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Help! I made a mistake and took out the distributor without marking anything!

Old 07-16-2009, 05:15 PM
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Help! I made a mistake and took out the distributor without marking anything!

I took out the distributor on a 22r without thinking, and did not mark anything, now I can't get it running, what should i do???

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Old 07-16-2009, 05:23 PM
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put the engine to TDC (top dead center), point the rotor to the number one plug wire and reinstall.
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how do I put the engine to top dead center?
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By putting a 19mm socker and breaker bar onto the crank nut, and manually rotating the motor.
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Isn't there some marks on the pulley I have to line up or something?
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It's ok never mind I figured it out thanks
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On the pulley is the timing marks. Line up the notch on the pulley with 0 on the pointer on the valve cover. Take the cap off the distributor and point the rotor straight up and insert it in the hole. The rotor will rotate counter-clockwise to about 10:30-11:00 position. Adjust the distributor to about 1/2 way in the slot the hold-down bolt goes in.
Put the cap back on and try to start. If it won't start, rotate the engine back to 0, remove the distributor and rotate the rotor 180 degrees and re-install.

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rotate the engine so the timing mark on the pulley lines up with 0.
remove the valve cover and make sure both valves on #1 cylinder are loose.
put rotor on distributor at 12:00 and install distributor.
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how about on the 3.0? i just got everything back together after a top end rebuild and it turns on but wont start. im kinda thinking i didnt install the dist right...i set it at tdc and then lined up the marks on the cams and crank and then lined up the distributor and i thought it was right. any advice? anything else to check? thanks in advance
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Make sure its on the compression stroke you can check this by pulling the number 1 plug and putting your finger over (not in) the hole and turning the motor by hand untill you feel air coming out, then just line up the timing marks on 0 and point the rotor towards the number cylinder on the cap and drop in the distributor.
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Originally Posted by Jay351
By putting a 19mm socker and breaker bar onto the crank nut, and manually rotating the motor.
All 3 of my 22res have needed a 3/4" socket to rotate the crank. Maybe the 19mm is a 3vze thing?
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Originally Posted by toyota4x4907
All 3 of my 22res have needed a 3/4" socket to rotate the crank. Maybe the 19mm is a 3vze thing?
It should be 19mm metric on a 22re. There shouldnt be any standard bolts on a toyota.
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Yeah I'm pretty sure it was on the compression stroke. I just tested to see if its getting spark and there's nothin. Even if it wasn't lined up it should still get spark. Any suggestions?
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3/4" = 19mm I used both when I did the timing chain on my 22re
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Originally Posted by mrddk92
Yeah I'm pretty sure it was on the compression stroke. I just tested to see if its getting spark and there's nothin. Even if it wasn't lined up it should still get spark. Any suggestions?
Are you getting no spark from the distributor or from the coil?
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I think its both. I had to call it quits for the night but tomorrow after work ima get a new timing belt beacause I may have stretched the one I had when tightening the cam bolts, and its seemed to be like a quarter of a tooth off also. And I know when I did the t-belt before everything lined up perfect... so if there is no spark from the coil what should I check?
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You stretched a timing belt simply by tightening things?
That's not likely since they run for like a long time, tens-of-thousands of miles pulling on the camshafts and such and it takes years for them to stretch enough to make a difference ... and even then replacing them is due mostly from the contamination by engine oil and the rubber on the belt causes the rubber to deteriorate ... and ... and ....
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Originally Posted by Jay351
3/4" = 19mm I used both when I did the timing chain on my 22re
Heh. After I said that I realized that 3/4 probably is about the same as 19mm...
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yeah i guess ur right but i just cant figure out why things arent perfectly lining up. like when i have the crank lined up with 0 and the cams with the marks and turn it 2 revolutions the crank will be like at 1 or 2 btdc when the cams are right on. so i wonder if it could be a relay or something. idk
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If you dont have any spark from the coil ohm check the coil and if that test ok then make sure you are getting power to the coil.
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Originally Posted by mrddk92
yeah i guess ur right but i just cant figure out why things arent perfectly lining up. like when i have the crank lined up with 0 and the cams with the marks and turn it 2 revolutions the crank will be like at 1 or 2 btdc when the cams are right on.
did you have the heads or block surfaced? If you did and didn't increase the headgasket thickness, you can throw the timing off a little bit, since you are essentially moving the cams closer to the crank. this is why some of the Toyota engine had more than one hole in the cam sprocket as well as the camshaft to accommodate these changes in rebuilds.

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