kicker72

Getting reading to do a rear bumper build and came across EMS Offroad. Does anyone here have any experience with their spindle that they use for their swing out kit? Did lots of searching but didn't find much info on it. Here is a link to the kit. http://www.emsoffroad.com/store/inde...roducts_id=181

BigBluePile

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For $100 that's not a bad kit to fab your own junk up with!

kicker72

Yeah. The price is a good deal for sure. Just wondering if anyone had any reviews on the spindle.

2DoorRunner

There was an fj40 at my work, that looks like the exact same kit he used to build his bumper. My buddies and i were admiring it, it was a solid setup.
Oh and it was supporting a 35" tire, hilift, shovel, ax, and had a jerry can mount, so im assuming he carried one of them too.

Not my rig so i dont have any pictures or anything, but from what i could tell it was solid.

dropzone

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the EMS kit is probably the most complete you will find.
Using the spindle as the hinge is pretty common. I used a rockstomper kit on mine.
That being said did a little further research and found that there had been cases of spindles failing...I would not recommend putting much more than the tire on it...

the link to a jeep forum thread showing a spindle sheered has been deactivated, but ScottyC mentioned this on Pirate:
edit: found an updated link for the Iron PIG OR kit: http://www.ironpigoffroad.com//index...products_id=74

another good kit, but a bit expensive is one from 4x4 laBS: http://www.4x4labs.com/products/rear...r-bumper-kits/
looks down towards the bottom of the website


I would like to redo my swing out to a double shear...i am running a 3/8" cable through the tire carrier just in case of failure on the highway...

kicker72

Thanks guys, for the replies.

I was defenitely worried about the spindle breaking. I'm going to be adding a tire and 2 jerry cans, so it was of concern. I did see pics on the net where it came right off at the weld. The metal has to cool slowly or it will become brittle and snap,from what I was told. Also another point of concern was that there would need to be some type of support under the swing gate so when latched there would be no up and down movement when off roading. EMS kit includes a piece for that.

I know some companies use a 1000lbs rated spindle and others use a 1750lbs rated spindle, but i'm reconsidering not using one.

I am really looking at the one by Iron Pig Offroad. If Scotty said that, they must be pretty good. This is what I almost initially ordered, but found the EMS kit and it was cheap with everything.

Birdbrain

Dont have a pic of the sleeve... but



Thanks to Jeff at badland bumpers for selling me this, the spindle has a sleeve that it slides into, so you weld the sleeve to the bumper, slide the spindle in, and just weld the very bottom of the sleeve to the spindle. That way the spindles strength is not ruined from the heat of welding.

cracker_1

I used a D44 spindle/hub assembly for my swing out tire pivot on my Bronco. No problems breaking that! Plus, I have an extra locking hub should I break one and as an added benefit, I can swing the tire out and lock it into place, without it swing all over the place or into another vehicle.

meswoleshane

Lets see some pics.

shane_neddy

Would you be able to put that EMS kit onto a stock bumper for a '95 4Runner?
If so, would it require any welding?

shane_neddy

Did you ever end up getting this? If so, how did it work out for you. I would be interested in getting one.

Birdbrain

The stock bumper is not strong enough by itself without reinforcment. Its basically sheet metal.

Yes, most modifications you would need to make it work, with metal, would need welding. If not the actual attachment to the bumper, than the manufacturing of the swingout itself.

If you want something you dont have to weld, but want it bolt on. Buy one

-Matt
www.perkinsperformance.com