EFI turbo?

Bogman · 07-11-2008, 04:30 PM

what's the horsepower difference between the turbo and non turbo pickups? I wasn't even aware that toyota made a turbo 4x4.

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Jay351 · 07-11-2008, 04:32 PM

only 2 or possibly 3 years had the 22re turbo. (I want to say 87,88 ). IIRC it had about 30 more horsepower, just shy of the 3vze.

Bogman · 07-11-2008, 04:34 PM

just looking around i found this too. I'm calling total B.S. but have a look for yourself
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/736892813.html
325 hp?

Jay351 · 07-11-2008, 04:35 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! 22re with 325 horsepower!

scuba · 07-11-2008, 04:48 PM

yeah thats b.s

IIRC,
22re=119hp
22rte=150hp
3vze= 150hp

abecedarian · 07-11-2008, 05:13 PM

from the factory, the turbo gave about 35 horsepower over naturally aspirated.
the 22R(E/TE) are strong engines though and with appropriate tweaks can be made to deliver over 1000 hp.
source: http://www.toysport.com/Technical%20...tech_notes.htm

Quote:

Advertised horsepower was 145. The factory set the boost at 5.5-6 pounds, but completely stock internals survived boosts of up to 17-22 pounds, with proper fuel injection modifications. This is a testimony to the bulletproof bottom end design. Nitro / Methanol fueled dragsters, producing in excess of 1100 HP- used the original (modified) crankshafts and TOYSPORT pistons!

scuba · 07-11-2008, 06:02 PM

Yess, exactly the article i was looking for.

Your my hero

flat4whore · 07-11-2008, 06:52 PM

abecedarian · 07-11-2008, 06:58 PM

@ flat4whore:
nice pics. where's teh intercooler?

flat4whore · 07-11-2008, 07:27 PM

negative on the intercooler, looking to put a mbc on with an intercooler and bov installed and see what kinda performance i can pick up with in the limits of the stock fuel system. its got 250k on the clock, with rebuilt motor and rebuilt t25 turbo off a nissan sr20det. its a great truck

just a 22re · 07-11-2008, 08:22 PM

the turbo for the truck he clams yes its can make 350 hp but the motor being only stock will not maybe about 300 chp thats about it but then again 300chp in a yota 4wd would be wicked!!

dcg9381 · 07-11-2008, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay351

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! 22re with 325 horsepower!

I think the advertiser means that he's got a turbo capable of supporting 325hp. It's noted that it's not installed on the truck.

Myers504 · 07-12-2008, 07:14 AM

My ass dude 325hp from a stock 22re .
i have 2 4runners ones 88 and the other is a 87.
the 88 has 3.0liter v6
and the other 87 has 4banger. theres no way that my 87 has more hp than my 88.
my 88 has 350hp because i put special mod's on it,with half a block.
-myers504

cosmo · 07-12-2008, 09:11 AM

The Toysport article pretty much sums it up...

A safe figure is 135-140 actual hp, not really much of a gain due to the limitations of the CT20. I would lean towards 135 for the very rare '84-85 examples, with about 140 for the '86-87 units, with about 173 lb-ft. of torque across the board.

Just remember to ALWAYS idle down for about 2-3 mins. if you ever get a stock turbo truck. Bearing failure is an all too common problem with the CT20, and is unavoidable at about 60-85k miles if this practice is not adhered to on a regular basis.

Myers504 · 07-12-2008, 05:49 PM

thas true cosmo
but my buddy has a 22re turbo and its runs fine and he take it through the mud alot more than often.
but in the case of that what you said being true it is. i just looked it up.

Jay351 · 07-12-2008, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcg9381

I think the advertiser means that he's got a turbo capable of supporting 325hp. It's noted that it's not installed on the truck.

He should go back to school for english classes then. I wouldn't buy the truck from him.

nix4x4 · 07-12-2008, 06:56 PM

What would be really cool is a 22rte with intake/exhaust/cam mods throw a HD clutch at it and you're making more ponies than a 3 liter out of a more
reliable, simpler engine and probably better fuel economy

abecedarian · 07-12-2008, 08:56 PM

all you have to do is bump a 22rte up to 12-15 psi boost to get more power than a 3.0 and approach that a 3.4. you won't need engine mods for that, just some more fuel at the right time

Jay351 · 07-12-2008, 09:32 PM

If you manage to get a 22rte up to that kind of power, it won't be as reliable and won't have the best mpg's anymore... You can't have it all.

abecedarian · 07-12-2008, 09:38 PM

mpg's are directly related to the pressure exerted by the right foot on the pedal.

dcg9381 · 07-13-2008, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abecedarian

all you have to do is bump a 22rte up to 12-15 psi boost to get more power than a 3.0 and approach that a 3.4. you won't need engine mods for that, just some more fuel at the right time

Not quite that simple. Stock EFI is designed to detect and defeat (fuel cut) an overboosted condition.

You can get 300hp out of them, but anything over about 150-160 is going to require aftermarket EFI and anything over 200 is going to be expensive.

nix4x4 · 07-13-2008, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abecedarian

all you have to do is bump a 22rte up to 12-15 psi boost to get more power than a 3.0 and approach that a 3.4. you won't need engine mods for that, just some more fuel at the right time

Well, thats true. But, the aforementioned engine mods
would certainly help to aid your right foot

And, as far what Jay said, that is also true. But, we're
talking about making less reliable an engine that'll do
300k miles on average. So, its all relative.

annoyingrob · 09-06-2008, 07:38 PM

There's a guy around here that runs a GT28r turbo, and Megasquirt ECU on a 22R-TE in a celica.

Makes 197whp, and around 240ft-lbs of torque.

07-11-2008, 04:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,557	only 2 or possibly 3 years had the 22re turbo. (I want to say 87,88 ). IIRC it had about 30 more horsepower, just shy of the 3vze. __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 246,000kms \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|Downey idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

07-11-2008, 04:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
Bogman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cave Creek AZ Posts: 18	just looking around i found this too. I'm calling total B.S. but have a look for yourself http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/736892813.html 325 hp? __________________ 94' FZJ80 Land Cruiser FOR SALE!

07-11-2008, 04:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,557	HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! 22re with 325 horsepower! __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 246,000kms \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|Downey idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

07-11-2008, 04:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
scuba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WHEELIN BIG BEAR Posts: 6,956	yeah thats b.s IIRC, 22re=119hp 22rte=150hp 3vze= 150hp __________________ Screw you guys I'm goin to TTORA

07-11-2008, 06:02 PM	#7 (permalink)
scuba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WHEELIN BIG BEAR Posts: 6,956	Yess, exactly the article i was looking for. Your my hero __________________ Screw you guys I'm goin to TTORA

07-11-2008, 06:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
flat4whore Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 9

07-11-2008, 07:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
flat4whore Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 9	negative on the intercooler, looking to put a mbc on with an intercooler and bov installed and see what kinda performance i can pick up with in the limits of the stock fuel system. its got 250k on the clock, with rebuilt motor and rebuilt t25 turbo off a nissan sr20det. its a great truck

07-12-2008, 07:14 AM	#13 (permalink)
Myers504 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GA Posts: 36	My ass dude 325hp from a stock 22re . i have 2 4runners ones 88 and the other is a 87. the 88 has 3.0liter v6 and the other 87 has 4banger. theres no way that my 87 has more hp than my 88. my 88 has 350hp because i put special mod's on it,with half a block. -myers504

07-12-2008, 09:11 AM	#14 (permalink)
cosmo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 70	The Toysport article pretty much sums it up... A safe figure is 135-140 actual hp, not really much of a gain due to the limitations of the CT20. I would lean towards 135 for the very rare '84-85 examples, with about 140 for the '86-87 units, with about 173 lb-ft. of torque across the board. Just remember to ALWAYS idle down for about 2-3 mins. if you ever get a stock turbo truck. Bearing failure is an all too common problem with the CT20, and is unavoidable at about 60-85k miles if this practice is not adhered to on a regular basis. __________________ '93 4WD Truck (22R-E/W56) '99 Tacoma 4WD SR5 (5VZ-FE/R150F)

07-12-2008, 05:49 PM	#15 (permalink)
Myers504 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GA Posts: 36	thas true cosmo but my buddy has a 22re turbo and its runs fine and he take it through the mud alot more than often. but in the case of that what you said being true it is. i just looked it up.

07-12-2008, 06:56 PM	#17 (permalink)
nix4x4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: I'm an Ohio boy! Posts: 1,212	What would be really cool is a 22rte with intake/exhaust/cam mods throw a HD clutch at it and you're making more ponies than a 3 liter out of a more reliable, simpler engine and probably better fuel economy __________________ 1992 Xtra Cab 3.0/5-speed Work in progress..

07-12-2008, 09:32 PM	#19 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,557	If you manage to get a 22rte up to that kind of power, it won't be as reliable and won't have the best mpg's anymore... You can't have it all. __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 246,000kms \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|Downey idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

09-06-2008, 07:38 PM	#23 (permalink)
annoyingrob Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 642	There's a guy around here that runs a GT28r turbo, and Megasquirt ECU on a 22R-TE in a celica. Makes 197whp, and around 240ft-lbs of torque.

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