How to fit 35's on a stock 3rd Gen... - Page 2

Toyofast · 01-01-2006, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rockota

Even w/ the pics, I can see no way they fit w/o rubbing the fender seem/firewall or the battery tray...

But... if you're doing it successfully, then more power to you!!!

I wheeled it all day today, I wasn't nice either. I only had minor rubbing on driverside firewall, yet passenger side clears better...go figure.

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Originally Posted by rockota

When you do the SAS, go 5.29's right away... skip the 4.88's.

Why? I had 5.29's in my old Toy with 35's and it was okay but that was with the 4 banger under the hood.

My 3.slow idles at 600rpms, dosen't seem to mind being lugged around all day long. On pavement the 35's and my 4.56's are fine. I don't plan to go taller than 36's anyway so 5.29's would be overkill for me. Plus duals with 4.7's in the rear case shouldn't pose any problems in the dirt.

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GodwinAustin · 01-01-2006, 07:58 PM

what the heck.

rockota · 01-01-2006, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Toyofast

Why? I had 5.29's in my old Toy with 35's and it was okay but that was with the 4 banger under the hood.

My 3.slow idles at 600rpms, dosen't seem to mind being lugged around all day long. On pavement the 35's and my 4.56's are fine. I don't plan to go taller than 36's anyway so 5.29's would be overkill for me. Plus duals with 4.7's in the rear case shouldn't pose any problems in the dirt.

3.0's don't like to be lugged; they like to be reved. 35's will need 5.29's to get back to near stock gearing if you have a 5-speed. You'll need 5.71's if you have an auto. I ran 4.88's w/ 33's and decided OD wasn't worth it anymore; the 3.0 is soooo happy above 3K rpms (and more efficient), that driving in 4th was not only more efficient, but more fun.

Run what you want, as long as you are happy, that's the important thing.

Toyofast · 01-01-2006, 11:03 PM

My truck has 4:6's stock. Plus your statement about what ratios for what tire size sure sounds like it came out of some cheezy off-road rag

You won't find many 5:71's as the pinion is very weak, FYI.

From today.. I was video guy so I am waiting for pictures to come about

sschaefer3 · 01-02-2006, 05:04 AM

I have a SSR 35x10.5 spare. Sucks up way higher. Sitting side by side with my Goodyear MT/R 35x12.5x15, the SSR 35x10.5x15 is the same height. All tires were new.

Never rolled on the SSR and probably never will. But it sure sucks up high.

On the 3rd Gen 4Runners it is the 12.5 part that is hard to deal with. Hence the shaved upper a-arms, etc.

As for this 3rd Gen pickup. The tires do work as he states, becuase the things have no articulaton what so ever. I know, I spend alot of time in one.

They bounce, not flex. Seriously, you have to "bounce" this truck through stuff.

AB, after bounceing. This was a really cheap fix. 40 bucks worth of Chevy rear leafs, a used Procomp 4" front bracket lift for 100 bucks and a set of ball joint spacers and the t-bars relaxed all the way.

Then all of a sudden the bouncer could run Aftershock at the Hammers, with 2 ARB's and a 4.7 gearset.

Now if you all of a sudden had all the "flex" old Krusty now has, you would be in trouble.

Bounce on son, bounce on..........

Get er done...........

You aint skeerd.............

rockota · 01-02-2006, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Toyofast

My truck has 4:6's stock. Plus your statement about what ratios for what tire size sure sounds like it came out of some cheezy off-road rag

You won't find many 5:71's as the pinion is very weak, FYI.

I've built 5 trucks, wheeled many more. Been doing this for a very long time. Call the opinion cheesy if you want, but it's just math, not opinion. 5.71s are "weaker," but many people run them with great success, just like many people run stock gears w/ large tires successfully. Do the math, you'll see that 5.29's are the correct gear for a 5-speed equipped truck w/ 35's. Run what you want - as said, if you are happy, that's all that matters.

91ToyTrck · 03-04-2006, 02:38 AM

I know this is an old thread, but I would just like to say that Toyofast is my hero. I now know w/out a doubt that my 33x10.50s will fit perfect up under my truck. I know that I can do some different things rather then putting mass amounts of money into a suspension lift. I can upgrade and make things run better, but have my 33s and good times in the process.

ps...I agree with stock gears and 35s. I ran the stock gearing in my 92 w/ 4+3+35s.

tc · 03-04-2006, 01:20 PM

Um ... there's several people on here running 33x10.50 with no lift and NO rubbing...(myself included)

Toyofast · 03-04-2006, 10:03 PM

I see 33x10.5 all day long in my area on every Toyota truck/Runner. I also see plenty of 35-36" tires wedged onto stock height Toyotas too..... People here are a different breed.

The 35's just keep getting smaller and smaller

I still really like the 35x10.5 tires....

killa66cam · 03-05-2006, 09:34 PM

Great looking truck man. I wish I was brave enough to try to shoe-horn some 35"ers under my truck.

So, I have just began thinking about running some 33"x10.5" (thanks to this post). Since it seems that many people have done this, on stock toyotas, I have another question. If I run the 33"x10.5", whould I need to run a specific width of 15" rim? I was thinking of doing a 15"x8", but was wondering if this would be too wide and may cause rubbing. I have some rubbing now with my 32"x11.5" and would like to alleviate that. Thanks for any help.

Toyofast · 03-06-2006, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by killa66cam

Great looking truck man. I wish I was brave enough to try to shoe-horn some 35"ers under my truck.

The wife hated the look of 31's and 33's on my Toyota, she said to go as big as I could...without having to lift it, so I did.

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Originally Posted by killa66cam

So, I have just began thinking about running some 33"x10.5" (thanks to this post). Since it seems that many people have done this, on stock toyotas, I have another question. If I run the 33"x10.5", whould I need to run a specific width of 15" rim? I was thinking of doing a 15"x8", but was wondering if this would be too wide and may cause rubbing. I have some rubbing now with my 32"x11.5" and would like to alleviate that. Thanks for any help.

I think 15x8 wheels would be fine with 33x10.5 tires. I ran 33x10.5 Swamper radials on the stock 15x7 Toyota wheels. I think the swampers ran a bit narrower than say the 33x10.5 BFG's do.

Years ago I ran 34x9.5's on 15x8 wheels... okay for street but in the dirt I blew beads like mad.

killa66cam · 03-08-2006, 09:43 AM

Thanks for the info. They actually don't make the rim I was wanting in that size. So back to the drawing-board. I think I'm gonna do the 17"x9" Helo Maxx 6's in the black on a Nitto 265/75/R17 for the time being. I'm going to go to bigger tires when I do the solid axle swap, hopefully next summer. May do a body lift too, dunno know yet. I appreciate you help though. Again, great looking truck...too cool! later

Wildcat_4R · 03-08-2006, 06:39 PM

Just want to make sure ya'll got your info straight on 5.71 gears. Not exactly seeing how they are weaker. Here's a good link to look at:

http://www.gearinstalls.com/410suck.htm

I really like the look of 35s on a stock height suspension. You have a nice looking truck. Have you had any issues with bent steering or blown CVs with the new sized tires?

964runner · 03-08-2006, 10:14 PM

i was disappointed when i looked at the thread i thought you were talking about a 3rd gen 4runner

motoracer47 · 03-11-2006, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 964runner

i was disappointed when i looked at the thread i thought you were talking about a 3rd gen 4runner

probably why this is posted in the 86-95 forum, just my guess though.

914runner · 03-12-2006, 04:58 PM

Do you work at a Toyota Dealer? I thought I saw your rig out back of the dealer when I was there ther other day.

Toyofast · 03-12-2006, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat_4R

I really like the look of 35s on a stock height suspension. You have a nice looking truck. Have you had any issues with bent steering or blown CVs with the new sized tires?

Steering is fine. No issues. CV's don't normaly blow unless a locker is tossed into the front end. IFS+locker+CV's= Ka-Boom!

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Originally Posted by 914runner

Do you work at a Toyota Dealer? I thought I saw your rig out back of the dealer when I was there ther other day.

Yep. I work at Toyota of Gladstone. I'm in the parts detention center there

dmatter · 05-29-2006, 07:18 PM

Looks Like I will buying 35x10.50x15 Tires for my 88 4Runner I Can't stand the Thought of "Lifting" a Truck if you Don't Need to! Why Raise the Center of Gravity of Something you Damn Near Flip all the Time???????? As it is Stock???????? Plus Oem/Stock Look is by Far Cooler then "Jacked Up" Gone Country

Toyofast · 05-30-2006, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dmatter

Looks Like I will buying 35x10.50x15 Tires for my 88 4Runner I Can't stand the Thought of "Lifting" a Truck if you Don't Need to! Why Raise the Center of Gravity of Something you Damn Near Flip all the Time???????? As it is Stock???????? Plus Oem/Stock Look is by Far Cooler then "Jacked Up" Gone Country

Cool. Although don't keep wheelin' with 35's. I have no front diff now. freakin 7.5" front is pretty week. I roasted the ring and pinion a few weeks back doing some very minor wheeling on some rocks. Made some cool sounds but the aftermath took some skillfull work to get the truck out of the gully.

fork · 11-18-2006, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by killa66cam

I was thinking of doing a 15"x8", but was wondering if this would be too wide and may cause rubbing. I have some rubbing now with my 32"x11.5" and would like to alleviate that.

I run bfg 32x11.5"s on 15x8"s on my '94 x-cab. Stock height, rear add-a-leaf. I used to have rubbing, until I reversed my mudflaps off, and then pruned the area around it. I think it's a good compromise between stock and 33x12.5"s. They fit nicely into the body.

Hypoid · 11-29-2008, 10:12 PM

Can anyone fix the OP pics?

sa51 · 11-29-2008, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killa66cam

Great looking truck man. I wish I was brave enough to try to shoe-horn some 35"ers under my truck.

So, I have just began thinking about running some 33"x10.5" (thanks to this post). Since it seems that many people have done this, on stock toyotas, I have another question. If I run the 33"x10.5", whould I need to run a specific width of 15" rim? I was thinking of doing a 15"x8", but was wondering if this would be too wide and may cause rubbing. I have some rubbing now with my 32"x11.5" and would like to alleviate that. Thanks for any help.

i am running stock taco rims....theyre 7.5 inches wide if i'm not mistaken. i wouldnt go any wider then that for a 10.5 inch wide tire, in my opinion.

i wish BFG made a 35x10.5

tc · 11-30-2008, 10:53 AM

Wow, the 2 yr anniversary bump?

Junkers88 · 01-16-2009, 02:25 PM

Is there anyway to fix the pictures at the beginning of this??

X-AWDriver · 01-17-2009, 06:15 AM

The thread is over three years old so the original poster has removed his photo links so no they can't be fixed. This really is a dead thread now.

01-01-2006, 07:58 PM	#27 (permalink)
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sschaefer3 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 5,494	I have a SSR 35x10.5 spare. Sucks up way higher. Sitting side by side with my Goodyear MT/R 35x12.5x15, the SSR 35x10.5x15 is the same height. All tires were new. Never rolled on the SSR and probably never will. But it sure sucks up high. On the 3rd Gen 4Runners it is the 12.5 part that is hard to deal with. Hence the shaved upper a-arms, etc. As for this 3rd Gen pickup. The tires do work as he states, becuase the things have no articulaton what so ever. I know, I spend alot of time in one. They bounce, not flex. Seriously, you have to "bounce" this truck through stuff. AB, after bounceing. This was a really cheap fix. 40 bucks worth of Chevy rear leafs, a used Procomp 4" front bracket lift for 100 bucks and a set of ball joint spacers and the t-bars relaxed all the way. Then all of a sudden the bouncer could run Aftershock at the Hammers, with 2 ARB's and a 4.7 gearset. Now if you all of a sudden had all the "flex" old Krusty now has, you would be in trouble. Bounce on son, bounce on.......... Get er done........... You aint skeerd............. __________________ Steve Schaefer *WWW.SonoranSteel.Com* Suspension Lift Kits * Rock Sliders * Straight Axle Conversions * 4Runner/FJC Rubicon Express Lower Links * Accessories * Daystar Products Dealer * TJM Bull Bar Dealer * Deaver Leaf Spring Dealer * Tokico & Bilstein Shock Dealer * ViAir Dealer * Total Chaos Dealer * TOYTEC Dealer * and like everyone else a Trail Gear Dealer

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91ToyTrck Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 574	I know this is an old thread, but I would just like to say that Toyofast is my hero. I now know w/out a doubt that my 33x10.50s will fit perfect up under my truck. I know that I can do some different things rather then putting mass amounts of money into a suspension lift. I can upgrade and make things run better, but have my 33s and good times in the process. ps...I agree with stock gears and 35s. I ran the stock gearing in my 92 w/ 4+3+35s. __________________ '97 Jeep Grand Cherokee DD till I can afford my '05+ Tacoma

03-04-2006, 01:20 PM	#33 (permalink)
tc Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 8,372	Um ... there's several people on here running 33x10.50 with no lift and NO rubbing...(myself included) __________________ Check out www.coTTORA.org to hook up with great Toyota 'wheelin' folks! Current - 93 4Runner: 3VZ 33"x10.50" no lift ARB F/R 96 Impala SS: My own personal cop car Previous - 89 2WD Pickup 22R, Fabtech "Ivan Dan" lift, 31x10.50, IASCA World Finals 4th Place Stop with the mods and get on the trail! Pix at www.4wheelingoh.shutterfly.com/action

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killa66cam Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Camden, SC Posts: 72	Great looking truck man. I wish I was brave enough to try to shoe-horn some 35"ers under my truck. So, I have just began thinking about running some 33"x10.5" (thanks to this post). Since it seems that many people have done this, on stock toyotas, I have another question. If I run the 33"x10.5", whould I need to run a specific width of 15" rim? I was thinking of doing a 15"x8", but was wondering if this would be too wide and may cause rubbing. I have some rubbing now with my 32"x11.5" and would like to alleviate that. Thanks for any help. __________________ 1994 Toyota Pickup DX, Reg. Cab, 17x9 Helo Maxx 6 Black, Nitto Trerra Grappler 265/70/R17, LCE Street Header, LCE Test Pipe, LCE Exhaust, Diamond Plate Toolbox, Chrome Step Bars, Warn Push Bar w/ Winch Plate (no winch, awww)

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Toyofast Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Troutdale, OR Posts: 113	My truck has 4:6's stock. Plus your statement about what ratios for what tire size sure sounds like it came out of some cheezy off-road rag You won't find many 5:71's as the pinion is very weak, FYI. From today.. I was video guy so I am waiting for pictures to come about

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Toyofast Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Troutdale, OR Posts: 113	I see 33x10.5 all day long in my area on every Toyota truck/Runner. I also see plenty of 35-36" tires wedged onto stock height Toyotas too..... People here are a different breed. The 35's just keep getting smaller and smaller I still really like the 35x10.5 tires....

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killa66cam Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Camden, SC Posts: 72	Thanks for the info. They actually don't make the rim I was wanting in that size. So back to the drawing-board. I think I'm gonna do the 17"x9" Helo Maxx 6's in the black on a Nitto 265/75/R17 for the time being. I'm going to go to bigger tires when I do the solid axle swap, hopefully next summer. May do a body lift too, dunno know yet. I appreciate you help though. Again, great looking truck...too cool! later __________________ 1994 Toyota Pickup DX, Reg. Cab, 17x9 Helo Maxx 6 Black, Nitto Trerra Grappler 265/70/R17, LCE Street Header, LCE Test Pipe, LCE Exhaust, Diamond Plate Toolbox, Chrome Step Bars, Warn Push Bar w/ Winch Plate (no winch, awww)

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Wildcat_4R Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Tucson, Az Posts: 144	Just want to make sure ya'll got your info straight on 5.71 gears. Not exactly seeing how they are weaker. Here's a good link to look at: http://www.gearinstalls.com/410suck.htm I really like the look of 35s on a stock height suspension. You have a nice looking truck. Have you had any issues with bent steering or blown CVs with the new sized tires? __________________ '87 4-Runner w/ a 22re and some stuff...

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