Notices
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners 2nd/3rd gen pickups, and 1st/2nd gen 4Runners with IFS

fuel tank removal

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-07-2011, 03:32 PM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Runner491's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
fuel tank removal

Hello all,
I know this sounds like a horrible thread, but i have a genuine problem here. My fuel pump went out two days ago (yippie!) so i am removing the fuel tank shield and what do ya know? whoever had the fuel tank out last sheared off all the bolts that hold the tank on and then proceeded to WELD, yes weld, the tank back on to the mounting points. All i want to know is how would someone go about removing the tank without damaging it or having a nice explosion in their garage? i have a sawzall, but that would mess the tank up, i have a friend with a torch (but i really dont have the balls to attempt that). I was thinking about just getting a nice large walbro fuel pump and putting it outside the fuel tank. any advice would be extremly helpful, because i am at a loss has to why someone would weld a gas tank on.

Jon H.
Old 01-07-2011, 04:28 PM
  #2  
Registered User
 
shaeff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Hudson Valley, NY
Posts: 912
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Spot weld drill, maybe? Have any pics of how it was welded in place? That's crazy!

Edit: What are you dropping the tank for? In all honesty, I personally think it's better to remove the bed. That way you can repaint the frame and really inspect it for problems. Pulling the bed is easy, too, providing that the bed bolts aren't on their last legs. You can lift it off with just two average size people.

Last edited by shaeff; 01-07-2011 at 04:30 PM.
Old 01-07-2011, 04:44 PM
  #3  
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
flg8r22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: N of Okechobee Florida
Posts: 1,002
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
+1 might just be easier to remove the bed for a short term solution?
Old 01-07-2011, 04:50 PM
  #4  
Registered User
 
some drunk guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Santa Rosa,CA
Posts: 131
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Drain the gas, fill the tank back up with water, to prevent a bomb from going off Grind the welds and drop the tank, drain the tank, install the new pump. refill. Thats what I would do.
Old 01-07-2011, 05:16 PM
  #5  
RMA
Contributing Member
 
RMA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: San Jose ,Ca
Posts: 2,505
Received 16 Likes on 16 Posts
Originally Posted by shaeff
Spot weld drill, maybe? Have any pics of how it was welded in place? That's crazy!

Edit: What are you dropping the tank for? In all honesty, I personally think it's better to remove the bed. That way you can repaint the frame and really inspect it for problems. Pulling the bed is easy, too, providing that the bed bolts aren't on their last legs. You can lift it off with just two average size people.
Originally Posted by flg8r22
+1 might just be easier to remove the bed for a short term solution?
by his username i think he has a 4runner maybe ..

but yea how about bsome pics of the welds .. just drill them or grind them ..

filling it with water would be playing it super safe , but not really sure you need to do that .
Old 01-07-2011, 05:30 PM
  #6  
Registered User
 
scuba's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 11,338
Received 120 Likes on 59 Posts
Isn't there a fuel pump access plate on the inside of the 4Runners?


Old 01-07-2011, 05:39 PM
  #7  
Registered User
 
quiggs12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 156
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by some drunk guy
drain the gas, fill the tank back up with water, to prevent a bomb from going off grind the welds and drop the tank, drain the tank, install the new pump. Refill. Thats what i would do.

agree!
Old 01-07-2011, 05:43 PM
  #8  
Registered User
 
rattlewagon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Northfield, Vermont
Posts: 4,735
Received 301 Likes on 207 Posts
scuba- no access hole on pickups.

If your tanks welded on.. and your bed bolts arnt to rusty...Id go with the take bed off route.
Old 01-07-2011, 05:49 PM
  #9  
Registered User
 
scuba's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 11,338
Received 120 Likes on 59 Posts
Originally Posted by RE-RE
scuba- no access hole on pickups.

If your tanks welded on.. and your bed bolts arnt to rusty...Id go with the take bed off route.
I know this but.....

Originally Posted by scuba
Isn't there a fuel pump access plate on the inside of the 4Runners?






Old 01-07-2011, 05:59 PM
  #10  
Registered User
 
rattlewagon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Northfield, Vermont
Posts: 4,735
Received 301 Likes on 207 Posts
Sorry, Im retarded. Yes, there is one on runners.

So...what he should do, is find a 4runner body, swap it over then remove the bad pump through the access panel. Problem solved.

EDIT: Just re-read through the thread, I assumed he had a truck...I hope he does have a 4runner. Would make this much easier. Wouldant have to do the body swap. Haha.

Last edited by rattlewagon; 01-07-2011 at 06:03 PM.
Old 01-07-2011, 06:39 PM
  #11  
Registered User
 
scuba's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 11,338
Received 120 Likes on 59 Posts
You guys are killing me.





Old 01-07-2011, 06:52 PM
  #12  
Registered User
 
rattlewagon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Northfield, Vermont
Posts: 4,735
Received 301 Likes on 207 Posts
Originally Posted by RE-RE
Sorry, Im retarded.


I hope runner491 check this thread again before he cuts the tank out and sees the access panel from the back side.

Last edited by rattlewagon; 01-07-2011 at 06:55 PM.
Old 01-07-2011, 06:52 PM
  #13  
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
flg8r22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: N of Okechobee Florida
Posts: 1,002
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
yea, im not so bright!
Old 01-07-2011, 06:58 PM
  #14  
RMA
Contributing Member
 
RMA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: San Jose ,Ca
Posts: 2,505
Received 16 Likes on 16 Posts
Originally Posted by RE-RE


I hope runner491 check this thread again before he cuts the tank out and sees the access panel from the back side.
the access panel is only for the hose and wire connector .. not big enough or in the right spot for the pump.

not like the first gens
Old 01-07-2011, 10:40 PM
  #15  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Runner491's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by scuba
You guys are killing me.





Ha!
Ya I found the access plate, and like noted above, way to small and not in the correct position. I am not use to dropping the tank for pump replacements ( I am an old school BMW/ Volkswagen guy, this is my first Japanese vehicle ever!) I would post some pictures if I had a camera. I think I will try the drill option first, if that fails I'll just wing it and grab the Milwaukee and saw it out. Thanks for helping out a noob guys (at least a Toyota noob, those old German cars are cranky maintenance whores)
Jon H.

Last edited by dropzone; 01-07-2011 at 11:11 PM. Reason: bypassin the censor
Old 01-07-2011, 10:45 PM
  #16  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Runner491's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
And there are 4 welds, the two in the rear of the tank are about 2" long and the front ones he just made fat tack spots where the bolts go. I bet this guy could burn a pot of water
Old 01-08-2011, 12:57 AM
  #17  
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
wyoming9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: I live in New Tripoli Pa out in the woods
Posts: 13,381
Received 99 Likes on 86 Posts
Red face

It would be great to see pictures.

It takes all kinds me I would cut a hole in the floor big enough to get the sucker out then replace it with a access plate for the future.

Do yourself a favor go to Harbor Freight buy one of the cheap grinders and some cut off zip discs make the job much easier then a saws all
Old 01-08-2011, 06:12 AM
  #18  
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
skypilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Peekskill, NY
Posts: 1,151
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
WoW! What a blast!

I would cut a hole in the floor first. then make a cover plate up and screw down with some self tapping screws.

Grinders & vaporized gasoline is just he ticket for a heavenly trip.
Old 01-08-2011, 11:56 AM
  #19  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Runner491's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Alright, so i started work on it around 9am (neighbors were thrilled to hear my compressor fire up ) instead of cutting the tank off i just buzzed a hole underneath the seat big enough to get the fuel pump out. removed the old pump and tried to test it, ran 12v power directly to it, it actually just got really hot! DANGEROUS! slapped the new one in there, put the assembly back in the tank, siliconed the daylights out of the hole i made in the floor and bam! i have a running runner again! yay thanks for the tips guys. I do not know why toyota did not put a panel there in the first place, would be so much easier to replace the pump.
Old 01-09-2011, 01:26 AM
  #20  
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
wyoming9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: I live in New Tripoli Pa out in the woods
Posts: 13,381
Received 99 Likes on 86 Posts
Red face

I guess some people are just to dumb to be scared of fire and explosions..I get scared driving in New Jersey

Glad you got it up and running.

In my book a lot easier then dropping the tank
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Eggslinger
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
22
06-08-2019 03:32 PM
Doug4320
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
19
03-24-2018 10:11 PM
skoti89
General Vehicle Related Topics (Non Year Related)
4
09-11-2015 07:46 AM
pyramid
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
10
07-30-2015 10:05 AM
TURBOrunnerNM
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
4
07-22-2015 11:01 AM



Quick Reply: fuel tank removal



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:06 PM.