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eighty5yota · 05-30-2008, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by zlathim

Extra spit on those hamburgers please....

seriously though.. dont with people who handle\prepare or serve your food. there are some really messed up people and if you happen to catch them on the wrong day or something.. you could end up with a few xacto blades in your burger..
ive read about stuff like that..

save the burnouts for the ford dealership

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**aviator** · 05-30-2008, 08:23 AM

Doing burn-outs and the like any place but a race track or drag strip around here is called "stunting" or "street racing" and will net you an automatic 7 day licence suspension, road side siezure of your car for 7 days and up to $10,000.00 fine [for the first offence] + a dangerous driving charge. Impound yard can charge over $300.00/day for storage x 7days + towing fee as well. That burn-out nonsence is not worth it.
Helmet and seat belt laws save lives. Idiots not buckling up is one reason why you are surrounded by armed explosive devices [airbags] when you drive a newer car these days.

Man4God · 05-30-2008, 08:50 AM

People are really strange. I like most of you guys, well all of you, but honestly...when is it going to be the case that when your number is up, your number is up? Why does anyone have to watch out for anyone else except themselves? Why does it have to be legislated?

Man4God · 05-30-2008, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by aviator

Doing burn-outs and the like any place but a race track or drag strip around here is called "stunting" or "street racing" and will net you an automatic 7 day licence suspension, road side siezure of your car for 7 days and up to $10,000.00 fine [for the first offence] + a dangerous driving charge. Impound yard can charge over $300.00/day for storage x 7days + towing fee as well. That burn-out nonsence is not worth it.
Helmet and seat belt laws save lives. Idiots not buckling up is one reason why you are surrounded by armed explosive devices [airbags] when you drive a newer car these days.

And you live in Canada. Not to start a nationality debate, but clearly Canadians think a bit different than us Americans. The fact that doing a burn out can get you in that kind of trouble is simply amazing. Why can't people just leave the guy alone? If he wants to be an idiot on his own, go for it! The most he should be charged with is vandalism, nothing more.

And airbags can kill you just as much as save you. Look it up. Seatbelts are a great thing and should always be used...but not mandated. Let the gene pool be cleansed...if you save idiots, they breed.

Jay351 · 05-30-2008, 09:35 AM

Thats the law in his area, nothing like that where I live.... I hope! Lockers make donuts way to much fun

OSU4Runner · 05-30-2008, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TomkiRider

I was hella close to gettin the cops called today. so went to BK for lunch with some friends and hit the drive thru, the ers tell me to please pull around front to wait for my food, after like 5 mins of waiting i pulled up to the curb right outside the main doors and started squeelin the tires lol it was funny but the guy came out and said "HEY!! knock that off or ill call the cops !" so i just took my food and left. my 2 cents

Wow...what a great story....I would have smacked the crap out of you if I was the manager of that store

1989toy4wd · 05-30-2008, 10:12 AM

I agree about everything except the air bags! My sister would not be here right now, if her camry didnt have air bags and if she didnt wear her seatbelt.

There is a rule in my car, it doesnt move untill everyone has a seatbelt on, in texas if you are over 18 you dont have to wear a seatbelt in the back seat, but in my car you do, I dont care if my grandmother is in the back seat, she will wear a seatbelt!

The burn out thing, let the guy have his fun, if he wants to spin his spider gears into oblivion, let him. And i doubt your making fun of him is going to make his stop anyways!!

89silverpu · 05-30-2008, 10:22 AM

I don't think this has been mentioned but if you look at a jeep when they take the doors off there is still a lip that comes up about 6 inches from the floor, this helps to keep stuff from rolling out when driving, as long as you have something to keep stuff from flying out you should normally be ok. And cops normally don't bother vehicles for this stuff, they prefer to go after the rice rockets with their illegal engine modifications and stuff that does not meet C.A.R.B. specifications in CA.

Red_Chili · 05-30-2008, 11:35 AM

Yes, Jeeps have tubs to prevent articles from rolling out of the vehicle, we don't. My half doors are cut from original doors, retain the window frame, and may be closed with soft windows. Not that that makes them legal, or illegal.

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Originally Posted by abecedarian

You got lucky.

In particular reference
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/FMVSS/
and
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regul...ection_toc=777
Check sections 206 and 214 in particular and 201 to a lesser extent.
You could very well be cited for modifying your doors and would, in court, have to justify your modifications based on FMVSS statutes in effect either at the time of manufacture/first sale or at time of modification, whichever is the most restrictive of the two.

AFAIK those are standards applied to manufacturers of autos and trucks. You won't be ticketed for them. With local/state laws, YMMV. No hassles in Colorado.

85toy · 05-30-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 86tuning

No.

Helmets and seatbelts are important.

Doors are important too. Think of how many hand/arm injuries there are on 'wheelers that flop or roll over when peoples arms aren't kept inside the structure... and that's at LOW speeds. What happens if you get t-boned at an intersection where the other vehicle is going HIGH speed and you tumble around a few times?

I always think of things from a racecar perspective. Safety netting on windows are to keep your arms inside. Harnesses are to keep you in your seat. Roll bar or cage to keep your roof from squishing you. If it works at 200mph, it will work at 70 on the freeway.

Now, you wanna go 'wheel with tube doors or 1/2 doors or no doors? Go ahead. You're not doing 70 on the highway and the chances of a high speed impact with another vehicle are smaller. But tuck your arms to your chest if you're flopping. And wear your seatbelt.

i agree with you about the seatbelts and helmets because they acually help save lives but how is a toyota door going to do anything to save your life its like a milimeter of metal that will just crush you if it got hit. although if i took my doors off i would put in tube doors just because i would feel safer.

1stgen4gunner · 05-30-2008, 01:27 PM

You guys need to chill and stop calling the poor dude out on squeeling of the tires, I do it around corners all the time, its not imature, maybe its just fun, leave the dude alone, If he gets hurt or pulled over thats his problem not yours.

qdude79 · 05-30-2008, 01:38 PM

In my opinion (not that anyone cares) the door thing doesn't add up. I understand seatbelts in cars, I understand helmets on bikes, though I feel adults should have the choice.

Doors? I would hope a bike cop would never try to cite me for it. I'd ask to borrow the ones off his/her ride...

89silverpu · 05-30-2008, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by qdude79

In my opinion (not that anyone cares) the door thing doesn't add up. I understand seatbelts in cars, I understand helmets on bikes, though I feel adults should have the choice.

Doors? I would hope a bike cop would never try to cite me for it. I'd ask to borrow the ones off his/her ride...

hahaha I love it

Brenjen · 05-30-2008, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by T-1000

Last weekend I got pulled over (first time) for doing 84 in a 55. I have to go to court.

It sucks because it was my first time to ever be pulled over and I'm getting this huge penalty and hassle (I have to appear in court, they're gonna take 6 out of 12 points off my license, etc) and I have a friend who's been pulled over 4 times , once going 105 in a 65, and he's never even had a fine.

That cop must have just been pissed at me for some reason.

BTW, I was going downhill and I didn't want to go crazy on the brakes. We're talking mountain grades here.

Check your local laws, some states (most) allow for a certain % of speed increase on grades over a certain % & a lot of Judges will let you off if you respectfully put up a knowledgeable defense & don't just argue how it's all BS & the man is out to get you.

Hope that helps.

X-AWDriver · 05-30-2008, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 85toy

i agree with you about the seatbelts and helmets because they acually help save lives but how is a toyota door going to do anything to save your life its like a milimeter of metal that will just crush you if it got hit.

That millimeter of metal will prevent things from entering the cab and keep your arms in in the event of a rollover and it is better than having no doors period but if an adult wants to drive that way I don't have a problem with it.

Man4God · 05-30-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by X-AWDriver

That millimeter of metal will prevent things from entering the cab and keep your arms in in the event of a rollover and it is better than having no doors period but if an adult wants to drive that way I don't have a problem with it.

But the problem is that we are the US of A's children.

They don't view us as adults who can take care of themselves. We have been babied the past 35 years and quite frankly, I am sick of it. God gave me the ability to make decisions and He also taught me that I must be responsible for the decisions I do make. More over, there is nothing more fundamentally American than being responsible for one's own actions.

ozziesironmanoffroad · 05-30-2008, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Brenjen

Check your local laws, some states (most) allow for a certain % of speed increase on grades over a certain % & a lot of Judges will let you off if you respectfully put up a knowledgeable defense & don't just argue how it's all BS & the man is out to get you.

Hope that helps.

but, the man IS out to get you! im sorry but im very suspicious about the gov't.

Whitey13 · 05-30-2008, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by T-1000

Last weekend I got pulled over for doing 84 in a 55. I have to go to court.

That cop must have just been pissed at me for some reason.

I think you made it easy for him.

NicCantDecide · 05-30-2008, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by X-AWDriver

That millimeter of metal will prevent things from entering the cab and keep your arms in in the event of a rollover and it is better than having no doors period but if an adult wants to drive that way I don't have a problem with it.

Not to mention most doors have a steel tube going through them to protect the people inside from getting crushed by oncoming cars. Its the same concept as a rollbar but for the doors.

TomkiRider · 05-30-2008, 04:40 PM

why the hell do u guys care bout what i do?

Man4God · 05-30-2008, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NicCantDecide

Not to mention most doors have a steel tube going through them to protect the people inside from getting crushed by oncoming cars. Its the same concept as a rollbar but for the doors.

This is untrue. I have never seen a factory door have steel tubing running through it. Ever replace a window regulator?

just a 22re · 05-30-2008, 07:16 PM

wow what did i start here????? ok i was just saying that i got pulled over and he said you might wanna get doors on this thing so i opened it and showed him the vin number on it and he said ok as for the dude doing a burnout nice!!!! jusrtkeep it on dead streets like here out in the country but yeah be carefull with doing them i used to key word used to drift my rig its all fun and gravy untill yiu drop your rear drive shaft and have to be front wheel drive for 2 months lol

Brenjen · 05-31-2008, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ozziesironmanoffroad

but, the man IS out to get you! im sorry but im very suspicious about the gov't.

Well that's neither here nor there; frankly I think the gubmint oversteps her bounds on a regular basis, but that's not the point I was making. I was trying to steer the person into researching their local laws on the matter & possibly getting off & keeping their record clean. Granted 80+ in a 55 zone might be a tough one but it's a shot. The law usually grants something like a 10% increase in speed for gradients of 15% or more (give or a take, I'm no lawyer).

Here on YT people seem to disregard what was said & take a word or two & pounce on them like those couple words were the point or spirit of the post. I'm not calling you out or anything Ozzie; just making an observation on the board as a whole. That's the reason I stopped coming on here as much & will probably stop completely if it happens to the degree it did to me a couple months ago in off topic.

Jonathan · 05-31-2008, 09:22 PM

To tomkirider: I could care less what you do in your free time as long as it doesn't affect other people, but doing burnouts in front of a Burger King is not only immature and completely ridiculous, but it is also dangerous. Did you ever think about the innocent pedestrians you were endangering while you were doing your awesome burnout and sticking it to the man? What if your tires had hooked up and you lost control and ran over a child? You can't predict things that are going to happen, therefore you shouldn't put yourself in a precarious situation.

To 1stgen4gunner: I'm completely calm, I am, however, concerned that you are sticking up for such behavior. It says a lot about your character.

abecedarian · 05-31-2008, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by just a 22re

wow what did i start here????? ok i was just saying that i got pulled over and he said you might wanna get doors on this thing so i opened it and showed him the vin number on it and he said ok as for the dude doing a burnout nice!!!! jusrtkeep it on dead streets like here out in the country but yeah be carefull with doing them i used to key word used to drift my rig its all fun and gravy untill yiu drop your rear drive shaft and have to be front wheel drive for 2 months lol

sorry allan.
what you started was an argument between people that don't seem to understand that these laws were made by the people that the 'majority of the people in their area' elected to represent them and make laws that affect them. they are more content to complain about the lawmakers around them than they are to go to the voting booths and get them replaced.
what can you say about a person with a name claiming to be "4god" yet only cares about their own 'personal' responsibility and doesn't care what ramifications those decisions may have on others? what ever happened to "do unto others..." godboy?
helmets are okay, maybe even seatbelts, but airbags and door don't do anything to save the passengers? Hmm... I think he summed it up perfectly by saying "if you save idiots, they breed"... maybe he should have also said "they also complain about being told what to do".

It seems no one is happy. Either safety standards are too strict or not strict enough. Helmets are okay for motorcycles, but doors suck for trucks. WTF ever. Get over yourselves and realize that these laws are in place because of the people who get elected by your votes.

05-30-2008, 08:23 AM	#27 (permalink)
aviator Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: COTKU,Ontario,Canada Posts: 7,469	Doing burn-outs and the like any place but a race track or drag strip around here is called "stunting" or "street racing" and will net you an automatic 7 day licence suspension, road side siezure of your car for 7 days and up to $10,000.00 fine [for the first offence] + a dangerous driving charge. Impound yard can charge over $300.00/day for storage x 7days + towing fee as well. That burn-out nonsence is not worth it. Helmet and seat belt laws save lives. Idiots not buckling up is one reason why you are surrounded by armed explosive devices [airbags] when you drive a newer car these days. __________________ Silver 1994 Hilux Xtra cab 4x4 3.0 K&N cone filter, ported MAF, advanced timing, oversize exhaust, free flow cat, "rumble" muffler custom covered SR5 seats, map lights, factory AC tv4184 style black interior conversion started mods to come... header, custom centre console, stereo upgrade tinted windows Founding member 1972TLC fan club - Get well soon Mary Toyota Hilux... Get in or Get out of the way. Last edited by aviator; 05-30-2008 at 08:25 AM.

05-30-2008, 08:50 AM	#28 (permalink)
Man4God Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 292	People are really strange. I like most of you guys, well all of you, but honestly...when is it going to be the case that when your number is up, your number is up? Why does anyone have to watch out for anyone else except themselves? Why does it have to be legislated? __________________ '97 4Runner Limited 4x4 w/Locker Grey (Red & Blue) Wire Mod 2Lo Mod Tundra DC Non-TRD front with stock Tundra Tokicos (2.5") Downey 3" rear lift with Monroe Reflex Shocks (Thanks Chaplain!) Soldier for Christ.

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1989toy4wd Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Beaumont, Tx Posts: 949	I agree about everything except the air bags! My sister would not be here right now, if her camry didnt have air bags and if she didnt wear her seatbelt. There is a rule in my car, it doesnt move untill everyone has a seatbelt on, in texas if you are over 18 you dont have to wear a seatbelt in the back seat, but in my car you do, I dont care if my grandmother is in the back seat, she will wear a seatbelt! The burn out thing, let the guy have his fun, if he wants to spin his spider gears into oblivion, let him. And i doubt your making fun of him is going to make his stop anyways!! __________________ -Colton- 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX, 22RE, 5-spd, 5-in SAS, Detroit back, ARB front, longs, 37/13R15 Boggers, Marlin front and rear bumpers, Marlin sliders, Ramsey Patriot 9500 winch with synthetic line, Hi-angle D/S F&R, diff breathers, rebuilt tranny, 22RE bored .20 over completely rebuilt (it feels great to not have to buy 2 cases of oil a month!!), whole truck built in memory of my dad (RIP 6-26-08) Daily driver & tow vehicle: 02 Dodge 2500 Diesel, 5-speed, 4wd, quad cab, longbed, 128k miles

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89silverpu Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vacaville/Sierra Nevada Mountains, CA/ UNLV (Las Vegas), NV Posts: 1,689	I don't think this has been mentioned but if you look at a jeep when they take the doors off there is still a lip that comes up about 6 inches from the floor, this helps to keep stuff from rolling out when driving, as long as you have something to keep stuff from flying out you should normally be ok. And cops normally don't bother vehicles for this stuff, they prefer to go after the rice rockets with their illegal engine modifications and stuff that does not meet C.A.R.B. specifications in CA. __________________ '89 Beater Jeep Eater in progress 4.88's, TRD e-locker, Dual Cases, 33's, Armored, Tread Lightly Mixchallenge.info

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1stgen4gunner Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 630	You guys need to chill and stop calling the poor dude out on squeeling of the tires, I do it around corners all the time, its not imature, maybe its just fun, leave the dude alone, If he gets hurt or pulled over thats his problem not yours. __________________ -Dave "It is possible to store the mind with a million facts and still be entirely uneducated." Sorry Guys but I am trying chevy for a while, Current Rig- 2000 Chevy S10 ZR2, but I am sure I'll be back! 1990 Deluxe Extended Cab 22RE 5spd, Roll Bar, KC Lites, Flowmaster 50 series- SOLD 1988 4Runner SR5 3.0 3VZE Auto, 31" BFG A/T KO, Bushwhackers, 205,000 miles- SOLD and was driven 4500 miles to Anchorage AK 2003 KTM SX125

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qdude79 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: CenCal Posts: 466	In my opinion (not that anyone cares) the door thing doesn't add up. I understand seatbelts in cars, I understand helmets on bikes, though I feel adults should have the choice. Doors? I would hope a bike cop would never try to cite me for it. I'd ask to borrow the ones off his/her ride... __________________ 1990 4Runner SR5, 22RE (Engnbldr 268 Street RV Head)/Auto/2wd/AC/CC/Power Everything (no sunroof) 31x10.50/15 ATs. 2.25" exhaust from the manifold, K&N drop in, Delta Flow 50 Series, 400 rms watts of Fosgate highs, and (2) Kicker 12" DCVR's in a ported box with 800 rms watts of Phoenix Gold power. Sirius Satellite, HD radio with iPhone 3G Bluetooth. Billet grille with 5% tint from passenger back (love it!). 2nd Gen JDM altimeter and cargo cover soon to be added...

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05-31-2008, 09:22 PM	#49 (permalink)
Jonathan Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Greenville, South Carolina Posts: 1,743	To tomkirider: I could care less what you do in your free time as long as it doesn't affect other people, but doing burnouts in front of a Burger King is not only immature and completely ridiculous, but it is also dangerous. Did you ever think about the innocent pedestrians you were endangering while you were doing your awesome burnout and sticking it to the man? What if your tires had hooked up and you lost control and ran over a child? You can't predict things that are going to happen, therefore you shouldn't put yourself in a precarious situation. To 1stgen4gunner: I'm completely calm, I am, however, concerned that you are sticking up for such behavior. It says a lot about your character. __________________ 1996 Black 4Runner V6 5 speed 4X4\| Retrofitted E-Locker\| SAW's\| LC coils and Doetschtech shocks\| ATS arms \| 285 Goodyear MTR's\|TJM T-15 With Warn M8000\|Retrofitted Toyota Hood Scoop\| Stubbs Sliders\|Bushwacker Extend-A-Fender Flares\| Extended rear diff breather\| Uniden 510XL CB w/ 4 Ft. Firestik II Antenna\|Dynomax Super Turbo Muffler\|Black headlights and corners\| More to come... 2007 VW GTI 6 Speed

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