How to fit 35's on a stock 3rd Gen...

Toyofast · 12-18-2005, 02:37 PM

How does someone fit 35's onto a stock 3rd Gen Toyota? All I did was bolt them on

35x10.5's fit with very minor rubbing. I haven't even trimmed anything yet, just minor hammer pounding the pinch weld in the front fenders.

Not much tech but they sure look cool, IMO.

Stats:
Tires: 35x10.5 Interco SSR's
Wheels: Stock Toyota SR5 Alloys
Suspension: Stock
Shocks: Crappy Ranchos
Other Mods: NONE.

Just to show that 35's do fit.....

The rear fenders could use a slight trim job but this truck isn't a show queen and light rubbin' won't bother me.

Here you can see the stance...

Track width is about the same as with 31x10.5's...

They do buldge out of the fenders a bit more than my old 33x10.5's but it's fine by me.

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SnoViking · 12-18-2005, 02:38 PM

wow... thats alot of tire under that truck

BAZ · 12-18-2005, 03:09 PM

Looking good. How are those tires in the snow? My buddy just moved to Bend a from WI a few months ago and loves it.

:EDIT: Are you running 4.88's?

calrockx · 12-18-2005, 03:10 PM

i didn't know 35s come in the 10.5" variety.

yeah it's not the 35"ness that'll get you, it's the 12.50" width that will.

JamesD · 12-18-2005, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calrockx

i didn't know 35s come in the 10.5" variety.

yeah it's not the 35"ness that'll get you, it's the 12.50" width that will.

I was wondering how he did fit 35's on a 7" rim

James

93Yota · 12-18-2005, 04:48 PM

Wow, that sure does fill up them fender wells.....Looks mean though

Epic Ed · 12-18-2005, 04:55 PM

It's not something I would do, but to each his own. Without some lift you have effectively reduced your range of motion which in most cases on the trail equates to less obstacles you can over come. But whatever -- you build it how you wanna. Any plans for addiing some lift?

Ed

Toyofast · 12-18-2005, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAZ

:EDIT: Are you running 4.88's?

Nope. Just the stock 4.56's. It works okay. Next summer when the SAS takes place I'll swap in 4.88's to get the powerband back to where it should be. I still use all the gears like normal, adding the 35's I've only noticed a slight drop in rpms at certain speeds.

Quote:

Originally Posted by calrockx

i didn't know 35s come in the 10.5" variety.

Here in the US there are not many to pick from. Other countries more options when it comes to 34x10.5's, 35x10.5's sizes. I had to wait until my 33's went into the trash before my wife would allow the 35's.

Only thing about the SSR's are that they measure out true to their stated size. On the truck(loaded) these are about a mm below a full 35" in height. Quite tall.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Epic Ed

It's not something I would do, but to each his own. Without some lift you have effectively reduced your range of motion which in most cases on the trail equates to less obstacles you can over come. But whatever -- you build it how you wanna. Any plans for addiing some lift?

Ed

How have I reduced my range of motion? Stock IFS is still weak when it comes to flex. I have the same amount of wheel travel as I did with 33's or 31's for that matter. Why run 33's when I can run 35's without issues? I have much more ground clearance than with 33's plus it sits nice and low.

I'll never add a IFS lift, just no point. SAS is next summer but even with the SAS in place it'll still be a low rider. I hate tall lifts. Keep it low, put on big tires and add the correct gearing and the truck will go anywhere.

Epic Ed · 12-18-2005, 07:02 PM

It looks like your upward wheel travel is obstructed by the size of the tire. No?

Ed

BeaterToyota · 12-18-2005, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toyofast

I'll never add a IFS lift, just no point. I hate tall lifts. Keep it low, put on big tires and add the correct gearing and the truck will go anywhere.

Amen. I might have to use that as my new signature.

My lowrider on 32"s, with dual cases, spooled rear, and basically stock IFS can out-wheel a lot of other more built rigs. (Plus I don't really care too much about body damage. That makes the hard trails a lot easier

).

Flamedx4 · 12-18-2005, 07:35 PM

Those are great pictures of tires that don't really fit. I'm amazed that you can turn at all, even the slightest bump while turning must rub something fierce. If you are happy with that little clearance then I can't imagine why you think you need a SAS.

Interesting about the SSRs actually being the stated size. I've known 2 sets of SSRs and one set of TSL radials and all three were a full size smaller than nominal! I thought it was just a Swamper trait...

AUYota · 12-18-2005, 08:28 PM

i'd still go with a one inch body lift on that bad boy, but nice job

Flamedx4 · 12-18-2005, 08:36 PM

MOre like 3".

But I agree, it does look pretty cool.

Toyofast · 12-18-2005, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Epic Ed

It looks like your upward wheel travel is obstructed by the size of the tire. No?

Ed

No. The pictures are not the best. Even with the front suspension compressed as much as it was in the pictures, I was able to turn the wheel fully in each direction. Sure the tire touched but it's slight enough that no damge will be caused to the tire or fender(s). The amount of rubbing would be gone if I had an extra 1/2" of room, if that.

Once our small winter storm passes I'll be taking care of the fenders. Light amount of trimming and will chop out the section of firewall that is rubbing and move it back about 1-2".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flamedx4

Those are great pictures of tires that don't really fit. I'm amazed that you can turn at all, even the slightest bump while turning must rub something fierce. If you are happy with that little clearance then I can't imagine why you think you need a SAS.

The main reason to do the SAS is for added strength. The Toyota IFS is weak, plain and simple. Who in their right mind would want to work on that front end? All those moving parts, so many things to go wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flamedx4

Interesting about the SSRs actually being the stated size. I've known 2 sets of SSRs and one set of TSL radials and all three were a full size smaller than nominal! I thought it was just a Swamper trait...

I have owned a few sets of swampers, TSL(bias), radials, and SSR's. The only swampers that were off in measurement vs. actual height was the radials. Stated as 33's but really about 31.5" tall. My old 34x9.5's were really close to 34" tall, my 33x12.5's were nice and close to 33". Only tire I was disapointed with were my 35" BFG Muds...which were came up to about 34" tall.

The best part about adding these 35's to the stock truck is that now my wife is happy. Even with the 33's on the truck she thought that it looked odd and was always asking when I'd put bigger tires onto it. She likes the look of fenderwells that are filled. She was used to our old Toyota which was pure trail rig rather than a DD. She even asked when here truck would get bigger tires, that's another project all together

Flamedx4 · 12-19-2005, 10:39 AM

Ah, all the tires I mentioned were indeed radials. I will never own another bias ply tire. (famous last words...

)

At least you got the important part covered! (The wife is happy...

)

westy44runner · 12-19-2005, 02:31 PM

I've always seen that tire manufactures have a tendency to manufacture the tall, narrower tires to closer spec in height than the wider, tall tires.

The truck looks good...if you are doing an SAS in the future a 1" BL might not be a bad idea to put on now, give you a little more clearance and it will be nice to have if you plan on a low slung SAS (3-4"), keeps your COG lower with all the drivetrain not raised just the body and it will give you more tire options after the SAS and be able to mount longer shocks, etc.

cool to see you step out of the box and just throw 35s on a stock Toy.

Keggo · 12-19-2005, 04:26 PM

I now have a new thing to do on my mod list... 35x10.5's. mmm.

86toyota · 12-19-2005, 04:50 PM

Little off topic here, but why did my pro comp 4" lift kit say 33 is the biggest tire I can run? I've thought about running 35's before, and if you can do it with no lift, why is this a problem with my lift?

Silver_Truck · 12-19-2005, 05:45 PM

looks pretty sweet. Now you need a locker and some more articulation to make use of those tires. I bet they're going to rub like a bitch those if you make that thing flexier and use low pro bump stops

Toyofast · 12-19-2005, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86toyota

Little off topic here, but why did my pro comp 4" lift kit say 33 is the biggest tire I can run? I've thought about running 35's before, and if you can do it with no lift, why is this a problem with the my lift?

Liability issues maybe... Or the fact that most tires in the 33" range are 12.5 in width. Plus most lift manufactures tell you what you can run without having to trim any sheet metal. If you have no fear of trimming some metal then you can fit what ever sized tire you want.

Narrower tires fit easier due to the scrub radius when turning. Less tire to get hung up on things.

Flamedx4 · 12-20-2005, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86toyota

Little off topic here, but why did my pro comp 4" lift kit say 33 is the biggest tire I can run? I've thought about running 35's before, and if you can do it with no lift, why is this a problem with my lift?

Cuz with 33x12:50 and 8" rims even with 4" lift you will be able to rub a little. But, with 33x10.50 and 7" stockers you wouldn't need any lift. Amazing what a little extra scrub radius will do,eh?

But look at it this way - at least they are being utterly realistic with their recommendations - as if they think you may actually use their product offroad - usually a company claims crap like their 1" lift will fit up to 35s! But they don't bother to tell you that the only time they won't rub is straight ahead on smooth ground....

I have a 4" (3" really) suspension lift and 3"body lift, 35x12.50s on 15x8.5s (with the most backspacing I can fit and not rub,) and with my front swaybar disconnected I can get the tires to rub on trails.

jeremys73 · 12-22-2005, 01:36 PM

I like them... I'm fond of a lower center of gravity too...

914runner · 01-01-2006, 02:44 AM

Me likey...now I just need to find some nice 35x10.5's! Are there any radial 35x10.5's?

Thanks

Flamedx4 · 01-01-2006, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 914runner

Me likey...now I just need to find some nice 35x10.5's! Are there any radial 35x10.5's?

Thanks

The only radial that size I've ever seen is the Swamper SSR.

rockota · 01-01-2006, 03:38 PM

Even w/ the pics, I can see no way they fit w/o rubbing the fender seem/firewall or the battery tray...

But... if you're doing it successfully, then more power to you!!!

When you do the SAS, go 5.29's right away... skip the 4.88's.

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SnoViking Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: York PA Posts: 786	wow... thats alot of tire under that truck __________________ Pat 1999 4Runner SR5 V6 4WD - Brush Guard, lift, Duelers, roof rack, acouple lights ~You will always be my little boy~ Hobbes (11/28/05) Future mods- more lift, tire gate, sliders, better lights, engine upgrades.

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BAZ Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Killwaukee, Wiscompton. Posts: 465	Looking good. How are those tires in the snow? My buddy just moved to Bend a from WI a few months ago and loves it. :EDIT: Are you running 4.88's? __________________ R.I.P. 1994 x-cab DLX 4WD 22R-E 5-speed: 31x10.5 Treadwright Green Diamond OTR \| SR-5 Wheels, Cluster, Steering Wheel \| T-Bar Crank/Rear Shackles \| Hella 500 \| No Sway Bar, Mudflaps, Valance \| Dents, Scratches \| 1990 Civic Si -Stock daily driver/gas sipper. Last edited by BAZ; 12-18-2005 at 03:18 PM.

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calrockx Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Santa Clarita, California Posts: 4,742	i didn't know 35s come in the 10.5" variety. yeah it's not the 35"ness that'll get you, it's the 12.50" width that will. __________________ [2002 4Runner 4WD]

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Epic Ed Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 654	It's not something I would do, but to each his own. Without some lift you have effectively reduced your range of motion which in most cases on the trail equates to less obstacles you can over come. But whatever -- you build it how you wanna. Any plans for addiing some lift? Ed __________________ '95 4Runner\|32x11.5 BFG TA KOs\|Hi-flow Cat\|Dynomax muffler; 2.25" exhaust\| Downey Headers\|4.88 gears \|Detroit EZ locker \|Detroit TruTrack\|BJ spacers\|Downey HD coils\|2" rear spring spacers\|Rancho RS9000X/RS5000s\|WARN hubs\|TJM T15

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Epic Ed Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 654	It looks like your upward wheel travel is obstructed by the size of the tire. No? Ed __________________ '95 4Runner\|32x11.5 BFG TA KOs\|Hi-flow Cat\|Dynomax muffler; 2.25" exhaust\| Downey Headers\|4.88 gears \|Detroit EZ locker \|Detroit TruTrack\|BJ spacers\|Downey HD coils\|2" rear spring spacers\|Rancho RS9000X/RS5000s\|WARN hubs\|TJM T15

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93Yota Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 7	Wow, that sure does fill up them fender wells.....Looks mean though

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Flamedx4 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: 100 miles offshore as much as possible, & Springfield Oregon USA Posts: 3,285	Those are great pictures of tires that don't really fit. I'm amazed that you can turn at all, even the slightest bump while turning must rub something fierce. If you are happy with that little clearance then I can't imagine why you think you need a SAS. Interesting about the SSRs actually being the stated size. I've known 2 sets of SSRs and one set of TSL radials and all three were a full size smaller than nominal! I thought it was just a Swamper trait... __________________ All my Yotas are gone. Stuff to sell: http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...39#post1009839 -Phil

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AUYota Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA. Posts: 190	i'd still go with a one inch body lift on that bad boy, but nice job

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Flamedx4 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: 100 miles offshore as much as possible, & Springfield Oregon USA Posts: 3,285	MOre like 3". But I agree, it does look pretty cool. __________________ All my Yotas are gone. Stuff to sell: http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...39#post1009839 -Phil

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Flamedx4 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: 100 miles offshore as much as possible, & Springfield Oregon USA Posts: 3,285	Ah, all the tires I mentioned were indeed radials. I will never own another bias ply tire. (famous last words... ) At least you got the important part covered! (The wife is happy... ) __________________ All my Yotas are gone. Stuff to sell: http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...39#post1009839 -Phil

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westy44runner Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 964	I've always seen that tire manufactures have a tendency to manufacture the tall, narrower tires to closer spec in height than the wider, tall tires. The truck looks good...if you are doing an SAS in the future a 1" BL might not be a bad idea to put on now, give you a little more clearance and it will be nice to have if you plan on a low slung SAS (3-4"), keeps your COG lower with all the drivetrain not raised just the body and it will give you more tire options after the SAS and be able to mount longer shocks, etc. cool to see you step out of the box and just throw 35s on a stock Toy. __________________ '86 Toy Flatbed with a few modifications

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Keggo Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bakersfield, CA Posts: 1,831	I now have a new thing to do on my mod list... 35x10.5's. mmm. __________________ - Kevin E. G. SOLD!!! '91 4Runner SR5 V6 5spd: CLICK!! FOR SALE NOW! Proud dad of Kai E. G.!

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86toyota Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Trafford, Pa Posts: 1,158	Little off topic here, but why did my pro comp 4" lift kit say 33 is the biggest tire I can run? I've thought about running 35's before, and if you can do it with no lift, why is this a problem with my lift? __________________ Gregg 86 yota extra cab, 4" Pro comp, 33's, cam, header,CF Dual friction, K&N, and so on... (SOLD) 89 toyota 4x4 flatbed MY TRUCK Last edited by 86toyota; 12-19-2005 at 06:27 PM.

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Silver_Truck Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: B'ham, WA Posts: 1,800	looks pretty sweet. Now you need a locker and some more articulation to make use of those tires. I bet they're going to rub like a bitch those if you make that thing flexier and use low pro bump stops __________________ -Geoff 1991 Toyota Pickup Ext. Cab SR5 4x4 V6 5 spd K&N intake, port & polished heads with OS valves, port & polished intake manifold and plenum, NWOR headers and crossover, NWOR catback, Denso Iridium plugs, Redline Fluids, 4.88s, Rear LockRight, Aisin hubs, Chevy springs, BJ spacers, 2" RB body lift, 34x10.5 Swamper LTBs, WolphisWorks Sliders and bumpers, 400,000 mi. Last edited by Silver_Truck; 12-19-2005 at 06:34 PM.*

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jeremys73 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: North America Posts: 490	I like them... I'm fond of a lower center of gravity too... __________________ 1998 TOYOTA 4RUNNER 3.4l \| Auto \| eLocker

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914runner Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tigard, Oregon Posts: 2,083	Me likey...now I just need to find some nice 35x10.5's! Are there any radial 35x10.5's? Thanks __________________ 1997 Toyota 4Runner, 3.4L (5VZ-FE), 5-Speed (R150F), 4WD, 4.10's, 33's 1998 Toyota 4Runner, 3.4L (5VZ-FE), 5-Speed (R150F), 4WD, 4.10's, 33's 1991 Toyota 4Runner 4 Door, 3.4l (5VZ-FE), 5-Speed (R150F), 4WD, 32's, 4.10's

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rockota Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 742	Even w/ the pics, I can see no way they fit w/o rubbing the fender seem/firewall or the battery tray... But... if you're doing it successfully, then more power to you!!! When you do the SAS, go 5.29's right away... skip the 4.88's.

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