machine23

im tearing into my engine for the hg. i need to remove the ps pump. but i cant remove the pulley nut. i dont have any impact wrench or other air tool for use. im stuck at the pump and need to get this engine fixed. the belt isnt keeping the pulley still, which doesnt help me with loosening the nut. what else can i do to keep the pulley from moving

Jay351

Why do you ned to remove the pulley?

Just unbolt the pump and remove it... Its much easier.

Ardent

x2 Don't pull the pulley. Just take the belt off then unbolt the whole assembly. Much easier.

machine23

i tried using a wrench on the ps pump mounting bolt on the block but for some reason the wrench kept slipping and stripping the nut. and yes im using the proper metric size wrench

Lummpus

If its slipping your not using the right wrench. also don't use the open end of the wrench thats why its stripping you should use a ratchet with the proper socket. But most important. DON'T REMOVE THE PULLEY!!!!! once you have the nut off the pully theres a good chance it still won't come off without a puller and theres no room for one there. just remove the whole assembly like Jay and Ardent said.

a4runnerfreak

And use a 6pt socket, not a 12pt. Better gripping. It puts more on all the sides of the bolt head.

machine23

ok so i got the mounting bolt loose. but i still cant get the pump off because the pulley is blocking the bolt from sliding out to i can remove the pump. sigh...i just want to be driving my runner again...

waskillywabbit

iTrader: (-1)

PS pulley just slides on there, woodruff key. Try pulling it off by hand with equal pressure or a few slight taps from a hammer.

Also please title your threads in the future relevant to your topic instead of a generic "help". Thanks.

waskillywabbit

iTrader: (-1)

At least that is how it is on a 22RE. Never worked on a 3.0.

Ardent

He can't even get the nut off that retains the pulley.

waskillywabbit

iTrader: (-1)

Try a rachet and a quick hit from a hammer while holding the belt tight.

Find someone to help you.

Borrow an impact as it will take it off quick.

Try some penetrating oil like PB Blaster.

Not sure about the 3.0 but you can't pull the pump without pulling the pulley as the pulley blocks the bolt paths, as you found out.

It shouldn't be this hard to remove the ps pump or one nut.

Jay351

I pulled my 3.0 pump without removing the pulley. Its not really that difficult. Its defantly tight for those few mounting bolts, but its doable. I removed my pump with the bracket from the block. right up and out.

I was past my elbows in grease before the night was over...

Ardent

Yeah, I replaced mine w/o pulling the pulley. I spent an hour or so trying to remove the pulley ('cause that's what I read you had to do) before I gave up and found you can pull the whole thing out.

drew303

on 22r/e you dont need to remove the pulley. Either A) remove the bolts that hold the pump to bracket or B) remove the whole bracket.

all the bolts that hold the pump to the bracket are the same length and short. the one behind the pulley is short enough to come all the way out. the pulley shouldnt interfere with it at all, you just need to use an open ended wrench to get at it. if it's to long to come out then you got the wrong bolt in there or someone did.

and u dont need to disconnect the lines. save urself that mess.



this bolt.

Innervision

I tried for an hour to get the PS pump off without pulling the pulley. The nut holding the pump to the block will not come out without removing the pulley. Took an impact and a pickle fork to get the pulley off. I am not sure how people are getting the bracket bolt out without taking the pulley off.

You might try removing the belt and using a strap wrench for an oil filter to hold the pulley from turning. Not sure one would fit the pulley though.


good luck.

machine23

thank you guys all for the help on this. i havent had too much trouble tearing into my 3.slow but this ps pump is getting rediculous. and might i add that is one shiny engine bay you have there

GSGALLANT

You don't need to remove that long bolt that's behind the pulley. You only remove that if you want to separate the pump from the pump bracket. There are two nuts (maybe only one) and one bolt if I remember correctly that hold the PS pump bracket to the engine block. Remove those, then remove the pump/pulley/bracket from the engine as a single piece.

93offroader

I know I'm a few years late on the topic, but if anyone was having trouble like I was and found this thread I found the answer. Take a rubber wedge doorstop and put it under the belt in top of the pulley so that as you turn the bolt it will draw the wedge in and eventually it will hold the entire pully still. Redneck engineering at its finest.

shooter86314

Incredible. It must be some kind of assembly joke. One of my mounting bolts (or screw?) was too long (top front). I backed it out, jammed it against the pulley, and cut it off with a hack saw. It was about .6" longer than the short one, which was plenty long at .8".

Itza

OK - Here's what.... Just R&R'd my 94 T100 P/S pump. To get the pulley off an older model do this : First, spray the nut/spindle end with WD-40 and let it sit overnite.
Next, remove low pressure return hose from reservoir, remove cap, and allow reservoir to
drain into a small tub of some kind. Then crack loose reservoir bolts & remove reservoir to get more working room. Next, loosen belt tension bolt and TIGHTEN belt as much as possible.
Next, insert a small rubber wedge between pulley and belt -forcefully- on the top side. It will be drawn into the pulley as you try to loosen the nut and will tighten the belt even more, creating
a counter-torque to prevent the pulley from turning. Next - the older model pulleys have a hub protrusion on the back side, toward the pump face that is quite solid. You can just barely fit a good medium size
vise-grip back there from the top side and clamp onto the pulley hub after you have removed the reservoir mounting bolt. The combination of the over-tight belt, rubber wedge, and vise grip give you
enough counter force to get the nut off. After that, a little wiggling by hand should loosen the pulley and it will pop right off. It's on a Woodruff key, so it won't spin on the spindle. Your new pump should
include a new key.