Engine swap
01-08-2016, 07:35 AM
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Engine swap
So I have a 1992 Toyota pickup. It's a manual with the 22-RE engine and 4WD. It's 100% stock and I've been wanting to do an engine swap because it's burning oil and it's very underpowered too. The engine I was wanting to swap is either a 351 Windsor or a 302. I was wondering if someone could tell me what all is needed to do an engine swap like that. Not sure if I want an auto or manual transmission
01-08-2016, 08:40 AM
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Well you obviously already googled this, and found nothing written about it.
Probably because no one has ever done this, and spent hours documenting it already.
Sounds simple though, just buy a v8, unplug the 22re, and plug in the v8.
If you're not sure about trans, just get both. They plug right in too.
What are you waiting for, get started.
Probably because no one has ever done this, and spent hours documenting it already.
Sounds simple though, just buy a v8, unplug the 22re, and plug in the v8.
If you're not sure about trans, just get both. They plug right in too.
What are you waiting for, get started.
01-08-2016, 11:16 AM
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I think the clearer answer to your question is:
a) No one (at least those who have responded so far) have ever heard of anyone trying that, and
b) It's likely to be a very Big Darn Deal. I'm not familiar with the big engines you're suggesting, but I really doubt they could be dropped into the existing engine mounts. Or fit into the available space. They certainly wouldn't be compatible with the ECU, so you would have to replace almost everything forward of the steering wheel (including lots of the sheet metal), and almost everything from the flywheel back.
Sound like a job you're willing to tackle? You'll be the first, so document it carefully, and take lots of pictures.
a) No one (at least those who have responded so far) have ever heard of anyone trying that, and
b) It's likely to be a very Big Darn Deal. I'm not familiar with the big engines you're suggesting, but I really doubt they could be dropped into the existing engine mounts. Or fit into the available space. They certainly wouldn't be compatible with the ECU, so you would have to replace almost everything forward of the steering wheel (including lots of the sheet metal), and almost everything from the flywheel back.
Sound like a job you're willing to tackle? You'll be the first, so document it carefully, and take lots of pictures.
01-08-2016, 11:43 AM
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Buy a Ford truck and be done!!
The anti rejection drugs will cost a fortune!!
Why would you want to go with those older type engines??
Till you were finished what you would have is the Toyota Cab on a modified Ford Frame with the Ford Drive train.
If you use the Toyota differentials buy as many as you can find you will be able to change them blind folded after the first week.
Build built proof differentials then twist driveshafts like a straw.
Should be a pretty simple thing to do ( Well for me at least)
The only part that may be a challenge is merging the Toyota Cab Harness to the Ford Engine Harness since those were both Carburetor engines not a whole lot of electronics to mess with .
It has been an easy 20 years since I worked on Ford Engines that old.
The anti rejection drugs will cost a fortune!!
Why would you want to go with those older type engines??
Till you were finished what you would have is the Toyota Cab on a modified Ford Frame with the Ford Drive train.
If you use the Toyota differentials buy as many as you can find you will be able to change them blind folded after the first week.
Build built proof differentials then twist driveshafts like a straw.
Should be a pretty simple thing to do ( Well for me at least)
The only part that may be a challenge is merging the Toyota Cab Harness to the Ford Engine Harness since those were both Carburetor engines not a whole lot of electronics to mess with .
It has been an easy 20 years since I worked on Ford Engines that old.
01-12-2016, 11:00 PM
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OK, sorry to be all wise guy earlier, but ideas like this are just unreasonable to most people familiar with the vehicle. So your post tells us that you're either unfamiliar with the vehicle, or just a kook who does unreasonable things.
What you need to do since you obviously want to replace your weak engine:
1. Google it. Just search for swaps and read the discussion that has happened a zillion times already. People who asked themselves the same questions you're wondering, have already figured it out. You must absorb this knowledge so you too will understand why we think it's unreasonable to put big or small block v8s into Toyotas. (Hint: torque's effect on Ancient asian metal)
2. One you realize that your little truck would have to be rebuilt from the ground up to handle such an engine, you'll want to choose what is the better option. More efficient power to weight ratio, more compatible with existing components.
If you Google enough, you'll realize most knowledgeable Toyota modifiers swap a more efficient, newer Toyota engine. They are easily sourced, swap easily with predecessors of similar engine class, and practical in that they won't destroy the rest of the vehicle around it.
By then you may also learn that significantly more power comes at a very high price tag, and that most swaps don't really increase it that much. Which doesn't mean don't do it, it means have realistic expectations.
Or, go with Plan A and be prepared to spend a lot of time building Frankenstein, and then fixing what he breaks.
What you need to do since you obviously want to replace your weak engine:
1. Google it. Just search for swaps and read the discussion that has happened a zillion times already. People who asked themselves the same questions you're wondering, have already figured it out. You must absorb this knowledge so you too will understand why we think it's unreasonable to put big or small block v8s into Toyotas. (Hint: torque's effect on Ancient asian metal)
2. One you realize that your little truck would have to be rebuilt from the ground up to handle such an engine, you'll want to choose what is the better option. More efficient power to weight ratio, more compatible with existing components.
If you Google enough, you'll realize most knowledgeable Toyota modifiers swap a more efficient, newer Toyota engine. They are easily sourced, swap easily with predecessors of similar engine class, and practical in that they won't destroy the rest of the vehicle around it.
By then you may also learn that significantly more power comes at a very high price tag, and that most swaps don't really increase it that much. Which doesn't mean don't do it, it means have realistic expectations.
Or, go with Plan A and be prepared to spend a lot of time building Frankenstein, and then fixing what he breaks.
Last edited by tj884Rdlx; 01-12-2016 at 11:03 PM.
01-13-2016, 06:35 AM
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Advance Adapters has engine swap parts for a V8 to a Toyota. Stuff is not cheap. You will have about 2k in swap parts. I just did a 350 Chevy. not sure about the Ford swap. Good luck. I wouldnt do it again.
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