HELP!!! what am i doing wrong?!
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HELP!!! what am i doing wrong?!
ok yesterday i pulled the axles outt the rear so that i could re-install the 3rd member after breaking one of the studs. in the process the brake hard lines that go to the slaves in the rear dripped. it ended up draining the MC resivore. bleed the breaks last ngiht, drove it around the block, had NO brakes. this morning got up bleed the brakes 2 more times with out any luck. then bleed the MC by unscrewing the hard lines coming out and using a clear tube ciriculated the fluid back into the resivore until most the bubbles stopped. bleed the brakes 3-4 more times and i still have no brakes. i have gone through 3 BIG bottles of brake fluid and have a kitty litter pan full of dead fluid. i'm bleeding the breaks from the rear pass -> rear diver -> front pass -> front driver order. i dont know what i am doing wrong but i;m getting real pissed that i can get these brakes work. i am suppose to go wheelin tomorrow but its looking like i cant unless i figure out what the hell is wrong.
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i went out and bought speed bleeders. then clear tube into a beer bottle with fluid. pump till no more bubbles.
i dont have anyone helping me... and its a PITRFA to do this alone.
i dont have anyone helping me... and its a PITRFA to do this alone.
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i used that method to, but had to have the wife pump the pedal any way. this is a pita way but pump the pedal and then put a stick or something to keep the pedal down and bleed it till you get some pressure. i hate bleeding systems. i think you are supposed to start at the drivers side
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Btw, there's no way to bleed brakes by yourself unless you're using a pressure bleeder. Get your Mom or some kid to help.
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ok yesterday i pulled the axles outt the rear so that i could re-install the 3rd member after breaking one of the studs. in the process the brake hard lines that go to the slaves in the rear dripped. it ended up draining the MC resivore. bleed the breaks last ngiht, drove it around the block, had NO brakes. this morning got up bleed the brakes 2 more times with out any luck. then bleed the MC by unscrewing the hard lines coming out and using a clear tube ciriculated the fluid back into the resivore until most the bubbles stopped. bleed the brakes 3-4 more times and i still have no brakes. i have gone through 3 BIG bottles of brake fluid and have a kitty litter pan full of dead fluid. i'm bleeding the breaks from the rear pass -> rear diver -> front pass -> front driver order. i dont know what i am doing wrong but i;m getting real pissed that i can get these brakes work. i am suppose to go wheelin tomorrow but its looking like i cant unless i figure out what the hell is wrong.
You have the bleeding order wrong, if memory serves me.
Should be:
- Drivers rear
- Passenger rear
- Passenger front
- Drives front
And, you're forgetting
- LSPV
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LSPV when byebye when i did the leaf swap. but i think i got it now., i had my mo...err Roommate came home and we were able to do the 2 person bleeding way. did the MC, the ABS block thingy, and then all the slaves. seems to work fine now. its not 100% were it used to be but its 99.9% and safe enough for me to go wheelin
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Well I wouldn't recommend it in this case. BUT, you can safely bleed your brakes by yourself with no special tools. Gravity, need I say more?
Crack the bleeder, walk away, return after 15 min, close bleeder, refill res. Repeat as needed.
Not sure how well this method works for removing air from the system. If done correctly it doesn't introduce air into the system,(which speed bleeders are notorious for, go figure ). I just did it 2 days ago when I flushed mine.
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Try using one of these or similiar:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=92474
I have found if to much air is in the lines it can be hard to start the fluid pumping. A vacuum pump like that will pull the fluid through and let fluid pressure build... allowing you to get all the air out.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=92474
I have found if to much air is in the lines it can be hard to start the fluid pumping. A vacuum pump like that will pull the fluid through and let fluid pressure build... allowing you to get all the air out.
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Try using one of these or similiar:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=92474
I have found if to much air is in the lines it can be hard to start the fluid pumping. A vacuum pump like that will pull the fluid through and let fluid pressure build... allowing you to get all the air out.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=92474
I have found if to much air is in the lines it can be hard to start the fluid pumping. A vacuum pump like that will pull the fluid through and let fluid pressure build... allowing you to get all the air out.
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Bleeding Brakes
Use the helper technique , gotta bleed each cylinder under pressure and the best way except pressure bleeding (if you know how to regulate pressure) is the old fashioned 3 pumps and hold and you get to run around the truck till you get fresh fluid and no air from each cylinder and then when your done your helpers leg is toasted hehe .
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Well I wouldn't recommend it in this case. BUT, you can safely bleed your brakes by yourself with no special tools. Gravity, need I say more?
Crack the bleeder, walk away, return after 15 min, close bleeder, refill res. Repeat as needed.
Not sure how well this method works for removing air from the system. If done correctly it doesn't introduce air into the system,(which speed bleeders are notorious for, go figure ). I just did it 2 days ago when I flushed mine.
Crack the bleeder, walk away, return after 15 min, close bleeder, refill res. Repeat as needed.
Not sure how well this method works for removing air from the system. If done correctly it doesn't introduce air into the system,(which speed bleeders are notorious for, go figure ). I just did it 2 days ago when I flushed mine.
I'm sure if done correctly it would be fine, but it just isn't my bag.
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wen you bleed ur brakes make sure you do not take your foot of the brake pedal and make sure u pump ur brakes until the pedal is hard to push . this is how me and my dad did it.
all i had was a bottle of brake fluid a bottle and a 10 mm ring spanner.
pump brakes till hard,
crack bleeder bolt thing,
wait till oil stops runing,
tighten bolt back up,
pump brakes again til hard,
lossen bleeder bolt til oil stop dripping then tighten,
keep doing it until the brakes feel good make sure you top your brake oil up to
And make sure you do not take ur foot of the brake pedal or you will suck air up the brake lines again. I lernt from experiance trust me lol.
do it on every brake drum or what ever you have.
hope this helps yous?
all i had was a bottle of brake fluid a bottle and a 10 mm ring spanner.
pump brakes till hard,
crack bleeder bolt thing,
wait till oil stops runing,
tighten bolt back up,
pump brakes again til hard,
lossen bleeder bolt til oil stop dripping then tighten,
keep doing it until the brakes feel good make sure you top your brake oil up to
And make sure you do not take ur foot of the brake pedal or you will suck air up the brake lines again. I lernt from experiance trust me lol.
do it on every brake drum or what ever you have.
hope this helps yous?
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I use the mighty vac hand pump and it works great for me I take off the bleeder valve put some pipe tape on it thread it back on then pump it until the fluid is clear making sure that the reservoir is full at all times.
same for the clutch slave cylinder.
same for the clutch slave cylinder.