How Do I...? Help ASAP.

Belize Off Road Team · 04-09-2008, 02:44 PM

i just picked up a 3rd brake light from the roof of a 90+ pick-up and i want to install it on my 91 4Runner. i was told that the 90/91 came with the wires for the 3rd brake lights but were never offerd as an option. same thing with the upper rear speakers by the cargo lamps, wires are there but never an option till 92+.?

So does anybody know what the scoop is with wires? i know that i am going to have to move the wiper motor over a little bit and drill one hole for the wires and 3 more holes for the screws. is there anything i should be be worried about? the sooner i get answers the sooner i get it installed and get pics up, so please any info will help.

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Belize Off Road Team · 04-09-2008, 04:05 PM

can anybody help me please

just a 22re · 04-09-2008, 04:10 PM

yeah man i wish i knew but i dont any idea if the 87 came with that there rear speaker thingy too?

Belize Off Road Team · 04-09-2008, 04:14 PM

not to my knowledge because the top is removable. i'm going to check tomorrow for the wires if i cant get any help on here.

just a 22re · 04-09-2008, 04:20 PM

yeah i dont know anything about them but if you take the cover for the rear motor off the plug should be there aye? if not try at the main harness on the drivers side by the lower plastic panel im just shooting blanks here so i hope it helps man

Belize Off Road Team · 04-09-2008, 04:22 PM

it should help, thank you.

Noltz · 04-09-2008, 06:32 PM

I was going to do the same thing, using a LED 3'rd from a GM Safari (lower profile). My intention was just to grab the 12v+ wire at the drivers side brake bulb and pigtail it off there. LEDs draw very little power. I think you'll be fine with the same setup.

bigt · 04-09-2008, 06:39 PM

yup.. i have a 3rd brake light on my 94 trail rig with no options and no brake light on my 93 with ac and all options... i can look and see if the wires are there tommorow

Belize Off Road Team · 04-10-2008, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noltz

I was going to do the same thing, using a LED 3'rd from a GM Safari (lower profile). My intention was just to grab the 12v+ wire at the drivers side brake bulb and pigtail it off there. LEDs draw very little power. I think you'll be fine with the same setup.

well i had a look at the bulb from the 3rd brake light and it is different to any other bulb. it is bigger than the 194 used in the clearance lights but smaller than the 1156 used in reverse/indicators.

and i ripped the panel out today and there are no wires going up to where the brake light goes. but they gave me 5' of the wires with the brake light so i'm going to have to run it down and tie into the brake lights but i got two wires with the brake light and i am confused. what are the wires for?
green with white stripe and white with black stripe.

Blizzard · 04-10-2008, 07:00 AM

My '94 4Runner has an orange plug below the wiper motor trim for the 3rd brake light.

I've never seen an European 2nd Gen 4Runner with stock 3rd brake light but the plug is here, I put an aftermarket one (Inside the trunk, bolted to the plastic piece) and it works OK.

David

MMA_Alex · 04-10-2008, 07:54 AM

uh well as far as i know on the pickups anyway it wasnt offered until 94 because it wasnt required until 94. I dont know about the 4runners but I dont think theres gunna be wires there.

Belize Off Road Team · 04-10-2008, 11:47 AM

i check and didnt see any, so i pulled out the taillights, followed the 2 wires from the brake light into the cargo area(pulled the side panel) and cut off a small section of coating, wrapped the 3rd brake light wires to the brake wires and it works! with an LED, so now i just have to punch 3 holes for the mounts and 1 big hole for the wires/gromet and mount it. i'll try and mount it tonight.

stormin94 · 04-10-2008, 01:34 PM

I think I have a thread of an XM satellite radio install. I routed my antenna through the 3rd brake light, and I have a pic from the inside with the wiper motor. I'll look.

stormin94 · 04-10-2008, 02:15 PM

Here's my thread. It's not quite what you are doing, but I did remove the 3rd brake light, and there are some decent pics of that area, and it shows how it is mounted.

http://www.yotatech.com/f123/beyond-...arning-139807/

04-09-2008, 04:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
Belize Off Road Team Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Corozal Town, Belize Posts: 2,752	can anybody help me please __________________ -Phyl 1991 Hilux Surf SSR-G Petrol 3.0L V6 200,000kms l Rancho RS5000 l 31"x10.50"xR15 Pro Comp Xterrain l K&N Air Filter l PP 1" Lift Coil Springs l Optima Blue Top l 12" JBL Subs l Alpine Type R l 80/100W Hella H4 l 1st Gen Roll Bar Mod l FT/RR Diff. Breathers l Smittybilt XRC8 Winch l ARB Bull Bar l トヨタ\|NEVER QUIT

04-09-2008, 04:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
Belize Off Road Team Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Corozal Town, Belize Posts: 2,752	not to my knowledge because the top is removable. i'm going to check tomorrow for the wires if i cant get any help on here. __________________ -Phyl 1991 Hilux Surf SSR-G Petrol 3.0L V6 200,000kms l Rancho RS5000 l 31"x10.50"xR15 Pro Comp Xterrain l K&N Air Filter l PP 1" Lift Coil Springs l Optima Blue Top l 12" JBL Subs l Alpine Type R l 80/100W Hella H4 l 1st Gen Roll Bar Mod l FT/RR Diff. Breathers l Smittybilt XRC8 Winch l ARB Bull Bar l トヨタ\|NEVER QUIT

04-09-2008, 04:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
Belize Off Road Team Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Corozal Town, Belize Posts: 2,752	it should help, thank you. __________________ -Phyl 1991 Hilux Surf SSR-G Petrol 3.0L V6 200,000kms l Rancho RS5000 l 31"x10.50"xR15 Pro Comp Xterrain l K&N Air Filter l PP 1" Lift Coil Springs l Optima Blue Top l 12" JBL Subs l Alpine Type R l 80/100W Hella H4 l 1st Gen Roll Bar Mod l FT/RR Diff. Breathers l Smittybilt XRC8 Winch l ARB Bull Bar l トヨタ\|NEVER QUIT

04-09-2008, 06:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
Noltz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 372	I was going to do the same thing, using a LED 3'rd from a GM Safari (lower profile). My intention was just to grab the 12v+ wire at the drivers side brake bulb and pigtail it off there. LEDs draw very little power. I think you'll be fine with the same setup. __________________ •-Noltz-• '95 4Runner SR5, mostly Stock, w/OBA & AirLifts. His. '97 4Runner Limited, Stock w/E-Locker & 285s. Hers. '91 4Runner, 3" BL, 35's & 8000# Winch. SOLD

04-09-2008, 06:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
bigt Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: chippawa niagara falls ontario Posts: 3,200	yup.. i have a 3rd brake light on my 94 trail rig with no options and no brake light on my 93 with ac and all options... i can look and see if the wires are there tommorow __________________ 1991 HILUX SURF SSR-X turbo diesel right hand drive toyota imported in 2005 from japan, 130,000 km 31 bfg a/t auto current build 1987 LWB suzuki samurai. turning 2 into one.. yota axles welded front to back, yota springs , ifs steering box,, this bad boy will not only eat jeeps but toyotas aswell \m/

04-10-2008, 07:00 AM	#10 (permalink)
Blizzard Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Barcelona (Spain) Posts: 912	My '94 4Runner has an orange plug below the wiper motor trim for the 3rd brake light. I've never seen an European 2nd Gen 4Runner with stock 3rd brake light but the plug is here, I put an aftermarket one (Inside the trunk, bolted to the plastic piece) and it works OK. David __________________ '94 Toyota 4Runner 3.0 Turbo Diesel Intercooler Auto – Trail-Gear 4'' SAS front, Trail-Gear 5'' rear leaves swap, 35's, FR&RR E-Lockers and too many things more to write...

04-10-2008, 07:54 AM	#11 (permalink)
MMA_Alex Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Downeast, ME/Rochester, NY Posts: 1,421	uh well as far as i know on the pickups anyway it wasnt offered until 94 because it wasnt required until 94. I dont know about the 4runners but I dont think theres gunna be wires there.

04-10-2008, 11:47 AM	#12 (permalink)
Belize Off Road Team Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Corozal Town, Belize Posts: 2,752	i check and didnt see any, so i pulled out the taillights, followed the 2 wires from the brake light into the cargo area(pulled the side panel) and cut off a small section of coating, wrapped the 3rd brake light wires to the brake wires and it works! with an LED, so now i just have to punch 3 holes for the mounts and 1 big hole for the wires/gromet and mount it. i'll try and mount it tonight. __________________ -Phyl 1991 Hilux Surf SSR-G Petrol 3.0L V6 200,000kms l Rancho RS5000 l 31"x10.50"xR15 Pro Comp Xterrain l K&N Air Filter l PP 1" Lift Coil Springs l Optima Blue Top l 12" JBL Subs l Alpine Type R l 80/100W Hella H4 l 1st Gen Roll Bar Mod l FT/RR Diff. Breathers l Smittybilt XRC8 Winch l ARB Bull Bar l トヨタ\|NEVER QUIT

04-10-2008, 01:34 PM	#13 (permalink)
stormin94 Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lake County, CA/Sacramento Posts: 3,535	I think I have a thread of an XM satellite radio install. I routed my antenna through the 3rd brake light, and I have a pic from the inside with the wiper motor. I'll look. __________________ 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4X4 213,000 miles and counting 3.0 V6, 5 speed 10/15 MPG city/hwy(with 33's) Current Mods Headers, 2.5" Flowmaster custom exhaust, K&N FIPK KC Daylighter 100 Watt lights Ranchos x4, 2" Lift Downey coils 33-12.50 M/T's, 1" t-bar lift, 1" body lift Tow pkg w/ lighthookups Silverstar Headlights, Pioneer Deck w/XM Brushguard 250Watt JLAudio 8" W3 Sub Future Mods 12V Aux outlet-400/800peak inverter roof basket/lights Air locker 4.88 gears H.O. Alternator

04-10-2008, 02:15 PM	#14 (permalink)
stormin94 Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lake County, CA/Sacramento Posts: 3,535	Here's my thread. It's not quite what you are doing, but I did remove the 3rd brake light, and there are some decent pics of that area, and it shows how it is mounted. http://www.yotatech.com/f123/beyond-...arning-139807/ __________________ 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4X4 213,000 miles and counting 3.0 V6, 5 speed 10/15 MPG city/hwy(with 33's) Current Mods Headers, 2.5" Flowmaster custom exhaust, K&N FIPK KC Daylighter 100 Watt lights Ranchos x4, 2" Lift Downey coils 33-12.50 M/T's, 1" t-bar lift, 1" body lift Tow pkg w/ lighthookups Silverstar Headlights, Pioneer Deck w/XM Brushguard 250Watt JLAudio 8" W3 Sub Future Mods 12V Aux outlet-400/800peak inverter roof basket/lights Air locker 4.88 gears H.O. Alternator

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