, 07:00 AM

Why continue to trust someone with your truck who has already proven themselves untrustworty? To save a few bucks? What if he does shoddy work? What if he half way welds stuff up and just covers it with seam sealer and underoating so it will crack 3 months down the road?

People that do good work have character and integrity. My bet is this guy does this all the time. Lies, cheats, screws up and then knocks $$$ of the bill to cover his cheeks.

Good luck, you are going to need it.

**DeathCougar** · 03-02-2008, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

Why continue to trust someone with your truck who has already proven themselves untrustworty? To save a few bucks? What if he does shoddy work? What if he half way welds stuff up and just covers it with seam sealer and underoating so it will crack 3 months down the road?

People that do good work have character and integrity. My bet is this guy does this all the time. Lies, cheats, screws up and then knocks $$$ of the bill to cover his cheeks.

Good luck, you are going to need it.

My thoughts exactly. Especially since you have confronted him. If he doesn't have the moral character to not lie to you, imagine how butt hurt he is going to be by being confronted. Then he can do anything he wants to your truck!

I do not know how much $250bz is in American dollars, but $250 here will get you some bondo and spray paint at a local body shop.

Caveat emptor!

Hayes · 03-02-2008, 09:43 AM

I had a mustang that I took to walmart(yeah I know) for an oil change, and when the kid pulled it out he did a burnout/drift with my car leaving the bays. I was standing there and watched the whole thing. After talking with the manager of their lube section, I asked to talk to the store manager. The kid and the lube manager were fired on the spot. I wasn't taking no for an answer, I also got 10 free oil changes...which I never used. Complain, and if the person you complain to doesn't get you desired results...go higher.

**waskillywabbit** · 03-02-2008, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayes

I had a mustang that I took to walmart(yeah I know) for an oil change, and when the kid pulled it out he did a burnout/drift with my car leaving the bays. I was standing there and watched the whole thing. After talking with the manager of their lube section, I asked to talk to the store manager. The kid and the lube manager were fired on the spot. I wasn't taking no for an answer, I also got 10 free oil changes...which I never used. Complain, and if the person you complain to doesn't get you desired results...go higher.

GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!

Someone would have been walking funny when they left.

Tolerance of incompetence only promotes it and Darwin can only do so much.

ozziesironmanoffroad · 03-02-2008, 10:55 AM

hey brian, what would YOU do if you were feelin lazy and went somewhere for an oil change and they started drifting your vehicle? lmao. i know someone would be walkin away broken

Hayes · 03-02-2008, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!

Someone would have been walking funny when they left.

Tolerance of incompetence only promotes it and Darwin can only do so much.

I do what I can to help the world out.

stormin94 · 03-03-2008, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayes

I do what I can to help the world out.

You could help me out by donating some of your unused free oil changes......

03-01-2008, 09:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
Belize Off Road Team Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Corozal Town, Belize Posts: 2,752	I think i want more than a discount, because by driving it he has put un nessesary wear on my Clutch BECAUSE NO ONE IN BELIZE KNOWS HOW TO DRIVE A STANDARD. thats why used manual cars down here have BLEEPED up manual transmissons. __________________ -Phyl 1991 Hilux Surf SSR-G Petrol 3.0L V6 200,000kms l Rancho RS5000 l 31"x10.50"xR15 Pro Comp Xterrain l K&N Air Filter l PP 1" Lift Coil Springs l Optima Blue Top l 12" JBL Subs l Alpine Type R l 80/100W Hella H4 l 1st Gen Roll Bar Mod l FT/RR Diff. Breathers l Smittybilt XRC8 Winch l ARB Bull Bar l トヨタ\|NEVER QUIT

03-01-2008, 09:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
87toy. Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Princeton texas Posts: 357	Id confront that a$$ and be prepard to club a fool and get your cash back and go someplace else. __________________ black 05 tundra v6 6 speed

03-01-2008, 09:36 AM	#6 (permalink)
SEAIRESCUE Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 491	Call the cops and have them come to the shop to file a report that the truck has been damaged. The cop will question you and the dik you left the truck with at the shop. I doubt the dik will lie to the cops. Then get the cops advise on what to do next. For me, I would be filling out papers to get me a date in small claims court. Tell you side of the story to Judge Judy and the dik can tell his. Be sure to request compensation for your time and mileage. With the cops report presented and each of you telling your side, you should win. I would also immediately drive it to see if there are any hidden problems. Also, a Supremeo car cleaning quote from a mobile detail shop should satisfy the Judge. My $0.02 Last edited by SEAIRESCUE; 03-01-2008 at 09:39 AM.

03-01-2008, 09:50 AM	#9 (permalink)
Belize Off Road Team Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Corozal Town, Belize Posts: 2,752	well it is un-disputable from his stand point because i have a picture of it right before i left it at his shop. so it shows how clean, it shows how many km's there where when i left. __________________ -Phyl 1991 Hilux Surf SSR-G Petrol 3.0L V6 200,000kms l Rancho RS5000 l 31"x10.50"xR15 Pro Comp Xterrain l K&N Air Filter l PP 1" Lift Coil Springs l Optima Blue Top l 12" JBL Subs l Alpine Type R l 80/100W Hella H4 l 1st Gen Roll Bar Mod l FT/RR Diff. Breathers l Smittybilt XRC8 Winch l ARB Bull Bar l トヨタ\|NEVER QUIT

03-01-2008, 10:02 AM	#11 (permalink)
Belize Off Road Team Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Corozal Town, Belize Posts: 2,752	i am VERY pissed. and you would look at me for him going missing, bu you may not FIND me __________________ -Phyl 1991 Hilux Surf SSR-G Petrol 3.0L V6 200,000kms l Rancho RS5000 l 31"x10.50"xR15 Pro Comp Xterrain l K&N Air Filter l PP 1" Lift Coil Springs l Optima Blue Top l 12" JBL Subs l Alpine Type R l 80/100W Hella H4 l 1st Gen Roll Bar Mod l FT/RR Diff. Breathers l Smittybilt XRC8 Winch l ARB Bull Bar l トヨタ\|NEVER QUIT

03-01-2008, 09:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
Godzilla Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 2,147	I would remove it from the shop. I you cant trust someone with it, I wouldn't trust them to fix it. I would also contact my PD to inquire if they could be hit with joy riding or something in that nature..Im sure nothing would come of it, but it could knock some sense into them.

03-01-2008, 09:59 AM	#10 (permalink)
hurley842002 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 327	That sucks, I would be pissed. Guess we know who to go to if the shop owner comes up missing.

03-01-2008, 10:10 AM	#12 (permalink)
infiltrator Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Valencia, California Posts: 1,300	I honestly think you have a case. Take pictures of it dirty, and take that ass to court. Hell, maybe you can get like $1,000. But I would confront him first. Find out his side. Then go from there and see whats up. Maybe it was one of the workers when he was "on break". I have seen stuff like that before. I heard of one case around here where a worker from a very well known shop took this guys acura to lunch and everything when it was taken in for service. That's why the shop that I go to, you can help the guys if you want. You can poke your head in there and ask questions. The guys are really nice and helpful. Haha, they said they would change my oil for 10 bucks if I have the oil and the filter! __________________ Old Rig: '95 4runner \| White \| ISR \| 193,000mi. \| Totalled.

03-01-2008, 11:46 AM	#13 (permalink)
Justinvd Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: B.C Posts: 736	Yeah every vehicle we fix at work gets a road test around the block before we bring it in. One of the lube tecs at work took a jacked up customer f150 through a swampy feild near the shop and got it stuck haha. He was fired that same day and it was reported to the police by the customer luckily he took all the heat. He got some sort of fine though. You should really look into it. Good luck Last edited by Justinvd; 03-01-2008 at 12:09 PM.

03-01-2008, 11:58 AM	#14 (permalink)
nix4x4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: I'm an Ohio boy! Posts: 1,212	Man thats insane. I have my Tundra in the body shop and I swear I've been in there at least a dozen times checking up onit. Lucky for me, though, It isn't really in a drivable condition so they can't be messing around with it too much. Hope that whatever you end up doing works out for you. Keep us updated on your progress. __________________ 1992 Xtra Cab 3.0/5-speed Work in progress..

03-01-2008, 12:21 PM	#15 (permalink)
Spence1016 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ft.Lauderdale, FL Posts: 348	make sure you get some pictures of it while it is dirty, parked in their lot. I would definitely go and talk to the guy about it and if he isnt willing do the work for free or drastically reduced then i would not allow for him to work on it at all and call the cops __________________ 2000 4Runner Limited V6 Auto... 2wd =[[[ Sony GT510 head unit, Kenwood 1700 watt max mono amp, Two 12 inch Polk Subs in ported box, 3 farad capacitor, neons in front footwells Foglights on bottom of rear bumper Optima Yellowtop, Kc daylighters on front bumper Vortex muffler and Trueflow airfilter

03-01-2008, 01:23 PM	#16 (permalink)
Belize Off Road Team Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Corozal Town, Belize Posts: 2,752	Well i went to see the guy, and he said it was only to move it, but he is on a paved road where there is no mud, so lie 1. I asked why it was moved 3 times if he has not started anything, he had no answer. i told him if i catch him joy riding in my truck, he will have a visit from the fuzz, and a fine so bg he will have to shut down his shop. He took $100bz off the price so now instead of $350bz it's now $250bz. and he is so cock-sure that he said he is starting it tomorrow and will be done on monday morning, so he is going to cut out the rust, bend new metal to the shape of the body, take the inside panels out so they don't burn it, weld on the new panels, fill the gap where he welds, smooth it all out, sand down the rest of the bottom half of the truck, paint on rubber undersealant, spray on black, spray on clear coat and let it dry long enough so i can pick it up and drive away on Monday. I just want my truck rust free and in my drive way again. i hate having it in town with an ass like this guy. But it needs to be done and he is the best in town. __________________ -Phyl 1991 Hilux Surf SSR-G Petrol 3.0L V6 200,000kms l Rancho RS5000 l 31"x10.50"xR15 Pro Comp Xterrain l K&N Air Filter l PP 1" Lift Coil Springs l Optima Blue Top l 12" JBL Subs l Alpine Type R l 80/100W Hella H4 l 1st Gen Roll Bar Mod l FT/RR Diff. Breathers l Smittybilt XRC8 Winch l ARB Bull Bar l トヨタ\|NEVER QUIT

03-02-2008, 12:04 AM	#17 (permalink)
stormin94 Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lake County, CA/Sacramento Posts: 3,504	Well, I'm not going to suggest that you kill him....for legal reasons.......but if you feel you must, I didn't see nothing..... __________________ 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4X4 213,000 miles and counting 3.0 V6, 5 speed 10/15 MPG city/hwy(with 33's) Current Mods Headers, 2.5" Flowmaster custom exhaust, K&N FIPK KC Daylighter 100 Watt lights Ranchos x4, 2" Lift Downey coils 33-12.50 M/T's, 1" t-bar lift, 1" body lift Tow pkg w/ lighthookups Silverstar Headlights, Pioneer Deck w/XM Brushguard 250Watt JLAudio 8" W3 Sub Future Mods 12V Aux outlet-400/800peak inverter roof basket/lights Air locker 4.88 gears H.O. Alternator

03-02-2008, 07:00 AM	#19 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,471	Why continue to trust someone with your truck who has already proven themselves untrustworty? To save a few bucks? What if he does shoddy work? What if he half way welds stuff up and just covers it with seam sealer and underoating so it will crack 3 months down the road? People that do good work have character and integrity. My bet is this guy does this all the time. Lies, cheats, screws up and then knocks $$$ of the bill to cover his cheeks. Good luck, you are going to need it. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it.

03-02-2008, 09:43 AM	#21 (permalink)
Hayes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 1,884	I had a mustang that I took to walmart(yeah I know) for an oil change, and when the kid pulled it out he did a burnout/drift with my car leaving the bays. I was standing there and watched the whole thing. After talking with the manager of their lube section, I asked to talk to the store manager. The kid and the lube manager were fired on the spot. I wasn't taking no for an answer, I also got 10 free oil changes...which I never used. Complain, and if the person you complain to doesn't get you desired results...go higher. __________________ Obama is an acronym. OBAMA = One Big Ass Mistake, America

03-02-2008, 10:55 AM	#23 (permalink)
ozziesironmanoffroad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 5,643	hey brian, what would YOU do if you were feelin lazy and went somewhere for an oil change and they started drifting your vehicle? lmao. i know someone would be walkin away broken __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22re, 1200 miles on the rebuild engine builder .268 cam pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

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